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#61 RowdyFan42

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:02 PM

Obviously I don't know anything about local Jersey burger joints, but on the national chains:

 

- I don't get the appeal of Five Guys.  It's the very definition of "meh".  The ability to pick and choose your toppings is overshadowed by the fact that the burgers themselves are bland and uninspiring, and the fries aren't anything special.

 

- Red Robin could stand to cut their prices by a buck or two, but I actually really like them.  My go-to burger there is the Royal, which is a bacon cheeseburger with a fried egg on top.  I'm also a fan of the mushroom-and-Swiss burger, whatever it's called.

 

- I miss Fuddrucker's.  We only had one in the Albany area; it closed a couple years ago when the landlord raised the rent and was replaced by a Hooters.

 

- I rarely go to Wendy's and Burger King, but when I do, I usually get chicken instead.  That should tell you something.

 

- McDonald's is good when you get a craving for burger-flavored grease.  From that twisted perspective, the Double Quarter Pounder is quite possibly the greatest burger on the planet.  And the Chicken McNuggets are strangely addicting.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:29 PM

Wendy's has a good baconator. Thats aw. Sonic is decent. Five guys needs to lower their price. Bk and MCD they speak for them selves..
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:31 PM

Was in Brazil this summer, had quite the interesting burger:

Half pound of meat, cooked a lot less than the medium well I'm used to in the states. Gouda cheese, fried egg, Chopped maple syrup coated bacon, potato sticks and diced tomatoes. They called it "privada entupida" which literally translates to "toilet plunger". Delicious, though!
 

Nice! I'm trying to get to Brazil for the World Cup next year. If you like the Brazilian style burgers, go to Altas Horas. It's Down Neck, a bit far from the Rock, but doable if you drive out early before a game. 


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:49 PM

Anyone been to White Rose in Highland Park?  I live around the corner from that place.  I believe they are similar to White Manna and White Diamond with the caramelized onions, although I haven't been to either of those two places.  I feel like the burger to bread ratio isn't ideal if you get a single burger, so I usually get a double cheeseburger, sometimes with bacon.  If I'm drunk enough that I don't care about money and I'm down to ball out, I get a double bacon cheeseburger with a fried egg, it's awesome.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

Burger Express in Carteret.

 

Five Guys is good, and I liked Elevation Burger the one time I was there (Montclair, I think?).

 

Oh, and LOLRangers or something.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:26 AM

The Memphis Burger at The Office is one of if not the best burger I've ever had, wash it down with a Dogfish Head, now we're talking.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:45 AM

Was in Brazil this summer, had quite the interesting burger:

Half pound of meat, cooked a lot less than the medium well I'm used to in the states. Gouda cheese, fried egg, Chopped maple syrup coated bacon, potato sticks and diced tomatoes. They called it "privada entupida" which literally translates to "toilet plunger". Delicious, though!
 

 

 

Which cities in Brazil did you visit?? and what was the name of the place you had the burguer?


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:41 AM

MSG has no chance in hell of being knocked down in 10 years so everyone might as well keep talking about burgers. I gotta start visiting some of these places lol
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:15 AM

Gotta agree with the general feelings towards Five Guys..way too expensive for an average burger.  $15 for a burger, fries, and a drink?  Right..

 

Huge fan of Red Robin's burgers (and the bottomless steak fries..mmm..).  Also a BIG fan of Cheeburger Cheeburger.  Probably my favorite burger.  Granted, I haven't been to any of the smaller places mentioned in this thread, definitely will have to do so in the future.

 

..sh!t it's wayy too early to be craving a burger :lol:


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:34 AM

Gotta agree with the general feelings towards Five Guys..way too expensive for an average burger. $15 for a burger, fries, and a drink? Right..

Huge fan of Red Robin's burgers (and the bottomless steak fries..mmm..). Also a BIG fan of Cheeburger Cheeburger. Probably my favorite burger. Granted, I haven't been to any of the smaller places mentioned in this thread, definitely will have to do so in the future.

..sh!t it's wayy too early to be craving a burger :lol:


Totally forgot about cheeburger cheeburger. They have some good stuff but I wonder sometimes if their name drives people away.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

I went to a Cheeburger Cheeburger once and I thought it sucked, but I wonder if it was that particular Cheeburger Cheeburger (in Flemington) that sucked.  My uncle tried it once and warned me, but I took my wife and daughter anyway...sadly, turned out he was 100% right.  That location closed down a while ago...Flemington is a burger overkill area anyway...there's a Five Guys, a 25 Burgers (used to be a Pizza Hut), a Wendy's, a McDonald's, a TGIF, a Chili's, and not too far up the road, a Sonic.  There's also a BK that's been closed and "under renovation" for three years, but it doesn't look like anything's really being done with it.  I'm guessing Cheeburger Cheeburger didn't make it there for a reason. 


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:45 AM

5 Guys must be much more expensive in the NY area cuz I never thought the prices were that bad. I also just get a single burger.  The double is just too much meat for me.  I do enjoy their fries though.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

I've only ever been to the Cheeburgers on route 1 near Princeton, and the one on Nassau Street in Princeton.  No complaints on either, but quality could definitely vary from place to place, wouldn't surprise me.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:59 AM

E) On topic: Last I read earlier today from someone was that Cablevision/MSG actually purchased all rights of the "air space" above Penn, so the city really has no leg to stand on. They are basically there tax free and what people are saying is that the city is using this as a way of hopefully starting to get some tax revenue to allow them to stay there. Also, with the voting I guess that coming up they wanna appease the community to make it look like they're doing something to "improve" the sh!t hole subway system.

 

I am going to assume you don't ride the NYC subways.   The subway system is very, very good and clean with new cars for the most part.    The city does have a leg to stand on and they are going to use that muscle to get some revenue, for the good of the city.   Penn Station is far more important to MSG, than MSG is to Penn Station and NYC.  

 

Would not be surprised if the West Side/Jets old project comes back into the discussion.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:14 AM

I am going to assume you don't ride the NYC subways.   The subway system is very, very good and clean with new cars for the most part.    The city does have a leg to stand on and they are going to use that muscle to get some revenue, for the good of the city.   Penn Station is far more important to MSG, than MSG is to Penn Station and NYC.  

 

Would not be surprised if the West Side/Jets old project comes back into the discussion.

 

True and the fact that for $2.50 you can go pretty much anyplace in the entire system is still pretty damn good.  Every other subway I have been on they charge you based on distance.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:40 AM

A lot of people here are forgetting the fact that MSG/Dolan has not been paying any property taxes since 1982, a Ranger fan actually reminded me of that fact. He hasn't had to pay what would've been $300 million in taxes. Do you really think the city cares at this point whether MSG stays or MSG goes? If they come to an agreement with MSG/Dolan to build a new arena either on the site of the Javits Center or somewhere in Queens (funded in large part by MSG Corp.), it's a win-win. It will create design and construction jobs at the old MSG site for a megaproject and it will create jobs for the new MSG project while renegotiating a deal to have Dolan pay taxes in the end.

 

Essentially, this situation's no different than the Nassau Coliseum in that, when the time comes, the public will have to vote for whether or not they want to pay the taxes to keep it, and considering the makeup of who lives in Manhattan right now, I don't think they'd want that.

 

When an architecture firm unveils a big shiny replacement on the site of that old toilet bowl, the city will have made its mind. They might be able to console Rangers/Knicks fans by making it easier for them to relocate on a new arena at the Javits Center site, but otherwise, the City of New York owes MSG nothing, and MSG owes the City of New York a hell of a lot.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:42 AM

But what does that have to do with burgers?  :offtopic:


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:49 AM

But what does that have to do with burgers?  :offtopic:

 

BACK ON TOPIC: Best burger I've ever had was the bacon cheeseburger w/ lava fries (hot sauce/cheese on them) from McGovern's tavern in University Heights in Newark next to the Rutgers Newark law school. You need a beer beforehand as the burger enhances the alcohol and actually makes you drunker. It's f'ing awesome. My ex-gf actually comes and visits me just for the burger :P


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:04 AM

-  I lived in Little Ferry for a bit and White Mana was always the dream place to go for burgers.  Only went a couple of times though due to the ridiculous wait, which was not worth the end product.  Sometimes the dream is better than the payoff.

 

-  Same goes for Shake Shack. Yummy as all get out, but I can't wait in line for an hour for lunch.  Their concretes are flipping great though and they have a drink only line, so you can avoid the crowds.  If you want to give them a go, I'd recommend the location on 86th St between Lexington and 3rd.  Not nearly as bad of a line as the Madison Square Park location.

 

-  Zinburger was very good the few times I've been and I love the fact they serve wine, which is a nice touch.

 

-  There's a place called Go Burger which is popping up here and there in NYC. Pretty standard stuff but better than Bareburger (another newish chain that's entirely overpriced for the snobby service and average food).  Also, I think they're affiliated with Smashburger as they have an item called "The Smashburger".  Just a burger with cheese with onions stuffed into it.  Much better than it sounds.

 

-  In and Out is a special little slice of heaven.  Animal style.  Oh man, so good.

 

-  Favorite burger in NYC is Five Napkin Burger.  Pricey but unbelievably yummy.  They also have a nice craft beer selection and a great whiskey / bourbon rack.

 

Oh, and this MSG thing is just a ploy by the city to get some more cash out of the Dolans.  I'd be shocked if they knocked down the building, considering it's national landmark, for better or for worse.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:12 AM

If I were DM I would just rename and sticky this thread.

 

"Official Offseason Burger Thread".  That Kovy UFA thread better watch out, this one might surpass it in the archives.


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