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#61 Hi, I'm VALUE!

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:22 PM

Shane's league is so ridiculously QB-stacked it's not funny, so yes, 21/25 are QB's (and only Peterson finished remarkably ahead of the pack - the rest of the rb's placed 23rd, 24th, and 25th). Notably Adrian Peterson finished like 5 total points ahead of Josh Freeman, and Ryan Fitzpatrick finished ahead of Arian Foster in total points.

 

The league I run...

 

Top 25 (in order) overall scorers based on 2012 scoring:

Aaron Rodgers

Adrian Peterson
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Robert Griffin III
Doug Martin
Arian Foster
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson
Marshawn Lynch
Brandon Marshall
Ray Rice
Calvin Johnson
Alfred Morris
Tony Romo
Jamaal Charles
Trent Richardson
Dez Bryant
C.J. Spiller
A.J. Green
Andy Dalton
Andrew Luck
Wes Welker
 
QB - 11 RB - 9 WR - 5
 
But that's such a tough reconciliation, because the offensive scoring systems are SO different (mine is below, in case anyone's interested). 
 
Completions .1
Incomplete Passes -.1
Passing Yards 50 yards per point; 5 points at 500 yards
Passing Touchdowns 6
Interceptions -3
Rushing Yards 10 yards per point; 5 points at 200 yards
Rushing Touchdowns 6
Receptions 1
Reception Yards 20 yards per point; 5 points at 200 yards
Reception Touchdowns 6
Return Touchdowns 6
2-Point Conversions 2
Fumbles Lost -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD 6

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:18 PM

if we made a pick 6 - 6 would it change things much inthe rankings?


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 02:03 PM

if we made a pick 6 - 6 would it change things much inthe rankings?

 

This is a ballache to figure out, because most of the sources I've seen don't track the stat officially (I'm actually stunned that Yahoo is offering it, probably a first in FF).

 

Here's what I can figure out from a small sampling of who threw an interception that resulted in a touchdown (please hold all "Fail Mary" cracks, this is seriouz fantasy football buzinezz) and their adjusted scores under -3 (aylbert) and -6 (redruM) rules.

 

Stafford: 4, 292.58, 280.58
Brees: 3, 409.58, 400.58
Freeman: 3, 279.50, 270.50
Romo: 2, 318.92, 312.92
Palmer: 2, 251.32, 245.32
E. Manning: 2, 266.92, 260.92
Newton: 2, 343.46, 337.46
Vick: 1, 162.68, 159.68*
Rodgers: 0, same, same
 
For reference, the top 3 at RB/WR:
 
RB:
Adrian Peterson - 321.40
Arian Foster - 266.10
Doug Martin - 264.60
 
WR: 
Megatron: 228.40
Brandon Marshall: 220.60
Dez Bryant: 209.70

 

TE's start in the 150's, and aside from Chicago Defenses start in the low 200's. Kickers are irrelevant.

 

Maybe with the change in yardage, this will help bring the high-volume QB's down towards the mean (assuming that we want the mean to be in the 250's with the rest of the "good" players' means). By itself it doesn't completely destroy the QB's dominance.

 

EDIT: Because I like extrapolating useless scenarios, Vick's numbers over 16 games project out to 227.62 (no change), 218.62 (-3), 209.62 (-6)


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:29 PM

So pissed I passed on AP and took Charles instead.


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:45 AM

 

 
For reference, the top 3 at RB/WR:
 
RB:
Adrian Peterson - 321.40
Arian Foster - 266.10
Doug Martin - 264.60
 
WR: 
Megatron: 228.40
Brandon Marshall: 220.60
Dez Bryant: 209.70

 

TE's start in the 150's, and aside from Chicago Defenses start in the low 200's. Kickers are irrelevant.

 

Maybe with the change in yardage, this will help bring the high-volume QB's down towards the mean (assuming that we want the mean to be in the 250's with the rest of the "good" players' means). By itself it doesn't completely destroy the QB's dominance.

 

EDIT: Because I like extrapolating useless scenarios, Vick's numbers over 16 games project out to 227.62 (no change), 218.62 (-3), 209.62 (-6)

 

How did I squander this?   arg.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:34 AM

The more I think of it, the more I keep thinking that the QB Dominance is just a reflection of the actual play on the field now....it is a QB happy league, 4,000 yard QBs are a dime a dozen now, more teams are throwing the ball more then ever and it's just kinda how it is now, I think I'm ok with this too, it kinda self-balances because you have so many options to choose from, but we can start the actual voting and debating on Aug 1 !


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:14 PM

So when is D-Day?


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

Aug 1-12: rule change proposals and votes

Aug 12: the pre-draft order selection process and the keeper declaration

Draft Day is Aug 19

Draft to end Sept 5, right around 4pm :lol:


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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 02:32 PM

Still alive and kicking Crasher. Nice.

 

Ain't no grave keepin this body down....

 

....hell most people will DREAM of being as active as I am at 40!


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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

Two people still need to sign up on Yahoo...dr and Masked I think.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:13 AM

honestly, I'm good with the scoring as is, but will review whatever proposed changes you guys put out there...


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:26 PM

When we vote... I would like binary votes; not the divided vote we've done in the past

Ie

Should QB scoring. Yes/No
Then, if yes... We have another poll with two or three options to change it.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 06:26 AM

So now we gotta vote on HOW WE VOTE!?!?!?!?! :ninja: :glare:

 

oi.....it must be August.....


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 06:32 AM

Well if there is more than two options to a poll we are going to need two polls cause it's hard to come to a seven-person consensus on anything with more than two choices.  Like say the QB passing yards scoring.  If the choices are:

 

-Don't change

-Change to 30 yards passing per point

-Change to 50 yards passing per point

 

What happens if the voting comes out to 5-4-3?  More votes for don't change than any other single choice, but more people are actually voting 'for' change.

If there are only two options otoh (don't change and one of the two above) then there shouldn't be another poll needed.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:24 AM

WOW this is more difficult than it needs to be!!

 

I just want to draft players!!!


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:49 PM

I agree with Red. Why is this so difficult. 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:51 PM

Well if there is more than two options to a poll we are going to need two polls cause it's hard to come to a seven-person consensus on anything with more than two choices.  Like say the QB passing yards scoring.  If the choices are:

 

-Don't change

-Change to 30 yards passing per point

-Change to 50 yards passing per point

 

What happens if the voting comes out to 5-4-3?  More votes for don't change than any other single choice, but more people are actually voting 'for' change.

If there are only two options otoh (don't change and one of the two above) then there shouldn't be another poll needed.

 

But that's my point; you need to revote again anyways if  options 2 + 3 exceed  option 1 (because those who vote option 1 now need to revote)...  so why cloud it up?   I feel in the past votes were diluted that led to a possible different outcome than if we kept binary votes, etc.

 

But in the end... yes, its all minor.  The draft is the fun part - as long as the rules are known (changed or unchanged)    :)


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:15 AM

Well it IS August 1.....go to town :P


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

Well two things I notice looking at the scoring settings now...one, why is a safety in DST listed as 'four' points?  And two, the # of roster spots adds up to sixteen (the usual nine starters - QB, RBx2, WRx2, FLEX, TE, K, DEF, plus seven bench spots), are we expanding from fifteen spots this year?

 

I or ayl can probably put up a poll on passing yard point scoring later but it doesn't seem like there's too much interest in change by recent posts...  


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