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#1221 NJDEVS1730

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

Actually just sent off a thought out and polite, but strongly worded email to their "Game Experience" group today. Just stating my feelings on the song matter, why it seems they chose to deviate from RnR2 and the tone that public letter to the fans set. Sounds like I got a response in the form of a call back on voicemail but I'm not really interested in discussing it with them. I said my peace and that's that. I know any argument I give them is just going to be beating a horse with them when they've already made up their mind to start this "crackdown" on language used in the stands and I won't get anywhere with them. Maybe when they start implementing whatever they have planned and it pisses off enough people they'll realize they should just back off and stop trying to tell everyone what to say or do. I'm fine with change as long as it's for the right reasons, but it seems the reasons the management is choosing are a little absurd. They care more about the uptight parents' and their kids hearing an occasional bit of adult language than the vast majority of fans who just like to let loose and have a good time. I have never been advocating the guy who every other word out of his mouth is a swear, or someone being obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious to other fans, but there's nothing wrong with joining a silly chant more than half the arena is joining in, or when an idiot Ranger or Flyer fan gets escorted out for trying to start a fight joining in the "a$$hole" jeer, or whatever. As long as it doesn't get out of hand and doesn't lead to violence or just doing something solely to get a rise out of someone else, there's no need for crackdowns and strict enforcement of conduct rules and all that. Even the whistle tune is fine. If you don't like it, don't participate, nobody's asking you to and no one is going to think less of you if you choose not to. Going around calling it "classless" and "degrading to the fanbase" and "embarrasing" just annoys people the same way those who do this kind of thing annoy you. it goes both ways

 

see this way of thinking I can understand and respect...

 

This. To the owners: It's a freaking hockey game...get over it!!


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:02 PM

This. To the owners: It's a freaking hockey game...get over it!!

 

To fans still whining about the goal song: It's a freaking hockey game...get over it!!


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:38 PM

To fans still whining about the goal song: It's a freaking hockey game...get over it!!

 

But but but, fans are the ones who put their hard earned money into the owners' pockets!11111111!!!1!!!!1!


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

But but but, fans are the ones who put their hard earned money into the owners' pockets!11111111!!!1!!!!1!

owners feel they will attract a bigger and broader group of fans by eliminating the chant... to ultimately put more money into their pockets.
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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:16 AM

Saw this on HF and the response given is actually my feelings as well... If the new owners really think a hockey game will ever be a completely "family friendly" environment, with "please" and "thank you" and mutual respect between opposing fans, they are seriously mistaken.
 
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100% seriously, if any Diablos are observed saying you suck or Rangers suck or anything with any kind of vulgar words... we get tosses and our whole season of tickets is cancelled.

If they really follow through with that then they are opening up one of the biggest cans of worms I have ever seen. They are doing everything so ass backwards, its hysterical. If they really want people to sit in there seats peacefully like there Gandhi or only want them to participate in cheesy "Lets Go Devils" type chants then they are absolutely clueless when it comes to hockey atmospheres.

 

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This too, especially the last sentence:

 

The volatility of a STH base is very highly dependent on the success of any team. So by strength I pretty much just mean number. All things considered, 12k STH is far more than what Hugh had to work with in New Orleans. He was working with 5-6k. He was in a situation where he had to resort to walking down the streets and asking businesses to buy tickets.

The Devils are not at that stage. He forged a family-friendly and community atmosphere by using the Hurricane, community, unity as a battle cry. It worked. It FIT New Orleans. That model does NOT fit New Jersey. Yes Sandy was awful but it's not the same here. Nowhere near the same.

So why is this guy using the same model, practically, for an organization with far more stability than a team who could have moved very literally the following year?

If your job is to "build a fan base" and you derp your way around a goal song and learn that 90% of the fans want it, why are you going to piss off 90% of your fans? THE MERITS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ADMIRABLE OR STUPID FOR PEOPLE TO DROP TICKETS ASIDE. If people are mad, threatening to leave, if your team is awful - why in the world are you forcing the issue?

He's not doing his job. His job isn't PC police. It's to increase our fan base. He should be going to colleges in NJ and bringing NJ and the cheerleaders, handing out vouchers. He should be going to Rutgers football games, concerts in the area, sponsoring charities and walks targeted at the youth (you know, the people who will pay the bills in 3-4 years).

You have to adapt to your situation. Know your demographic. Hockey IS NOT a family-friendly sport.


Edited by Legion15, 24 October 2013 - 11:22 AM.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:24 AM

Dillinger Escape Plan is also from New Jersey. https://www.youtube....h?v=Zv8b6RPbnAc  :)

 

It'd be awesome if they did a song for the Devils like Darkest Hour did for the Caps

https://www.youtube....h?v=z72AxNmNe4E

 

Personally, I always wished that the Devils would play some tunes by Jersey-based Thrash metal veterans Overkill. They have a bunch of songs that would be perfect for certain in-game situations, such as "Powersurge" (if the Devs are making a great comeback), "Union We Stand" (if the Devs are fighting for their lives in the playoffs, such as going into a Game 7 or at the end of any game where the outcome is in doubt), "Wrecking Crew" (either before any game or during the game if the Devs are putting a beatdown on someone, ie. the Rangers or Flyers), or "Who Tends the Fire" (as they take the ice or actually at any stoppage of play).

 

An added bonus: their lead singer is an avid Devils fan.

 

I'd love to see the team take the ice to the beginning of this song):

 

 

Yeah, I'm on old metalhead, so sue me, haha.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:56 PM

Anybody know what the song is tonight?
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Posted 24 October 2013 - 03:44 PM

Anybody know what the song is tonight?

"Whatever we can play that nobody can make a chant for" probably.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:34 PM

Anybody know what the song is tonight?

 

My guess is the fans voted for Light Em Up.

 

 

Owners suggested this:

 

 

 

 

 

Let's see who wins!


Edited by Devil Dan 56, 24 October 2013 - 04:35 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:53 PM

My guess is the horrible Ole song.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:00 PM

 

Saw this on HF and the response given is actually my feelings as well... If the new owners really think a hockey game will ever be a completely "family friendly" environment, with "please" and "thank you" and mutual respect between opposing fans, they are seriously mistaken.
 
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Originally Posted by njdevil26 viewpost.gif
100% seriously, if any Diablos are observed saying you suck or Rangers suck or anything with any kind of vulgar words... we get tosses and our whole season of tickets is cancelled.

If they really follow through with that then they are opening up one of the biggest cans of worms I have ever seen. They are doing everything so ass backwards, its hysterical. If they really want people to sit in there seats peacefully like there Gandhi or only want them to participate in cheesy "Lets Go Devils" type chants then they are absolutely clueless when it comes to hockey atmospheres.

 

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This too, especially the last sentence:

 

The volatility of a STH base is very highly dependent on the success of any team. So by strength I pretty much just mean number. All things considered, 12k STH is far more than what Hugh had to work with in New Orleans. He was working with 5-6k. He was in a situation where he had to resort to walking down the streets and asking businesses to buy tickets.

The Devils are not at that stage. He forged a family-friendly and community atmosphere by using the Hurricane, community, unity as a battle cry. It worked. It FIT New Orleans. That model does NOT fit New Jersey. Yes Sandy was awful but it's not the same here. Nowhere near the same.

So why is this guy using the same model, practically, for an organization with far more stability than a team who could have moved very literally the following year?

If your job is to "build a fan base" and you derp your way around a goal song and learn that 90% of the fans want it, why are you going to piss off 90% of your fans? THE MERITS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ADMIRABLE OR STUPID FOR PEOPLE TO DROP TICKETS ASIDE. If people are mad, threatening to leave, if your team is awful - why in the world are you forcing the issue?

He's not doing his job. His job isn't PC police. It's to increase our fan base. He should be going to colleges in NJ and bringing NJ and the cheerleaders, handing out vouchers. He should be going to Rutgers football games, concerts in the area, sponsoring charities and walks targeted at the youth (you know, the people who will pay the bills in 3-4 years).

You have to adapt to your situation. Know your demographic. Hockey IS NOT a family-friendly sport.

 

 

I'm sorry but hockey is a family friendly sport .  After all if it wasn't a family friendly sport it would never grow in popularity, nor would any of us be hockey fans bc if it was not a family friendly sport we prob wouldn't have been at games as a kid.  Are there some teams that are more family friendly then others, yes, BUT IN ORDER TO GROW YOUR FAN BASE YOU NEED TO BE FAMILY-FRIENDLY.  I just find it funny how people are so upset because they cant chant an UNORIGINAL,CHILDISH "you suck".   GROW UP!, there are bigger things to worry about that, and if you feel that strongly about it DON't GO.  (and in case your wondering I'm 26, so I'm in the under 30 demographic that people label as being part of the you suck chant)     


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:05 PM

I'm sorry but hockey is a family friendly sport . After all if it wasn't a family friendly sport it would never grow in popularity, nor would any of us be hockey fans bc if it was not a family friendly sport we prob wouldn't have been at games as a kid. Are there some teams that are more family friendly then others, yes, BUT IN ORDER TO GROW YOUR FAN BASE YOU NEED TO BE FAMILY-FRIENDLY. I just find it funny how people are so upset because they cant chant an UNORIGINAL,CHILDISH "you suck". GROW UP!, there are bigger things to worry about that, and if you feel that strongly about it DON't GO. (and in case your wondering I'm 26, so I'm in the under 30 demographic that people label as being part of the you suck chant)


Wish there were more people like you around in the under 30 crowd

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

Booing again after both goals. apparently from section 209.

 

Some of our fans are absolutely pathetic.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:29 PM

Booing again after both goals. apparently from section 209.

 

Some of our fans are absolutely pathetic.

 

It was just one section last time too with the You Suck chant.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:32 PM

What song did they use today? I always forget to listen.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:38 PM

What song did they use today? I always forget to listen.

 

Righteous Smoke by Monster Truck.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:53 PM

Seems like theyre doing a real good job getting people in the building
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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:34 PM

no votes are being taken into consideration, all ranger-esque goal song will be accepted by mr oneillssst.gif


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

Seems like theyre doing a real good job getting people in the building

 

The goal song is not why there was only 13,302 people in the arena tonight.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:40 PM

The goal song is not why there was only 13,302 people in the arena tonight.

No, the reason there was no one there is zero marketing effort and awful fan relations. But the song has nothing to do with that, obviously.
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