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#321 PWW

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:16 PM

There was no reason to voice any opinion tonight.  It's just a song!

 

Clearly the majority of people feel differently. I always used to hear a few scattered complaints about "you suck" but tonight was most of the crowd reacting to something they disagreed with. We were all paying customers, we have the right to voice an opinion. If it's "just a song", then why do you seem so STRONGLY against it? Try to see another point of view sometime. It's an interesting concept.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:16 PM

I was actually sitting there dreading whether we'd be booing the thing if someone scored an OT winner.  What an embarassment THAT would have been.

 

And it's funny all these people that supposedly hate 'you suck'...none of them came to the game tonight.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:16 PM

It wasn't changed because of Gary Glitter, it was because some prudes don't like the word "suck" and complained to the team.   Never mind the strippers and the never ending parade of drunks, we can't have the word "suck" be uttered

 

Mindboggling to me considering it's a SYNONYME FOR STINKS!!! "Sucks" is as non-offensive as you can get. It's like "ass" or "damn" or "Hell" (no pun intended) if you think "sucks" is a bad word these days...in 2013 you need to come outside more often.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:17 PM

Yes. Saying "Hey the opposing team sucks" is "low brow" but chanting "Flyers swallow" isn't.
 
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Flyers swallow is trashy too. "Flyers swallow " and "you suck" seem to have started around the same time. At least that is yelled randomly and not as a celebration ritual.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:18 PM

The "Flyers swallow" chant is distasteful for sure.  But chanting "you suck" is not the right way to celebrate a goal.

 

 

I think it's dumb no matter what the score is.  But whatever.  This argument has been beaten to death.

I bet you that you did the chant too, if you say didn't your a lair because everybody does it in the arena


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

It wasn't changed because of Gary Glitter, it was because some prudes don't like the word "suck" and complained to the team.   Never mind the strippers and the never ending parade of drunks, we can't have the word "suck" be uttered

 

It's not the word itself.  It's the fact we use the phrase "you suck" as a way to celebrate a goal, and it's stupid.  

 

And if you think the dancers resemble strippers, I'd like to know what strip clubs you go to.  I'm not a fan of the dancers either.  But who cares?  Those girls love dancing, and they get a chance to do it professionally.  You don't have to look at them if you don't want to.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

Yelling "You Suck" after scoring a goal isn't offensive because "suck" is a bad word. It is offensive because it's not creative, not funny, low class and ends up being yelled regardless if we're winning or not.

This dumb chant makes me think our fan base has a bunch of people like this in the stands. http://i3.kym-cdn.co...294/980/6b5.jpg

Celebrate the goal with the team, cheer them on. R&R pt 2 was a great goal song but "you suck" is why we can't have nice things.

Chant Lundqvist sucks or Flyers suck all you want, but try not to celebrate a goal like an idiot just because there is a mob doing it.


So now its low class? My goodness the high horse of morality some of you people have is ridicilious.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

Flyers swallow is trashy too. "Flyers swallow " and "you suck" seem to have started around the same time. At least that is yelled randomly and not as a celebration ritual.

 

One is non-offensive the other is pretty much so. If you think kids don't say "sucks" in this day and age...ooooh boy. It's considered pretty tame and widely accepted these days. Not the 1950's anymore.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:20 PM

It's not the word itself.  It's the fact we use the phrase "you suck" as a way to celebrate a goal, and it's stupid.  

 

And if you think the dancers resemble strippers, I'd like to know what strip clubs you go to.  I'm not a fan of the dancers either.  But who cares?  Those girls love dancing, and they get a chance to do it professionally.  You don't have to look at them if you don't want to.

 

And if you don't wanna chant "you suck", you don't have to. Your hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:21 PM

It's not the word itself.  It's the fact we use the phrase "you suck" as a way to celebrate a goal, and it's stupid.  

 

And if you think the dancers resemble strippers, I'd like to know what strip clubs you go to.  I'm not a fan of the dancers either.  But who cares?  Those girls love dancing, and they get a chance to do it professionally.  You don't have to look at them if you don't want to.

 

They're far from classy.   My point is if people are going to be prudish there's plenty of other logical places to start.   And yes, I would not be surprised if this was a "day job" for a few of them.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:22 PM

Clearly the majority of people feel differently. I always used to hear a few scattered complaints about "you suck" but tonight was most of the crowd reacting to something they disagreed with. We were all paying customers, we have the right to voice an opinion. If it's "just a song", then why do you seem so STRONGLY against it? Try to see another point of view sometime. It's an interesting concept.

 

I'm not against the song.  I'm not against any song.  I loved R&R part 2.  What I am against is the fan response to this change.  There's no reason for it no matter what the circumstances are.


I bet you that you did the chant too, if you say didn't your a lair because everybody does it in the arena

 

I used to do it.  But that was before I realized how dumb it was.  I haven't chanted "you suck" in years.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:23 PM

I'm not against the song.  I'm not against any song.  I loved R&R part 2.  What I am against is the fan response to this change.  There's no reason for it no matter what the circumstances are.


 

I used to do it.  But that was before I realized how dumb it was.  I haven't chanted "you suck" in years.

 

Okay.  Let's review.

 

1) A change because of a reaction is okay.

2) A reaction because of a change is bad.

 

I'm sorry if I'm being a dick to you but for someone who doesn't care, you care too much and you've got a bit of a logical fallacy going on


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:24 PM

I bet you that you did the chant too, if you say didn't your a lair because everybody does it in the arena

I've been going to games long before flyers swallow was added to the rangers suck chant. It was funny the first few times "Gomez Swallows" was chanted when played us as a Ranger. But after that it's just overkill.


Also I'm not some Ned Flanders. Bad words don't offend me. It's just cringe worthy.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

And if you don't wanna chant "you suck", you don't have to. Your hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.

 

That's why I don't do it.

 

They're far from classy.   My point is if people are going to be prudish there's plenty of other logical places to start.   And yes, I would not be surprised if this was a "day job" for a few of them.

 

I would like to know how they are any different than other dance teams out there.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

I'm not against the song.  I'm not against any song.  I loved R&R part 2.  What I am against is the fan response to this change.  There's no reason for it no matter what the circumstances are.


 

I used to do it.  But that was before I realized how dumb it was.  I haven't chanted "you suck" in years.

 

The fan response should tell you what the majority of paying customers want. Fan response should be top priority. If management doesn't listen to the fans then...I just don't know.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:29 PM

The fan response should tell you what the majority of paying customers want. Fan response should be top priority. If management doesn't listen to the fans then...I just don't know.

 

They have two weeks to get hit over the head with Captain Obvious's frying pan.  And I'm sure whatever they didn't hear from the crowd reaction they're going to read in hate posts on the Internet/Twitter/Facebook and angry fans calling and writing letters.  If they're not going to have R$R Part 2 then at least have something GUARANTEED to engender goodwill from the majority of the fans - Runnin' with the Devil maybe, or something from Springsteen.  Hell, play the Sopranos theme if you must.  But this song cannot be played again, the Benny Hill theme would have been better, at least that's a creative way to make fun of the other team :P


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:29 PM

Wrote an e-mail to one of the Devils ticket reps. about the song and got a pretty immediate response. They indicated they'd "like to see how the fanbase reacts over the next few games".

 

I agree with a few of the other people on here. R&R part 2 or not, this song is not the way to go. Zombie Nation (which ended up failing) was 10 times better than this song as a "goal song". This one doesn't fit at all.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:30 PM

The fact Devils fans are so concerned over a stupid goal song is ridiculous. It's possible the new owners are behind this. In which case, Devils fans should be grateful since our debt is now gone. It's stupid to make such a big deal over a goal song.


They should be grateful that I pay for my season tickets. It's a 2 way street. It's their team, so they can change the goals song to itsy bitsy spider if they want. It is my right to boo their asinine selection and make my feelings known about it. And I will continue to do so until they change it back. It has nothing to do with the players and the team and management clearly knows that.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:30 PM

Okay.  Let's review.

 

1) A change because of a reaction is okay.

2) A reaction because of a change is bad.

 

I'm sorry if I'm being a dick to you but for someone who doesn't care, you care too much and you've got a bit of a logical fallacy going on

 

Unless you're offended by Bon Jovi, there's nothing worth complaining about.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:30 PM

The fan response should tell you what the majority of paying customers want. Fan response should be top priority. If management doesn't listen to the fans then...I just don't know.

 

This. So much this. This is the be all, end all response to this argument. The majority of PAYING CUSTOMERS booed it and want it changed. A business needs to do its best to please its customers, especially when they are fighting to get new fans from numerous other local businesses. Also, you need to keep fans happy because you need them to keep coming back and in a time when the on-ice product has struggled more than usual over the past few years, now is not the time to be picking this battle and pissing people off.


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