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#1021 iamtheprodigy

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:10 PM

That I agree should be montitored more. The chant that comes from the goal song is more or less "you suck" all by itself. I'm for rowdy behavior but I personally never liked the Flyers swallow, Crosby/Gomez watches chant. THAT'S lowbrow. Not "Hey You Suck".

 

This is how I always felt about it. To me, telling the other team they suck (or rallying together to remind ourselves that the Rangers suck) is just good fun. I always interpreted "suck" to mean "are bad at hockey". When a handful of people would continue with the "Flyers swallow" and "Avery watches" or whatever else at the end, I always kind of cringed at that. It's just stupid, there's no reason to turn it into some kind of weird sexual analogy that doesn't even make sense. It's about the other team being bad and us being good. Leave it at that.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:12 PM

A DVD I have of a Rockies/Blues game from January 1982 (a Rockies 7-1 win) in Colorado features them playing the song after goals.  No goal horn of any kind though (hard to believe they didn't exist once upon a time)...just the red light behind the net, then R&R Part 2.

 

They also played it as the team was coming on the ice in each period. 

 

Do you have any DVDs of any Devils games from the early/mid-Eighties?

 

I went to a bunch of games during the Devils first few seasons in New Jersey, but I can't remember if they even had a goal song back then.

 

The earliest Devils goal w/song included I found on YouTube is one from the 1991 playoffs in which they played RR Part 2.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:21 PM

This is how I always felt about it. To me, telling the other team they suck (or rallying together to remind ourselves that the Rangers suck) is just good fun. I always interpreted "suck" to mean "are bad at hockey". When a handful of people would continue with the "Flyers swallow" and "Avery watches" or whatever else at the end, I always kind of cringed at that. It's just stupid, there's no reason to turn it into some kind of weird sexual analogy that doesn't even make sense. It's about the other team being bad and us being good. Leave it at that.

 

Yeah agreed. That long trailing thing about Crosby and whatever crosses from 'haha your team is bad' to an uncomfortable obsession with male-on-male relations pretty quickly...


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:23 PM

First, thank you. I had always read it was for wins. Second, that sounds like an amazing DVD!!

 

I have a few DVDs of Rockies games, but home ones are hard to come by...that's the only home Rockies game I have...it was from an ESPN feed.  I have two more from Toronto (one win, one loss...one of them has Hardy Astrom starting, and he is every bit as bad as you may have heard), and another from LA (that one is brutal...a 10-3 loss...they were losing 2-0 before the game was even a minute old).  Kind of cool seeing Marcel Dionne in his prime though, and the purple-and-yellow Kings jerseys.  Also have the Rockies' (and franchise's) very first playoff game, a 3-2 OT loss to the Flyers in the Spectrum.  I think the Flyers came out pissed knowing that a team that won 19 games had somehow taken them to overtime...they ended the game in less than a minute.  Rockies' goalie Doug Favell played his ass off...think he made 42 saves.

 

What's great about Rockies-Blues DVD:

 

1) A lot of helmetless players.  And a lot of mustaches and poofy Ron Duguay-type hairstyles.  Kind of hard to believe people actually wanted to look like that on purpose.

2) A pretty good John Wensick fight (forget who he fought against at the moment).  I think Brent Ashton got into it with someone too.

3) Rockies whupped ass, which they pretty much never did (they won all of 18 games that season).  Bobby MacMillan scored four goals.  A line of Merlin Malinowski (who was playing himself into the doghouse after a breakout 1980-81 campaign...he'd be out of the league after the end of the 82-83 season), Don Lever, and MacMillan had a big day, tallying five of the Rockies' seven goals (Steve Tambellini and Brent Ashton scored the others).  Most of the hats thrown on the ice after MacMillan scored his third goal were cowboy hats. 

4) Great in-between-periods interview with Chico (he was suffering though his first full season with the Rockies, after having been dealt from the Islanders at the deadline the year before).  Really came off as stand-up and positive, though you could tell the constant losing was killing him.  He was asked about all of the rumors swirling about the Rockies' possible impending move (no one was sure where they were going to end up), and basically said it was on the players to not let it become a distraction, that no one was going to feel sorry for them. 

5) And of course, was great to hear R&R Part 2 being used as a goal song way before everyone else. 

 

 

Do you have any DVDs of any Devils games from the early/mid-Eighties?

 

I went to a bunch of games during the Devils first few seasons in New Jersey, but I can't remember if they even had a goal song back then.

 

The earliest Devils goal w/song included I found on YouTube is one from the 1991 playoffs in which they played RR Part 2.

 

I have the infamous Mickey Mouse game, but I'm not going to lie...I haven't watched it yet, because I can't bring myself to watch it.  I know it's from a different era, but the idea of watching a team score 13 goals on the Devils... :urg:  


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:28 PM

Well it's a little harder to get rid of that since it's fan-started and with random timing.  You basically have to start threatening and going through with ejections, and it's a little harder to eject 3/4 of the arena if everyone holds firm and does it.

 

Exactly my point.  It's possible to go after the goal song chant since they just have to change the goal song.

 

I'm glad it has a majority of the votes, it should. Fans hate change as it was said before...

 

Let me just take a quick pole though...if they were to bring it back, but only play it when the Devils were in the lead, or they took the lead with that goal, would you guys be open to that? I think it's a fair compromise...

 

I'm all for bringing it back if fans stop chanting "you suck".  I actually also suggested multiple goal songs for different situations.  

 

If we're behind, and we score a goal, I think this song or a similar song should be played.  Skip to 0:48.  http://www.youtube.c...h?v=H9JS5iSaTxo

If we're winning, I'm all for RR2 provided the fans don't chant you suck.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

I have a few DVDs of Rockies games, but home ones are hard to come by...that's the only home Rockies game I have...it was from an ESPN feed.  I have two more from Toronto (one win, one loss...one of them has Hardy Astrom starting, and he is every bit as bad as you may have heard), and another from LA (that one is brutal...a 10-3 loss...they were losing 2-0 before the game was even a minute old).  Kind of cool seeing Marcel Dionne in his prime though, and the purple-and-yellow Kings jerseys.  Also have the Rockies' (and franchise's) very first playoff game, a 3-2 OT loss to the Flyers in the Spectrum.  I think the Flyers came out pissed knowing that a team that won 19 games had somehow taken them to overtime...they ended the game in less than a minute.  Rockies' goalie Doug Favell played his ass off...think he made 42 saves.

 

What's great about Rockies-Blues DVD:

 

1) A lot of helmetless players.  And a lot of mustaches and poofy Ron Duguay-type hairstyles.  Kind of hard to believe people actually wanted to look like that on purpose.

2) A pretty good John Wensick fight (forget who he fought against at the moment).  I think Brent Ashton got into it with someone too.

3) Rockies whupped ass, which they pretty much never did (they won all of 18 games that season).  Bobby MacMillan scored four goals.  A line of Merlin Malinowski (who was playing himself into the doghouse after a breakout 1980-81 campaign...he'd be out of the league after the end of the 82-83 season), Don Lever, and MacMillan had a big day, tallying five of the Rockies' seven goals (Steve Tambellini and Brent Ashton scored the others).  Most of the hats thrown on the ice after MacMillan scored his third goal were cowboy hats. 

4) Great in-between-periods interview with Chico (he was suffering though his first full season with the Rockies, after having been dealt from the Islanders at the deadline the year before).  Really came off as stand-up and positive, though you could tell the constant losing was killing him.  He was asked about all of the rumors swirling about the Rockies' possible impending move (no one was sure where they were going to end up), and basically said it was on the players to not let it become a distraction, that no one was going to feel sorry for them. 

5) And of course, was great to hear R&R Part 2 being used as a goal song way before everyone else. 

 

 

 

I have the infamous Mickey Mouse game, but I'm not going to lie...I haven't watched it yet, because I can't bring myself to watch it.  I know it's from a different era, but the idea of watching a team score 13 goals on the Devils... :urg:  

 

I went to the first Devils home game versus the Oilers after the infamous Mickey Mouse game (which was in Edmonton). Many of the fans wore Mickey Mouse ears to the arena, and the crowd was razzing Gretzky all night long. Even though the Devs lost that game too, it was a very close contest and a hell of a lot of fun.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:58 PM

I'm glad it has a majority of the votes, it should. Fans hate change as it was said before...

 

Let me just take a quick pole though...if they were to bring it back, but only play it when the Devils were in the lead, or they took the lead with that goal, would you guys be open to that? I think it's a fair compromise...

Not a chance of that happening.  The idea is to make the atmosphere more family-friendly, not to make chants more factually-accurate, and if they played the song only when the Devils were winning, they would pretty much be encouraging fans to yell "you suck."


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:05 PM

Oh please. Some of my earliest memories as a child are my cousin letting me play Mortal Kombat because my Mom refused to buy it. I GUARANTEE that 99% of children who are attending Devils games, have heard MUCH worse. And plus, if you sit not in the 200s or just don't go when it's super cheap $20 college a$$hole night, you'll be fine anyways.

It's not that I don't understand your point, as I will temper my language if there's kids around, I'll still jeer the opposing team, but I'm not gonna drop f bombs, but kids aren't being scarred or exposed to something they haven't already been exposed to when they hear the word "suck", so unless the goal is to eliminate all dirty words from being spoken, how is the goal of protecting the children being achieved?

 

Learning to carry yourself in a public place in a proper manner. The problem is you get fools who think buying a ticket gives them the right to turn the arena into their own personal living room. Then they boycott the team when their hands are slapped like a bunch of spoiled brats. 


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:28 PM

Learning to carry yourself in a public place in a proper manner. The problem is you get fools who think buying a ticket gives them the right to turn the arena into their own personal living room. Then they boycott the team when their hands are slapped like a bunch of spoiled brats. 

 

This.  Under no circumstance does the consumer have the right to tell the business owner how to run their business.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

This thread just goes around in circles. They want a family friendly atmosphere at games, how about we start scoring more goals than our opponents. Saturday night is going to be UGLY.
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:10 PM

 

I have the infamous Mickey Mouse game, but I'm not going to lie...I haven't watched it yet, because I can't bring myself to watch it.  I know it's from a different era, but the idea of watching a team score 13 goals on the Devils... :urg:  

 

Hah, they showed the highlights of that on MSG a while back.  It was actually somewhat of a Back To the Future moment seeing Doc and JD do the p/by/p.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

Look I've been in favor of R&R Pt. 2 throughout this thread....but honestly IT DOESN'T MATTER UNLESS THEY SCORE!


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:43 PM

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:46 PM

I'm going on Saturday.  Please don't let it be more than 25% Rags fans.  I fully expect us to light up Queenie so we can hear the song several times.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

I think Devil fans will show up just to boo the goal song.  If it wasn't for that it'd probably be 50-50 or worse.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:07 PM

And the curse of the changed goal song continues.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:16 PM

I'm going on Saturday.  Please don't let it be more than 25% Rags fans.  I fully expect us to light up Queenie so we can hear the song several times.

i dont know how many devil ranger games youve been to at the rock but uh FYI its usually around a 50/40ish split of fans... and with the team doing horrible who knows
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:18 PM

i dont know how many devil ranger games youve been to at the rock but uh FYI its usually around a 50/40ish split of fans... and with the team doing horrible who knows

 

It hasn't been close to 60/40 in years.  It's at most 20% Rags fans these days.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:23 PM

if you say so... look around saturday.. guarantee theres a lot more blue then 20% of the seats in the arena.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:49 PM

Learning to carry yourself in a public place in a proper manner. The problem is you get fools who think buying a ticket gives them the right to turn the arena into their own personal living room. Then they boycott the team when their hands are slapped like a bunch of spoiled brats. 

Yes, but that's going to happen no matter what. I went to a college night game last year, we were playing Carolina and lost. Some drunk idiot was yelling at the one Carolina fan in our section all night. You suck this, you suck that. It was non-stop swearing and dick jokes. It sucked and after a while I got up and told him to shut the fvck up about his dick because there were kids near by, but then his drunk gf started yelling.

My point is, it happens, it's unavoidable when you have alcohol and young people. As I left the game, I said to the guy, "look man, I'm just trying to watch the game and I don't need commentary all night". I think he got the point, it didn't start a fight, I didn't call him names. Maybe he'll not be an a$$hole next time, maybe he will. Either way, this type of thing isn't going to be prevented by changing the goal song, so what's the point?


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