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#461 PWW

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:22 PM

But like I just said, no other fanbase uses their goal song as a way to jeer the opposing team.  We shouldn't either.

 

Well to quote you earlier in this same thread, "There's nothing wrong with creating new traditions." 


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:24 PM

Well to quote you earlier in this same thread, "There's nothing wrong with creating new traditions." 

 

Well I guess that settles it then.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:26 PM

I like R&R part 2 but hate that it was written by a pedophile and I hate the "You Suck" chant.  I'd like to see them find a new song.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:30 PM

Well it is.  My point is, no other fanbase uses the goal song as an opportunity to jeer the other team.  We shouldn't either.

 

 

Do you know what the term "rallying cry" or "rallying chant" means?  They are terms in reference to cheers or actions fans and players do in order to make a comeback.  You've heard of "rally caps" or the "rally monkey" in Anaheim, right?  Well when a team is behind, players and fans resort to "rally"ing as a means to get their team back into the game in which they are losing.

 

"This is our house" can actually be used in that manner.  "You suck" cannot in any way be used in that manner.

 

And what's worse?  Celebrating to a song written by a Rags fan, or celebrating to a song written by a pedophile?

 

I don't really see how what other fanbases do should correlate to what we should do. Do we need to follow their lead? We've done that for years. The fanbase is finally growing up and finally coming into their own. We're not quite selling out every game just yet but it's like Wysh said in his article on this topic today... Long gone are the passive and quiet days in the Meadowlands, replaced by raucous and energetic crowds at the Rock. Of course I'll stand up and scream, "Hey, you suck!" because it's fun to do that. You look around and everyone is yelling it, just going crazy, and getting into the spirit of things. Who is getting offended? Look at that video of Ovi. The players aren't offended. No ones offended. So if the word's not offensive then what is it? The fact that we're doing it while celebrating a goal at the same time? If it's all in good fun then what is the problem? If people don't have a problem with razzing the other team and don't take offense to the word "suck" then I really don't see what the issue is. Additionally, why would I care who composed the music? That is irrelevant.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

I like R&R part 2 but hate that it was written by a pedophile and I hate the "You Suck" chant.  I'd like to see them find a new song.

 

As I said earlier. No one goes into a game thinking about the morals of the person that wrote our goal horn. As said above it's irrelevant. Considering it was a version in which Glitter got NO ROYALTIES FROM.

 

Stop trying to make the NJD crowd experience lame. This is hockey. Bring on the loud jeering and the fights. HUSTLE AND BUSSLE!


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

Just use "We Will Rock You." The whole crowd will be familiar with it, it's not degrading specifically to the other team and it is uplifting to our own. It's canned and cliched, yes, but in the absence of a better alternative it's done by a guy who would screw anything other than children and who is now dead so therefore can't be vilified.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:46 PM

I don't really see how what other fanbases do should correlate to what we should do. Do we need to follow their lead? We've done that for years. The fanbase is finally growing up and finally coming into their own. We're not quite selling out every game just yet but it's like Wysh said in his article on this topic today... Long gone are the passive and quiet days in the Meadowlands, replaced by raucous and energetic crowds at the Rock. Of course I'll stand up and scream, "Hey, you suck!" because it's fun to do that. You look around and everyone is yelling it, just going crazy, and getting into the spirit of things. Who is getting offended? Look at that video of Ovi. The players aren't offended. No ones offended. So if the word's not offensive then what is it? The fact that we're doing it while celebrating a goal at the same time? If it's all in good fun then what is the problem? If people don't have a problem with razzing the other team and don't take offense to the word "suck" then I really don't see what the issue is. Additionally, why would I care who composed the music? That is irrelevant.

 

Well here's the problem.  I hear all the time that Devils fans want to be different.  But then why are we stealing other fanbases' chants?

 

I'agree that the game atmosphere is great due to the crazier crowds.  I enjoy the hell out of it.  I just don't understand why we have to let everyone know they suck.  It screams inferiority complex.

 

Listen nobody is offended by the chant itself.  But celebrate a goal in this manner?  To me, it's just not necessary.


Just use "We Will Rock You." The whole crowd will be familiar with it, it's not degrading specifically to the other team and it is uplifting to our own. It's canned and cliched, yes, but in the absence of a better alternative it's done by a guy who would screw anything other than children and who is now dead so therefore can't be vilified.

 

Not to mention we play in the arena nicknamed "The Rock".


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

As I said earlier. No one goes into a game thinking about the morals of the person that wrote our goal horn. As said above it's irrelevant. Considering it was a version in which Glitter got NO ROYALTIES FROM.

 

Stop trying to make the NJD crowd experience lame. This is hockey. Bring on the loud jeering and the fights. HUSTLE AND BUSSLE!

 

You don't need to have "you suck" chanted in order for crowds to be "Not" lame.  I agree Gary Glitter's past shouldn't influence anything, but from a PR perspective, there's nothing wrong with any organization trying to disassociate from him.

 

Also, how is it he gets no money when we play the song?  Do you have a source?


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:49 PM

But how else are they gonna know they suck if we don't tell them? Seriously though, I want the other team to feel as bad as possible after they get scored on. It's a bunch of grown men playing a game for a living, I think they'll get over it.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:52 PM

But how else are they gonna know they suck if we don't tell them? Seriously though, I want the other team to feel as bad as possible after they get scored on. It's a bunch of grown men playing a game for a living, I think they'll get over it.

 

We can tell them after the goal song stops.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

See in my opinion, we're missing the most important part of the college version of the chant. After telling the other team they suck during the goal song you're supposed to point at the opposing team's goalie chanting "SIEVE! SIEVE! SIEVE! SIEVE!IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!"


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

We can tell them after the goal song stops.

 

I'm done. You have one point that you keep reiterating that is the definition of nitpicking. Bottom line is not only does the new song suck, but you are CLEARLY in the minority on the other side of the argument based on how loud and widespread the booing was last night. I seriously doubt the Devils management is dumb enough to not see this and it will hopefully be changed by the 19th. If it's not, I will boo again. And I will continue to boo until something is done. So if you're near section 117 and you hear someone booing Bon Jovi, it'll be me...and everyone else in the arena.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

We can tell them after the goal song stops.

 

The only thing you are going to hear after the goal horn stopping is 16,000 fans chanting how much they dislike the new goal horn.

 

The Bon Jovi horn is the new coke & Microsoft 8 of goal horns.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:58 PM

I feel like I've said this every 8 pages.

The You Suck chant isn't so much the problem. It's when it's used at the wrong time. After a score to make it 5-2 to Winnipeg in a losing effort? Don't say it.

That's why the change.
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:59 PM

I feel like I've said this every 8 pages.

The You Suck chant isn't so much the problem. It's when it's used at the wrong time. After a score to make it 5-2 to Winnipeg in a losing effort? Don't say it.

That's why the change.

 

And yelling "This is our house" when down 5-2 to Winnipeg would be better? Nevermind, I said I'm done. I have to stop reading this thread.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:59 PM

I feel like I've said this every 8 pages.

The You Suck chant isn't so much the problem. It's when it's used at the wrong time. After a score to make it 5-2 to Winnipeg in a losing effort? Don't say it.

That's why the change.

 

And chanting "This is Our House" in a losing effort brings the same result.

 

If they plan on keeping this as the horn then that argument is a void one.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:01 PM

Well here's the problem.  I hear all the time that Devils fans want to be different.  But then why are we stealing other fanbases' chants?

 

I'agree that the game atmosphere is great due to the crazier crowds.  I enjoy the hell out of it.  I just don't understand why we have to let everyone know they suck.  It screams inferiority complex.

 

Listen nobody is offended by the chant itself.  But celebrate a goal in this manner?  To me, it's just not necessary.


 

Not to mention we play in the arena nicknamed "The Rock".

 

You just said earlier that no other fanbases jeer the other team while celebrating a goal, and now you are saying we have stolen this chant. What?

 

Inferiority complex? You and the others opposed to it are so off base. It's not an inferiority complex, it is harmless ribbing. It's borderline playful.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:04 PM

I'm done. You have one point that you keep reiterating that is the definition of nitpicking. Bottom line is not only does the new song suck, but you are CLEARLY in the minority on the other side of the argument based on how loud and widespread the booing was last night. I seriously doubt the Devils management is dumb enough to not see this and it will hopefully be changed by the 19th. If it's not, I will boo again. And I will continue to boo until something is done. So if you're near section 117 and you hear someone booing Bon Jovi, it'll be me...and everyone else in the arena.

 

You guys are nitpicking too.  You guys seems so offended by the idea of chanting "you suck" after the goal song is done playing.  What's the matter?  You HAVE to chant it during the song?

 

The only thing you are going to hear after the goal horn stopping is 16,000 fans chanting how much they dislike the new goal horn.

 

The Bon Jovi horn is the new coke & Microsoft 8 of goal horns.

 

I haven't been talking about the new song.

 

I feel like I've said this every 8 pages.

The You Suck chant isn't so much the problem. It's when it's used at the wrong time. After a score to make it 5-2 to Winnipeg in a losing effort? Don't say it.

That's why the change.

 

Too bad they won't understand this.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

https://www.facebook...NewJerseyDevils As you can see MB there are tons of people that just like you are in complete agreement over the change and love that R&R Part II is gone.


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