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#1 msweet

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 01:45 PM

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:13 PM

Sucha shame we that 2001 Finals was...

 

Woulda been the difference for Cups!


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

An old Patrick beat a Marty in his prime in 2001.

Id still vote for Marty though. The puck playing skills and composure put him over the top.

Edit: 2001

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

Roy > Brodeur


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:40 PM

The way I've always compared "The Big Three" (Roy, Brodeur, Hasek)

 

Roy:  most clutch, Captain Butterfly

Hasek:  best pure puck-stopper, probably ever

Brodeur:  best all-arounder...rules were actually put in place to negate his strengths.  Insanely durable. 


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:59 PM

I really hate to say this, but if we're playing one game for the Cup I'm taking Roy over Marty. He's the only guy I would take over Marty though.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 04:08 PM

The way I've always compared "The Big Three" (Roy, Brodeur, Hasek)

 

Roy:  most clutch, Captain Butterfly

Hasek:  best pure puck-stopper, probably ever

Brodeur:  best all-arounder...rules were actually put in place to negate his strengths.  Insanely durable. 

 

This is pretty much where i stand. Brodeur's longevity and durability are unmatched, but Roy won 2 Conn Smythes and 4 Cups over the course of 15 years.

 

I wish I could have seen guys like Glenn Hall, Jacques Plante, Terry Sawchuk, etc in their prime to compare.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 04:42 PM

I really hate to say this, but if we're playing one game for the Cup I'm taking Roy over Marty. He's the only guy I would take over Marty though.

 

Why hate to say it. It is the right selection and any true hockey fan knows it is the right choice.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 04:46 PM

The way I've always compared "The Big Three" (Roy, Brodeur, Hasek)

 

Roy:  most clutch, Captain Butterfly

Hasek:  best pure puck-stopper, probably ever

Brodeur:  best all-arounder...rules were actually put in place to negate his strengths.  Insanely durable. 

 

Good comparision. Marty stick handling is a plus for him, but Roy was clutch for the big games. Who doesn't get concerned if it is the big game and Marty in his prime was in goal?

 

You got to stop the puck before you move it.

 

These are the best three goalie that have been in the NHL. Tough ranking number 1. They each were special.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:09 PM

lol

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:11 PM

Also Brodeur won't throw a hissy fit and demand to be traded to a better situation


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:15 PM

Roy slightly better, and the greatest big game goalie of the past 30 years at least. Marty better to have around for a full season, especially on a so so team because of his poise and leadership. You can't ignore that Roy bear Marty in '01 (and yes, I know there were other players), but I don't see Roy winning a cup with the '03 Devils; that team won because they trusted each other and bounced back from mistakes as a team, and Marty's calming presence in net and refusal to throw guys under the bus, even when they couldn't score, had a lot to do with that culture. 


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:34 PM

Also Brodeur won't throw a hissy fit and demand to be traded to a better situation

 

Absolutely he will blame his team mates.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 06:38 PM

I must have missed Marty's 6th Cup Final appearance.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:49 PM

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:09 AM

I'll always love Marty...but as the question goes ("...in his prime..."), I think you've gotta go with Roy.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:13 AM

I must have missed Marty's 6th Cup Final appearance.



I was wondering the same thing.
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:41 AM

Good comparision. Marty stick handling is a plus for him, but Roy was clutch for the big games. Who doesn't get concerned if it is the big game and Marty in his prime was in goal?

 

You got to stop the puck before you move it.

 

These are the best three goalie that have been in the NHL. Tough ranking number 1. They each were special.

 

It's not like you can go wrong with ANY of them, really.

 

What's amazing in Hasek's case is that he racked up 389 wins and didn't even become a full-time starter in the NHL until he was 28. 

 

I've brought this up before, but from '93-'99, Hasek's save%s were just ridiculous:  .930, .930, .920, .930, .932, .937.  He finished at .922 for his career (.925 playoffs).  Brodeur is at .913 for his career and .919 playoffs, and Roy is at .910 career and .918 playoffs.  Roy's numbers are a little tricky because he played in both Live Puck and Dead Puck (his .900 save% led the NHL in '87-'88...he was putting up .900+ save%s and sub-3.00 GAAs when it was a big deal to do so.  Vanbiesbrouck won a Vezina in '86 with a 3.32 GAA and .887 save%.  Those numbers would get you cut today).  Brodeur and Hasek played most of their careers in Dead Puck.  Roy's play really sticks out if you were watching NHL hockey in the '80s, because there was a lot of mediocre goaltending back then...yeah, there were a lot of Giguere, Michelin-men types as the 90s transitioned into the 2000s, no doubt, but when you watch some '80s games, you realize that a lot of guys who were goalies back then simply weren't terribly good.  Goalies are better overall now.   

 

Beyond that, it's all about what one chooses to emphasize as to why you'd pick one over the other...Hasek's absurd puck-stopping skills, Roy's ability to play AND flourish in the stifling fishbowl that is Montreal for as long as he did, Brodeur's insane ability to start 70+ games year after year after year, be consistent, and be the best pure puck-handling goalie the game has ever seen. 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:23 AM

The way I've always compared "The Big Three" (Roy, Brodeur, Hasek)

 

Roy:  most clutch, Captain Butterfly

Hasek:  best pure puck-stopper, probably ever

Brodeur:  best all-arounder...rules were actually put in place to negate his strengths.  Insanely durable. 

 

Well said, agree with this.

In one game?  I'd take Roy for sure, but to build a franchise I'd take Marty.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:57 AM

..it's not by much, but I'm going with Roy.


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