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#61 Bartholomew Hunt

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:30 AM

The irony of people getting mad for ripping on avery for being gay is amazing. It was said when gay people stop committing suicide then we can make jokes. As if avery was a real role model for respectful behavior. He called marty fat, how terrible!!! When fat people stop committing suicide then that will be funny, how dare he!! He basically called cuthbert a whore, how dare he!!

Its safe to say the whole league knew he was gay. James wisniewski got it right years ago. And it was hysterical because avery got treated how he treated others.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:31 AM

Not to mention many gay people actively feel they have to go to great lengths to hide while straight people aren't exactly concerned with things that would be considered modest like holding hands or kissing in public.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:04 AM

I have an uncle whom I love very much. He has a husband, I very much enjoy having him around as well. I find homosexuality rather odd-- I don't enjoy seeing it, talking about it, or hearig about it. To me, it's like watching animals have sex - it happens, I'm not trying to stop it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't churn my stomach.

I think political correctness is horsesh!t. If they are allowed to parade to celebrate their homosexuality, why aren't I allowed to post on an online forum that I find it yucky?

I'm not saying I'm against it. I'm all for gay rights, and even as a relatively devout Christian I find it horrific when people misquote the bible to damn them all to hell. But why am I not allowed to voice my opinion?

 

Because, with all due respect, that particular opinion isn't the least bit relevant to the discussion.  It doesn't add anything and can only serve to derail and divide.  Furthermore, as you've already seen, it can be easily misinterpreted as and/or turned into a statement that you have a problem with gay people.  It seems like you're content to live and let live, so why would you put yourself in a position where it looks like you're being a judgmental bastard instead?

 

It's a matter of appropriateness.  In other words, just because you can say it doesn't mean you should.  It is not appropriate to respond to "rumor: Sean Avery engaged to another man" with "yucky!"  Just because you can turn almost every thread into a Parise or Kovalchuk bash-fest or chant "Rangers suck!" ten times a game doesn't mean you should.

 

I'm not saying you're doing this, but I don't like it when people hide deeper anti-gay views behind "ewww, icky!"  It is true that straight men are usually squicked out by physical expressions of male homosexuality, even kissing; it's just how we're wired.  (It's the same reason why many of us ARE turned on by lesbians "going at it", but that's a whole 'nother tangent that is similarly not relevant to this discussion, so I shall table it.)  But that need not be an excuse to delve into full-scale homophobia.  (Someone already pointed out that "homophobia" isn't exactly the best word to describe the thoughts and emotions that are usually on display, but I'll stick with it for lack of a better word.)  Countless numbers of people are able to see gays as people and not walking sex objects; as I already said, if sex is the first place you go when this topic comes up, that's a maturity problem.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:06 AM

I spoke to a Rags exec back in 2009 who said Avery "Was a bit of a weirdo...into everything and everybody" Really emphasizing the body part. Said basically 1/2 of the Rags locker room was fine with him, the other half very uncomfortable with him around. Thing is Avery isn't the only gay/bisexual player in the league, but he is the only one who was as confrontational and flamboyant

 

Lundqvist HATES him btw. We give Lundqvist crap for being kind of a dashing pretty boy. He has no tolerance for Avery

 

Markus Naslund wouldn't speak to him at all the 1 year he was with the Rangers


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:11 PM

Okay so humor just isn't your thing then. Fair enough.

I can get ginea, wop and dago jokes said to me or white jokes said to me and piss myself because they're FUNNY. I have no control over that but im not gunna be a sensitive sally. Making edgy jokes doesnt mean you want people to commit suicide or go commit hate crime, they're just funny.

Thank you for your wonderful reading skills. Also, I'm fine with Irish and Polish jokes made at me. I find jokes less funny when they reflect a deeper problem with society, and when the people who are supposed to find them funny are statistically more likely to commit suicide (queer), be convicted of a crime that a white person would escape (black) or get paid less for the same work (woman). It's nice to be a straight white male, and I tend not to be a dick just because I can. Apparently you're not okay with that.


I spoke to a Rags exec back in 2009 who said Avery "Was a bit of a weirdo...into everything and everybody" Really emphasizing the body part. Said basically 1/2 of the Rags locker room was fine with him, the other half very uncomfortable with him around. Thing is Avery isn't the only gay/bisexual player in the league, but he is the only one who was as confrontational and flamboyant

 

Lundqvist HATES him btw. We give Lundqvist crap for being kind of a dashing pretty boy. He has no tolerance for Avery

 

Markus Naslund wouldn't speak to him at all the 1 year he was with the Rangers

The thing is (and the Lundquist point really backs this up), is that Avery being confrontational has nothing to do with his sexuality (flamboyant maybe), and his personality has a lot more to do with people being uncomfortable with him IMHO. I hate Avery for reasons that have nothing to do with whom he wants to bone.


Edited by mouse, 07 September 2013 - 12:11 PM.

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