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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:37 AM

I think this post over at HF is very telling about the situation and should be shared.

 

"I was literally just told by a Devils rep "off the record" that I have a better chance of seeing Bin Laden resurrect than seeing RRP2 come back. Then they proceeded to tell me that they 100% think its "fvcked up" that they're doing this, but the ownership themselves are very dead set on it. The reps at the meetings kept saying how it was a bad idea to change it and that they fear the crowds reaction at every home game. Business tactics and ethics aside, they miss Vanderbeek."

 

They miss JVB because the new owners are putting them to work.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:47 AM

JVB was laying people off left and right, the turnover was quick; they were totally understaffed. They should be careful what they wish for.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:02 AM

That quote also prompted me to call my rep. He said that he looked at the results briefly and said that a NUMBER of fans are writing in Rock and Roll Part 2 and that it's an "overwhelming favorite". Said that he doesn't know if management will disregard the votes or not but because it's been so many fans requesting that song thinks they might not be able to...


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:06 AM

That quote also prompted me to call my rep. He said that he looked at the results briefly and said that a NUMBER of fans are writing in Rock and Roll Part 2 and that it's an "overwhelming favorite". Said that he doesn't know if management will disregard the votes or not but because it's been so many fans requesting that song thinks they might not be able to...

Not surprising but nonetheless interesting, did he mention any others that were frontrunners? Or just R&R2?
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:09 AM

Not surprising but nonetheless interesting, did he mention any others that were frontrunners? Or just R&R2?

 

Just R&R2. Didn't even mention another song. He also said that he believes if ownership wanted to eliminate something it should be the "whistle chant" and not the goal song. And more families have actually complained about that particular chant.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:20 AM

Just R&R2. Didn't even mention another song. He also said that he believes if ownership wanted to eliminate something it should be the "whistle chant" and not the goal song. And more families have actually complained about that particular chant.

 

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:20 AM

That quote also prompted me to call my rep. He said that he looked at the results briefly and said that a NUMBER of fans are writing in Rock and Roll Part 2 and that it's an "overwhelming favorite". Said that he doesn't know if management will disregard the votes or not but because it's been so many fans requesting that song thinks they might not be able to...

 

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:31 AM

Man why are people so attached to R&Rpt2? Not only have we used it forever but it's been used to death in just about every other sport. It's not original at all anymore and IMO it's played out.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:32 AM

It ain't just HF judging by the very public backlash this is getting. I'm just tired of this whole thing, tired of the team giving in to the PC police, tired of the fans' outrageously over the top reaction, and dreading how bad the atmosphere is going to be when fans go scorched earth after every goal.
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:37 AM

Man why are people so attached to R&Rpt2? Not only have we used it forever but it's been used to death in just about every other sport. It's not original at all anymore and IMO it's played out.

You have to consider the types of people going batsh!t over this. From the things i've read, i don't know to be entertained or worried that there are people out there that actually think like this and you walk among them. It's scary if it's 100% genuine and not playing for effect.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:40 AM

Man why are people so attached to R&Rpt2? Not only have we used it forever but it's been used to death in just about every other sport. It's not original at all anymore and IMO it's played out.

 

Because you get to yell 'you suck!' after it.  


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:49 AM

You have to consider the types of people going batsh!t over this. From the things i've read, i don't know to be entertained or worried that there are people out there that actually think like this and you walk among them. It's scary if it's 100% genuine and not playing for effect.

 

Personally they are right. 100% right. We are focusing on the wrong thing.My rep was spot on. What we should be getting rid of is the whistle chant, which is 10x more offensive then the phrase "You Suck!" You can defend "You Suck" by saying what it really is: A synonyme of the word stinks. But Flyers swallow? You can't do that. Regardless this is a HOCKEY game. Not Disneyland. I understand wanting to be family friendly but this is completely misguided.

 

How about cutting off beer sales after the FIRST period instead of the end of the second? I'm tried of having beers thrown at me, Seeing drunks pick fights and all this nonsense.That's what management should crack down on to make the experience better for all...not the goal song.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:51 AM

Personally they are right. 100% right. We are focusing on the wrong thing.My rep was spot on. What we should be getting rid of is the whistle chant, which is 10x more offensive then the phrase "You Suck!" You can defend "You Suck" by saying what it really is: A synonyme of the word stinks. But Flyers swallow? You can't do that. Regardless this is a HOCKEY game. Not Disneyland. I understand wanting to be family friendly but this is completely misguided.

 

How about cutting off beer sales after the FIRST period instead of the end of the second? I'm tried of having beers thrown at me, Seeing drunks pick fights and all this nonsense.That's what management should crack down on to make the experience better for all...not the goal song.

 

I don't think many people get drunk off the beers at the games.  Mostly because of cost and selection of beers, I rarely see people have more than a couple.  The problem are all of the people pre-gaming in the parking lots, in the bars and on the trains before the game.  Most are already loaded as they walk into the arena.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:57 AM

 

 

How about cutting off beer sales after the FIRST period instead of the end of the second?

 

Hold on a second, that's going way too far....

 

Edit: Who in their right mind would throw beer.  It is too expensive to waste.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:04 PM

It ain't just HF judging by the very public backlash this is getting. I'm just tired of this whole thing, tired of the team giving in to the PC police, tired of the fans' outrageously over the top reaction, and dreading how bad the atmosphere is going to be when fans go scorched earth after every goal.

 

I wonder how many other fanbases are this attached to their goal songs.  I liked R&R Part 2, many of the Devils' best and most memorable moments are punctuated by it...but damn, I never expected fans to freak out over it THIS much...granted, part of it is stemming from the very corporate way this was handled (no matter how you look at this, Devils did fire the first salvo here...if they had done initially what they're doing NOW, this could've been considerably less painful), but they've at least tried to go about the change in a better manner now.  Some franchises would've pretended not to hear. 

 

I don't even know what it is anymore that people are so freaked out about.  Losing the song?  Not being able to say "you suck"?  The initial way the song was sacked?  Just hating the idea of being dictated to, on any level, and this is their way of saying "We're not going to take it anymore"? 

 

And yeah, the fact that many fans are going to be pissed after the Devils score...life at the Devils' games is going to feel very alternate-universe for a while.   


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:06 PM

Personally they are right. 100% right. We are focusing on the wrong thing.My rep was spot on. What we should be getting rid of is the whistle chant, which is 10x more offensive then the phrase "You Suck!" You can defend "You Suck" by saying what it really is: A synonyme of the word stinks. But Flyers swallow? You can't do that. Regardless this is a HOCKEY game. Not Disneyland. I understand wanting to be family friendly but this is completely misguided.

 

How about cutting off beer sales after the FIRST period instead of the end of the second? I'm tried of having beers thrown at me, Seeing drunks pick fights and all this nonsense.That's what management should crack down on to make the experience better for all...not the goal song.

 

How can you get rid of a whistle chant? It happens the whole game. Are they going to station security around each section? Narcs?  It's not just the drunks. Some people are naturally dopey.

 

It doesn't matter if it's a hockey game, though. Do these people walk into a mall and carry on? A movie? Just because they pay to see a hockey game it gives someone the right to do what they want when they want? It's that sense of self entitlement and selfishness. If someone doesn't understand that by now how will they? My favorite of all this? The "If i can't say 'you suck'? Then F-you, i'll cancel my tickets and boycott the team". Scary stuff.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:38 PM

This has been mentioned many times but what if we're down 4-1 @ home, and we score another goal,  (R & R part 2 is played) We all yell "you suck" when it's us who sucks that particular night. 


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:44 PM

How can you get rid of a whistle chant? It happens the whole game. Are they going to station security around each section? Narcs?  It's not just the drunks. Some people are naturally dopey.

 

It doesn't matter if it's a hockey game, though. Do these people walk into a mall and carry on? A movie? Just because they pay to see a hockey game it gives someone the right to do what they want when they want? It's that sense of self entitlement and selfishness. If someone doesn't understand that by now how will they? My favorite of all this? The "If i can't say 'you suck'? Then F-you, i'll cancel my tickets and boycott the team". Scary stuff.

 

Well they do a similar thing at Red Bulls games. Security will kick out anyone chanting "obsene" chants. So it's not un-heard of. And cancelling your tickets might be a bit extreme but I look at it like this. People go for the atmopshere as much as the game itself. That seems reasonable enough. If the atmosphere is going to be deflated each game then that's a valid reason to cancel your tickets.  I agree that we are being fed horrible alternatives and being forced to put up with it. As fans and as PAYING customers we should be able to say to management "We want our old song back".

 

I rather see a "family friendly" section. Which has been done at other arenas.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:58 PM

Well they do a similar thing at Red Bulls games. Security will kick out anyone chanting "obsene" chants. So it's not un-heard of. And cancelling your tickets might be a bit extreme but I look at it like this. People go for the atmopshere as much as the game itself. That seems reasonable enough. If the atmosphere is going to be deflated each game then that's a valid reason to cancel your tickets. I agree that we are being fed horrible alternatives and being forced to put up with it. As fans and as PAYING customers we should be able to say to management "We want our old song back".

I rather see a "family friendly" section. Which has been done at other arenas.


Hard to have a family friendly section when most of the arena is chanting you suck.

Also that whole customer is always right saying is crap. Anyone who had ever spent time in retail knows this is not the case. Want affirmation? Just go check out notalwaysright.com. The stories there might sound unbelievable but they are pretty dead on to what I used to hear when I did retail. That saying is basically something jackass customers and professors teaching business THEORY like to spit out.
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:59 PM

Well they do a similar thing at Red Bulls games. Security will kick out anyone chanting "obsene" chants. So it's not un-heard of. And cancelling your tickets might be a bit extreme but I look at it like this. People go for the atmopshere as much as the game itself. That seems reasonable enough. If the atmosphere is going to be deflated each game then that's a valid reason to cancel your tickets.  I agree that we are being fed horrible alternatives and being forced to put up with it. As fans and as PAYING customers we should be able to say to management "We want our old song back".

 

I rather see a "family friendly" section. Which has been done at other arenas.

I think that's a good Idea.... Just the execution would be harder to pull off. Usually arena misbehavior is spread out, so they would have to figure out which section would be right. Honestly, as a kid, I sat at the top of continental airlines arena and was exposed to crazy stuff. There has to be an understanding that some crazy behavior is gonna happen as a parent. Its kinda like buying a kid an online video game. By putting them online with random people,they probably will be exposed to cursing and general stupid behavior. 


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