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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:45 AM

the bad atmosphere wasn't because of the YOU SUCK or lack of it. There was nobody there at all last night. Even the upper deck was half empty. There were still doofuses trying to put in you suck into the new song (and embarrassing themselves more than usual) but the bad atmosphere wasn't because of the lack of R&R pt 2 as much as you'd like it to be because of that. It's because the team stinks and nobody's excited and there was nobody there


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

the bad atmosphere wasn't because of the YOU SUCK or lack of it. There was nobody there at all last night. Even the upper deck was half empty. There were still doofuses trying to put in you suck into the new song (and embarrassing themselves more than usual) but the bad atmosphere wasn't because of the lack of R&R pt 2 as much as you'd like it to be because of that. It's because the team stinks and nobody's excited and there was nobody there

 

Bingo.

 

When I was walking out of the arena last night, I heard a couple guys saying to each other it is because of R&R pt 2 not being played is why they lost at home.  Their reason was that the song "intimidates" the other team.

 

I turned around to see if they were joking but by the looks on their faces they were dead serious.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:49 AM

Our team loses Kovalchuk, Parise, and Clarkson in a matter of one season. The "bandwagon effect" from 2012 has officially worn off, BIG TIME. The average-Joe bandwagon hockey fan doesn't even know half the roster anymore, their jerseys are outdated, etc...

 

And chronic losing definitely doesn't help.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

Seven Nation Army is gonna be the song. Just a hunch.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:51 AM

Our team loses Kovalchuk, Parise, and Clarkson in a matter of one season. The "bandwagon effect" from 2012 has officially worn off, BIG TIME. The average-Joe bandwagon hockey fan doesn't even know half the roster anymore, their jerseys are outdated, etc...

 

And chronic losing definitely doesn't help.

 

People have complained about this?


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:54 AM

Bingo.

 

When I was walking out of the arena last night, I heard a couple guys saying to each other it is because of R&R pt 2 not being played is why they lost at home.  Their reason was that the song "intimidates" the other team.

 

I turned around to see if they were joking but by the looks on their faces they were dead serious.

 

 

There's no way to prove him wrong just as much as there's no way to prove him right.

 

You don't think hearing an arena chant "YOU SUCK!" in unison gets in the head of a goalie or a coach or a player, even just a little bit?

 

It was loud and clear during the Devils-Flyers preseason game and Steve Mason's play went from bad to worse to worst pretty quickly. It was embarrassing. Just saying...


People have complained about this?

 

No, the jerseys are a small part of it. I'm just saying the average bandwagon fan that we picked up along the 2011-2012 run doesn't really have any interest or knowledge of the new roster. Don't underestimate the amount of teen and young adult girls who thought Parise, Kovalchuk, and Clarkson were the heart throbs of the league. I know it sounds dumb, but that's extra jerseys sold and butts in the seats. It's all these obviously little trivial things that are compounding to affect our attendance negatively. And losing definitely doesn't help.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:57 AM

The stiff atmosphere had more to do in the fact that it was October against a team, while somewhat high-profile, we don't have a rivalry with, only see at the Rock at most once a year and on a weekday night.  Also add that the Devils do not have a high-profile player in his prime playing with them anymore and the team hasn't been lighting their opponents up this season. Not only that but the Devils have seemed to cut down on the free or discounted ticket giveaways so that probably cut about another 1,000 people from going.

 

I think the new management is still feeling things out as they will soon learn a one-size approach to catering to crowds is not the best way.  However, they do in fact have the right to tell you how to behave the minute you walk in as it is indeed THEIR building.

 

Agree on the bolded, but they have gone about it all wrong from the very moment someone decided the atmosphete needed to change.  There's a divide growing that was never there before, and these guys should've at least recognized that the previous owner, for all of his faults, had the "true Devils fan" side to his personality that made him a guy fans could relate to.  And even though John McMullen could be pretty cold (as can Lou), McMullen had Jersey ties. 

 

Right now you've got a bit of a perfect storm brewing, with the team not playing well for roughly a half-season's worth of games, one of the remaining long-time faces of the franchise in Brodeur looking like he's not going to play much in the foreseeable future (and who may not play well when he does get to play...clearly this is not easy for Devils fans to accept), a bunch of new names that fans are still warming up to, some current names that aren't really producing (Henrique and Zajac)...and on top of all of that, now we've got an ownership group who seems to want to put their stamp on fan behavior, with no real plan on how to do it. 

 

I fully believe the franchise WILL get through all of this, but I don't think ownership is making it any easier.  


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:05 PM

People have complained about this?

Believe it or not, I actually heard the guy behind me saying they need to modernize the jerseys.  At least his buddy disagreed with him.

 

You don't think hearing an arena chant "YOU SUCK!" in unison gets in the head of a goalie or a coach or a player, even just a little bit?

 

It was loud and clear during the Devils-Flyers preseason game and Steve Mason's play went from bad to worse to worst pretty quickly. It was embarrassing. Just saying...

Honestly, I really don't think so.  These guys are pros, many of them probably heard worse chanted towards them at away arenas before they reached the NHL.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:15 PM

Believe it or not, I actually heard the guy behind me saying they need to modernize the jerseys.  At least his buddy disagreed with him.

 

Honestly, I really don't think so.  These guys are pros, many of them probably heard worse chanted towards them at away arenas before they reached the NHL.

 

Sadly, this is something I can see this ownership group doing within the next three seasons, I really can.  A third jersey (that's not an X-mas one), at the very least.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:19 PM

Our team loses Kovalchuk, Parise, and Clarkson in a matter of one season.

 

AKA 2 seasons


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:37 PM

Sadly, this is something I can see this ownership group doing within the next three seasons, I really can. A third jersey (that's not an X-mas one), at the very least.


Agree on this being a real possibility. With Lou now gone from the business side of things, this can now go on without really much to say from Lou

Lou has been really against third jerseys for years. Hell just to bring back the Christmas ones took JVB to really force it through Lou as Lou has said in the past at jerseys shows he doesn't like the old colors because it represents the "old losing devils." I think Lou gave in as it wasn't really a huge step in a different direction at all and we are far enough removed from the switch in 92 that its basically a distant memory now. However I can see Lou possibly drawing a line with the ownership and new CEO if a completely different jersey is force upon his team and we could see some behind the scenes fireworks going on.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:40 PM

Sadly, this is something I can see this ownership group doing within the next three seasons, I really can.  A third jersey (that's not an X-mas one), at the very least.

 

Our jerseys are among the best non original six jerseys in the league. Doesn't need "modernizing" at all. I don't want to see the Devils becoming "that team" that has a different jersey scheme every five years.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:49 PM

Our jerseys are among the best non original six jerseys in the league. Doesn't need "modernizing" at all. I don't want to see the Devils becoming "that team" that has a different jersey scheme every five years.

 

Me neither, and I wouldn't touch the current ones, but I am starting to get the gut feeling that this ownership truly wants to make the Devils THEIR own. 


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:51 PM

To go from finally packing home games with loud crowds, to this...and it's only October

Exactly. We fought for years and years, withstood decades of an awful location and ownership unwilling to do anything to raise the exposure of this team in the community and get people in the building, we FINALLY broke through. The place was packed every night for a pretty terrible team. And we were seeing a real transition. I was never prouder to be a Devils fan when I saw a sold out place absolutely rocking for weekday games against not so high profile opppsition. It took 30 years to realize, and it took a summer and three games for it to come crashing down.
And with the culture of our crowd, all of the constant, organic chants that echoed through the building from the drop of the puck until the end of the third, theres not a better building in hockey when its full.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:00 PM

Me neither, and I wouldn't touch the current ones, but I am starting to get the gut feeling that this ownership truly wants to make the Devils THEIR own. 

 

I shudder to think what management wants to make the Devils. Ugh. This team needs/needed a rich version of Vanderbeek. Not this.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:06 PM

Agree on this being a real possibility. With Lou now gone from the business side of things, this can now go on without really much to say from Lou

Lou has been really against third jerseys for years. Hell just to bring back the Christmas ones took JVB to really force it through Lou as Lou has said in the past at jerseys shows he doesn't like the old colors because it represents the "old losing devils." I think Lou gave in as it wasn't really a huge step in a different direction at all and we are far enough removed from the switch in 92 that its basically a distant memory now. However I can see Lou possibly drawing a line with the ownership and new CEO if a completely different jersey is force upon his team and we could see some behind the scenes fireworks going on.

There is nothing I can imagine that could be worse than if they ever changed the jerseys. 3rd jersey's SUCK unless they're actual jersey's from the past. Even then it's eh.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:15 PM

There is nothing I can imagine that could be worse than if they ever changed the jerseys. 3rd jersey's SUCK unless they're actual jersey's from the past. Even then it's eh.

 

The worst part is due with the NHL's contract with Reebok, any design changes would most definitely have and would require input from Reebok "designers."  I shudder at even thinking what that brain trust would come up with.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:16 PM

I shudder to think what management wants to make the Devils. Ugh. This team needs/needed a rich version of Vanderbeek. Not this.

But it's better to be in bankruptcy and league controlled rather then get your way with a goal song, a juvenile chant and a bunch of imaginary thoughts and fears about things that aren't even feasible right now like uniforms. OK!  :thumbsup:


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:18 PM

But it's better to be in bankruptcy and league controlled rather then get your way with a goal song, a juvenile chant and a bunch of imaginary thoughts and fears about things that aren't even feasible right now like uniforms. OK!  :thumbsup:

 

This is the way I see it for the most part.  I mean I'd rather have some stiff suits run the team than a guy who while as nice as he is, can barely hold on to the team and is nickel and diming everything.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:18 PM

I'd love to see the retros come back more then once. Maybe once a month. In today's NHL style they look too good to wear only once.


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