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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:31 AM

If they were intent on changing the song, whether or not because of "you suck", they were really in a no win situation.  Announce it ahead of time, you'll get the same backlash, which is arguably worse in that management is consciously not listening to the fans.

 

In hindsight, the best course of action would have been to go with the new song during preseason and let the "you suck" people vent while no one is really watching.  By the time the season started, perhaps the outrage would have died down, and maybe they could have settled on something optimal when the regular season started. 

 

I mentioned in previous posts that backlash was inevitable, but being upfront with the fans (and then involving them) would've been a hell of a lot better than blindsiding them at the home opener, when most of the fans in attendance had no idea they were in for a little surprise.  Playing R&R Part 2 during the preseason didn't exactly help their cause either. 


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:38 AM

I mentioned in previous posts that backlash was inevitable, but being upfront with the fans (and then involving them) would've been a hell of a lot better than blindsiding them at the home opener, when most of the fans in attendance had no idea they were in for a little surprise.  Playing R&R Part 2 during the preseason didn't exactly help their cause either.

I agree if they knew they were going to change the song they shouldve done it for the first game of the pre season. . I think the fans were annoyed that they were expecting one thing and as soon as it came on they were blindsided
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:43 AM

I agree if they knew they were going to change the song they shouldve done it for the first game of the pre season. . I think the fans were annoyed that they were expecting one thing and as soon as it came on they were blindsided

 

Yeah...we're so against R&R Part 2, we need to change it, but we'll continue to play it during the preseason like it's not an issue, and not let the fans have any involvement in the replacement, or even let them know that a replacement is even in the works?!  WTF?!? 


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:52 AM

People got up to cheer as always after the first goal and felt kinda stupid that they didnt know what was going on.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:08 PM

I'll believe the commitment of the new owners to financing and marketing this team when I actually see it.  All owners come in saying great things, no matter how rich they are.  They're like politicians promising the moon to their constituents.  Plus, it's no secret that they wanted the arena and basically had no choice but to buy the team with it.  For me, their actions will speak louder than words and, thus far, their actions have pissed off a large part of the fanbase (monitoring ticket resales, changing the goal song) which is not a great way to start things out. 

 

The lack of ticket deals thus far is more concerning from my point of view.  Not because I need them for myself.  But because we couldn't even sell out on opening night, a Friday no less, against the Islanders.  That's not a good sign for things to come, like a Wed. game vs. Columbus or Carolina.  I personally would rather have a full building (like most of last season) than worry about my ticket resale value as a STH.

Having a jaded or a "show me the money" attitude is not uncommon given how sports owners and politicians treat the public. We're all guilty of that to an extent. What's scary is how people are acting over a goal song and a grade school mentality chant. It's like Harris and Blitzer changed the uniforms. Or the Cup banners. Fired Lou. Slashed payroll to line their pockets back from the team sale. Or made players do a fashion show with clothes designed by Sean Avery  :angry:

 

It's beyond foolish and immature and unfortunately it's coming from a certain age group and man-children who haven;t matured one bit since.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:13 PM

Having a jaded or a "show me the money" attitude is not uncommon given how sports owners and politicians treat the public. We're all guilty of that to an extent. What's scary is how people are acting over a goal song and a grade school mentality chant. It's like Harris and Blitzer changed the uniforms. Or the Cup banners. Fired Lou. Slashed payroll to line their pockets back from the team sale. Or made players do a fashion show with clothes designed by Sean Avery  :angry:
 
It's beyond foolish and immature and unfortunately it's coming from a certain age group and man-children who haven;t matured one bit since.

its not about maturity it was just a fun chant that has been around forever... it was a tradition. They came in and just decided to get rid of a tradition which is why this entire thing is going on.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:23 PM

The chant hasn't been around forever.  I don't remember it happening before they took R&R Part 2 away the first time, but some people do - I've listened to some videos of 2006 goals and I don't really hear it.  It's been around for 5 years tops.  


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:30 PM

Yeah! The nerve of them! Who the hell are they to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to rescue the franchise from debt and (possible) league takeover. To provide the financial security the organization has never enjoyed before and are willing to provide that to win. To leave a HOF executive to do his thing and not interfere. To commit to the state of NJ and finally have the resources to keep the team here long term. To have a plan to market them the way they should have been for 30 years. THE shame on these new owners!!! Who do they think they are? 

I know I'm late getting to this but I agree 100%. As long as these owners pump $ into the on ice product and allow Lou to do his thing then I'll be happy.

 

The Rangers suck, flyers swallow fans better watch out. There will be roving Politically correct police in the stands with batons soon.

Funny you mention this because I could see a New Yankee Stadium situation playing out. NYS is heavily PC policed nowadays. I stopped sitting in the bleachers because I actually enjoy sitting somewhere where I can see the whole field, but from last I checked, the bleacher creatures can't even chant "box seats suck" anymore at the end of roll call. I've heard horror stories of people getting reprimanded or tossed out for heckling the opposition or walking around during GBA. Not to mention the NYS staff has a horrible reputation, especially with the whole have's/have nots country club mentality of the new stadium - look no further than the Rivera bobblehead fiasco.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:31 PM

5 years is plenty long enough for it to have became a tradition which it is.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:38 PM

The chant hasn't been around forever.  I don't remember it happening before they took R&R Part 2 away the first time, but some people do - I've listened to some videos of 2006 goals and I don't really hear it.  It's been around for 5 years tops.  

 

I remember hearing it for the first time around 2003 (and being kind of surprised by it), for whatever that's worth, but it was a much smaller group of people doing it.  It took a while (several seasons), but eventually it was an audible majority taking part.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:41 PM

5 years and a Stanley Cup finals fun that included vanquishing the Rags....who lets face it, suck.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

Happy medium...go old school and play "Whoomp There It Is" like they did for a few seasons in the 90's.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:29 PM

Happy medium...go old school and play "Whoomp There It Is" like they did for a few seasons in the 90's.

 

HAH i like this.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:31 PM

Happy medium...go old school and play "Whoomp There It Is" like they did for a few seasons in the 90's.

 

I remember that and it only happened for 1 season or less in the mid 90's.

 

Back then when it happened people were confused and a little upset, but the crowd got a little bit into in the brief time it was played.  Back then you didn't have the crowd boo the song and had a bunch of whiny fans complaining that the Devils took their song away.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:41 PM

Happy medium...go old school and play "Whoomp There It Is" like they did for a few seasons in the 90's.

I'd support this.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:19 PM

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:13 PM

I remember that and it only happened for 1 season or less in the mid 90's.

 

Back then when it happened people were confused and a little upset, but the crowd got a little bit into in the brief time it was played.  Back then you didn't have the crowd boo the song and had a bunch of whiny fans complaining that the Devils took their song away.

I remember that. And sometimes they alternated if there were multiple goals in a game every one would be either R&R2 or Whoomp


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

The chant hasn't been around forever. I don't remember it happening before they took R&R Part 2 away the first time, but some people do - I've listened to some videos of 2006 goals and I don't really hear it. It's been around for 5 years tops.


I have a vague recollection of hearing it at the games during the 2006 Devils-Ranger playoff series.

EDIT: And if I'm right, it was during game 1 of that series, at a point in the game when the chant was totally appropriate.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

The chant hasn't been around forever.  I don't remember it happening before they took R&R Part 2 away the first time, but some people do - I've listened to some videos of 2006 goals and I don't really hear it.  It's been around for 5 years tops.  

 

I don't really remember it either, but to be fair, post lockout, pre-move that place was a graveyard


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

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