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#161 DJ Eco

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:36 AM

I don't know much about Lemieux, but he seems like a similar player to Matteau, no? Not that that's a bad thing late in the draft.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:27 AM

I just read part of the story about the Blues not participating in the 1983 draft, which was, shall we say a little bit better than the 1996 one.  Fascinating story.

 

http://www.stlouisga...blues-the-story


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:50 AM

I just read part of the story about the Blues not participating in the 1983 draft, which was, shall we say a little bit better than the 1996 one.  Fascinating story.

 

http://www.stlouisga...blues-the-story

 

Interesting and imagine if they did fold or relocate.  I think Ramage demanded to be traded to St. Louis because he didn't want to play in NJ when the Rockies moved to NJ.  If the sale to Ornest didn't happen then he would have ended up in Saskatoon, which I doubt at the time was seen as a better location than even NJ.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:27 PM

Bob McKenzie's full Top 60 right here: http://www.tsn.ca/dr...ature/?id=95289

 

Interesting to me some of the players he has ranked lower (Goldobin at 37, Kamenev at 43, Point at 58), gives me hope that we may get even two guys that I actually really like.

I like the description for Brendan Lemieux, and he's ranked at 33, could be a Devil ?

 

"Brendan intitates and makes life most uncomfortable for those opponents who get in the way of where he wants to go. Powerful player who is productive at critical times and just won't allow himself to be denied"


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:32 PM

I would be happy to select Point at 30 but I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on hoping he slides to 41 due to his size. I would be thrilled if the Devils landed 2 of Point, Bleackley, Schmaltz, Goldobin, or Ho-Sang with their first 2 picks. I'd even throw Lemieux into that mix.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:34 PM

I know everyone wants a forward but I'm intrigued by the tall Swedish defenseman Marcus Petterson. He sounds like he just needs a few summers locked in a weight room to become a good 2nd pairing defenseman. According to the hockey news, he played this year at 6'-3" 161 lbs.
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:42 PM

I know everyone wants a forward but I'm intrigued by the tall Swedish defenseman Marcus Petterson. He sounds like he just needs a few summers locked in a weight room to become a good 2nd pairing defenseman. According to the hockey news, he played this year at 6'-3" 161 lbs.

 

We already have a Swedish Great White Hope


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:43 PM

I like the description for Brendan Lemieux, and he's ranked at 33, could be a Devil ?

"Brendan intitates and makes life most uncomfortable for those opponents who get in the way of where he wants to go. Powerful player who is productive at critical times and just won't allow himself to be denied"

It sounds like his old man taught him well. That description fit Pep to a T.
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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:37 AM

It sounds like his old man taught him well. That description fit Pep to a T.

People even call him Pepe like his dad.  I'm stoked.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:10 AM

I would be happy to select Point at 30 but I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on hoping he slides to 41 due to his size. I would be thrilled if the Devils landed 2 of Point, Bleackley, Schmaltz, Goldobin, or Ho-Sang with their first 2 picks. I'd even throw Lemieux into that mix.

This would be awesome. I'm also beginning to warm to Ruskies as well.You know David Conte reads this stuff. 


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:30 PM

Interesting read on prospect Joshua Ho-Sang.

 

 

I asked a chief scout with a late pick in the first round whether he would select Ho-Sang if he was available, and without hesitating, he answered no.

When I asked why, he said there are certain criteria his organization values, “and if I picked him, my scouts would all revolt. He doesn’t fit what we’re looking for.”

 

Said Ho-Sang, in a lengthy interview: “If I was a general manager and had first pick in the draft, I’d pick me No. 1 ... In three years, I’ll be the best player in this draft. And I have no doubt about that. I know myself. I know the other players. I believe in my ability. There are guys ranked ahead of me who are nowhere near me.

 

“I’m not concerned about the draft (and where I’m picked). I know what’s being said out there. I know people’s skepticism. I’m prepared for that.”

 

http://www.torontosu...-joshua-ho-sang


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:47 PM

Ho-Sang seems like one of those guys that is universally hated based on what comes out in the media despite having a lot of skill. 3 of the quotes on him from NHL scouts in the Hockey Prospect Black Book are really damning. There are other players I like over him for 30 and 41 but I wouldn't complain if the Devils got him. Pronman has him ranked 20th, Hockey Prospect at 61st, and Future Considerations at 20th. If he somehow lasted until 71 that would be amazing. Doubt it happens though.

Ho-Sang put up some great numbers this year: 67 GP 32-53-85 with a great 80.6% point share.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:53 PM

Ho-Sang seems like one of those guys that is universally hated based on what comes out in the media despite having a lot of skill. 3 of the quotes on him from NHL scouts in the Hockey Prospect Black Book are really damning. There are other players I like over him for 30 and 41 but I wouldn't complain if the Devils got him. Pronman has him ranked 20th, Hockey Prospect at 61st, and Future Considerations at 20th. If he somehow lasted until 71 that would be amazing. Doubt it happens though.

Ho-Sang put up some great numbers this year: 67 GP 32-53-85 with a great 80.6% point share.


It reminds me a bit of what happened to Brandon Saad, but Ho-Sang appears to be a lot more polarizing.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:53 PM

Ho-Sang seems like one of those guys that is universally hated based on what comes out in the media despite having a lot of skill. 3 of the quotes on him from NHL scouts in the Hockey Prospect Black Book are really damning. There are other players I like over him for 30 and 41 but I wouldn't complain if the Devils got him. Pronman has him ranked 20th, Hockey Prospect at 61st, and Future Considerations at 20th. If he somehow lasted until 71 that would be amazing. Doubt it happens though.

Ho-Sang put up some great numbers this year: 67 GP 32-53-85 with a great 80.6% point share.

 

He has all the qualities many scouts and teams are scared of, but he's just a teenager. He made quite a few good points in the interview, but these old white guys don't want to have him pull out the race card (even if there might be some truth to it).

 

He thinks a little too highly of his own game, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing either...but it could be. The NHL could definitely use guys like Josh Ho-Sang -- the kind of players that are celebrated in many other sports but frowned upon in the NHL and MLB.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:28 PM

Wow, it's not everyday you have a young hockey player like that.  I'd take a chance on the kid, but I don't know if Lou would.  He understands the hockey world, but still has a great love for the game.  I need to look up some of his video now and see if he walks the walk.  You can't help but love that kind of drive in a young player.  To me, it's promising when a young player has the drive and wants to be the best player on the ice every single shift. 


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:21 PM

Interesting read on prospect Joshua Ho-Sang.

 

 

http://www.torontosu...-joshua-ho-sang

 

I don't know. This all sounds par for the course. I'm sure many in the draft if asked would say they should be drafted number 1 overall. It would actually sound strange to hear a player say that so and so should be picked number 1.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:31 AM

Josh Ho-Sang has that personality that i've seen in interviews that makes me feel like i'm going to hate him when he comes to the NHL, I really don't like players that have that sort of cockiness, it's why I don't like Subban

Liking a player and him coming to your team and contributing at a high level are two different things.  Would I take Subban, P. Kane, or E. Kane if I had the option? hell yeah.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:58 AM

I've been rummaging through a lot of scouts or other avid juniors follower who have seen Ho Sang and there isn't much positive to make me think we should take him.
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:10 AM

The kid sounds like a cocky sh!t, but I LOVE IT. Fans are so wrapped up in our little hockey world that we forget he's a teenager. It's nothing the Devils can't fix. After all is said and done, I can't see him sliding up to 41, but I'd be thrilled if we grabbed him then. I may even be thrilled if we grabbed him at 30 honestly. Maybe he says things the wrong way but what he says makes sense. He'll really benefit by getting out of Canada and into a place as diverse as New Jersey/New York metro area. Hell, our captain is mixed race.

 

Onto the hockey end of things, what he also says is correct: imagine if he had some of the linemates that some of the more highly ranked prospects had? Sure, he comes off a bit cocky, but a lot of what he says is spot-on, and cockiness can be tamed and channeled in the right way.


I've been rummaging through a lot of scouts or other avid juniors follower who have seen Ho Sang and there isn't much positive to make me think we should take him.

 

The first thing I've seen most scouts say is that he may be one of the most highly skilled players this draft. It's his personality they can't seem to get past.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:12 AM

if he's athletic and aggressive, i don't see why he wouldn't be a good risk.  as 'Fiesty said, Pronman and Future Considerations both have the kid ranked 20th.  if he slides to maybe our 2nd rounder, id say go for it.


theres a risk he could be annoying to teammates, but that risk can be solved and its also countered by the energy that type of player can bring on the ice


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