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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:35 PM

If he signs Brunner then Lou has to consider what he'll give Josefson and Henrique. If Brunner gets like 3 mil then Josefson and Henrique should get more. It would be absurd to give Brunner like 3 mil per season and give known commodities like Henriqque and Josefson less.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:36 PM

People knocking Brunner for having to be setup to score, with all due respect, are crazy. All stats show that the Devils were dominant in terms of possession last year - if you watched any game during our 10 game losing streak, I guarantee you screamed at the TV, "HOW THE HELL DID WE LOSE ANOTHER GAME WHEN WE DOMINATED THEM?!?!

 

Well, our biggest issue was that, even though we had the puck all the time, no one could put the damn thing into the net. We had a load of playmakers with no one to finish. Enter Damien Brunner, a guy who can finish.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:37 PM

Detroit does not have a ton of cap space left and they have a few key players of their own to re-sign.

 

What I read from some Detroit fans was that Brunner started out playing with top players but eventually got moved down to the 3rd line, where he improved and had his best success 5-on-5. Detroit allegedly wanted to sign him to a multi-year deal to 3rd-liner money, but Brunner is looking for more than that. Detroit has wingers like Tatar who are younger and have more upside than Brunner that they can use on their 2nd line, it just doesn't make sense for them to spend the cap space on Brunner to force him into a role where they have better, cheaper options. Doesn't mean that Detroit didn't want him at all, just that they didn't want him in the role that he is asking for, a role that he can get in NJ.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:38 PM

the only reason revenues are going up is because they raise ticket prices every year.They aren't growing the game, they're just sucking more cash out of the people who already like it.


The ratings and the money NBC is paying the league for broadcasting rights unmistakeably tells you it's a lot more than that.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:41 PM

Since when does Josefson deserve a huge raise?
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:42 PM

You can't compare a 23 year old (Henrique) to a 27 year (Brunner). One is in their prime, while the other is just tapping into it. As such, the older dude is going to command more $$.

 

Anywho, look for Henrique to get nearly the exact same contract as Hagelin did with the Rags (2 years with $2.25 cap hit) - their stats are nearly identical:


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:42 PM

The broadcasting rights are pretty paltry with NBC
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:43 PM

Since when does Josefson deserve a huge raise?

 

He doesn't and neither does Henrique. Bottom line Brunner shouldn't get any more than 2 mil for 44 games and 26 points.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:56 PM

 

You can't compare a 23 year old (Henrique) to a 27 year (Brunner). One is in their prime, while the other is just tapping into it. As such, the older dude is going to command more $$.

 

Anywho, look for Henrique to get nearly the exact same contract as Hagelin did with the Rags (2 years with $2.25 cap hit) - their stats are nearly identical:

 

This is a fair assessment for Henrique, but don't you think it's possible that his agent will try to play on to the fact that the Devils lost two key forwards.  If I'm Henrique's agent, I'm using that as leverage to get more than market value, aka Hagelin. 

Henrique rep: "You need him, you can't afford to let him walk or not play."


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:00 PM

He doesn't and neither does Henrique. Bottom line Brunner shouldn't get any more than 2 mil for 44 games and 26 points.

Josefson isn't getting more than 2mil, no chance.  Not with what he has accomplished in his time here.  Look at what Fayne got.  Henrique on the other hand is a different story.  Brunner shouldn't get more than 2 mil based on his stats, your right, but I think 44 games is a small sample size plus the demand for and need to get a deal done is more imperative than for Henrique.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:04 PM

I'm not against signing Brunner, but I have strong reservations about it. I definitely think that if we sign Brunner we need to sign one more forward.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:12 PM

This is a fair assessment for Henrique, but don't you think it's possible that his agent will try to play on to the fact that the Devils lost two key forwards.  If I'm Henrique's agent, I'm using that as leverage to get more than market value, aka Hagelin. 

Henrique rep: "You need him, you can't afford to let him walk or not play."

 

Henrique is entering his prime earning years, can't afford to be throwing that away over relative pennies.  Henrique's agent has almost no leverage.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

This is a fair assessment for Henrique, but don't you think it's possible that his agent will try to play on to the fact that the Devils lost two key forwards.  If I'm Henrique's agent, I'm using that as leverage to get more than market value, aka Hagelin. 

Henrique rep: "You need him, you can't afford to let him walk or not play."

 

He can't walk, but he can sit out. Don't get me wrong, I love Henrique and think he's our future star but I don't think he has the resume to make that threat, particularly to Lou.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:31 PM

I'm not against signing Brunner, but I have strong reservations about it. I definitely think that if we sign Brunner we need to sign one more forward.

There just isn't any room if Brunner signs.

 

Elias, Zajac, Ryder, Loktionov, Henrique, Brunner, Zubrus, Clowe, Josefson, Tedenby, Olesz, Bernier, Gionta, Carter, Barch

 

Thats 15 forwards. Although I do agree if we sign Brunner I would love to add Grabovski at a lower rate than the $5+ he was making in Toronto.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:37 PM

There just isn't any room if Brunner signs.

 

Elias, Zajac, Ryder, Loktionov, Henrique, Brunner, Zubrus, Clowe, Josefson, Tedenby, Olesz, Bernier, Gionta, Carter, Barch

 

Thats 15 forwards. Although I do agree if we sign Brunner I would love to add Grabovski at a lower rate than the $5+ he was making in Toronto.

 

Barring an f'n miracle, Tedenby will be bounced back and forth from the AHL depending on injuries (much like Bobby Butler last year) and possibly lost on waivers (but honestly, who would want him at this point?!). Barch will be scratched like 80% of the season. There's plenty of room for Brunner.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:38 PM

There just isn't any room if Brunner signs.

 

Elias, Zajac, Ryder, Loktionov, Henrique, Brunner, Zubrus, Clowe, Josefson, Tedenby, Olesz, Bernier, Gionta, Carter, Barch

 

Thats 15 forwards. Although I do agree if we sign Brunner I would love to add Grabovski at a lower rate than the $5+ he was making in Toronto.

 

Grabo's good, but he's got too much baggage. Plus he's Belarussian. I don't want him bolting for the KHL.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:59 PM

Grabo's good, but he's got too much baggage. Plus he's Belarussian. I don't want him bolting for the KHL.

 

We're over-loaded with Centers and I think Grabovski showed he is very much not the type of player Lou would ever sign after his crazy post-buyout interview.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:33 AM

I think from a business standpoint he has been great for the league and they are already forecasting a billion dollars in growth next season.. That's insane People forget his job is to grow the business of the NHL. Sure theirs an emotional side to the sport/league and we all buy into it, but the NHL doesn't exist without the nitty gritty business side

This is true, but what I don't understand is why can't we have an actual hockey person to replace Bettman's role in rule changes and other things related to the actual on-ice gameplay?  Bettman is great for the business aspect, but I think it would be better if we had an actual hockey guy that is well-respected, like a Gretzky, Yzerman, or Linden type of guy to decide on rule changes and present the Stanley Cup, etc.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:13 AM

People knocking Brunner for having to be setup to score, with all due respect, are crazy. All stats show that the Devils were dominant in terms of possession last year - if you watched any game during our 10 game losing streak, I guarantee you screamed at the TV, "HOW THE HELL DID WE LOSE ANOTHER GAME WHEN WE DOMINATED THEM?!?!

 

Well, our biggest issue was that, even though we had the puck all the time, no one could put the damn thing into the net. We had a load of playmakers with no one to finish. Enter Damien Brunner, a guy who can finish.

 

So true. Brunner can score and i rather have him then hemsky.... (not that i hate hemsky but i feel brunner is a better fitand he dont have the injuries issues) i dont remember when was the last time hemsky play a full season 


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:57 AM


I think from a business standpoint he has been great for the league and they are already forecasting a billion dollars in growth next season.. That's insane People forget his job is to grow the business of the NHL. Sure theirs an emotional side to the sport/league and we all buy into it, but the NHL doesn't exist without the nitty gritty business side


This is true, but what I don't understand is why can't we have an actual hockey person to replace Bettman's role in rule changes and other things related to the actual on-ice gameplay? Bettman is great for the business aspect, but I think it would be better if we had an actual hockey guy that is well-respected, like a Gretzky, Yzerman, or Linden type of guy to decide on rule changes and present the Stanley Cup, etc.


Bettman dos not decide on rule changes. In fact he has a limited involvement in it.

The commissioner in every sport presents the championship trophy. Who cares.


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