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#1341 PWW

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

I agree. The atmosphere was night was pretty horrid. I know people want their goal song back but I found it very disrespectful people boo'ing after each goal cause they didn't like the fvcking song. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

 

I was more annoyed that I felt like I had time traveled back to the Brendan Byrne Arena. I swear, with the music that was played and dead crowd, I was looking around expecting to see mullets as far as the eye could see, or at least some 80's teased hair. It was borderline depressing.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:13 PM

There's no talk about Nascar fan conduct because no one outside of the ingroup gives a sh!t about it.

 

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http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KC1cfgbowUg

You really think the NHL is still a big 4 sport? That anyone outside of the hardcore fans give a crap in the US? The NHL is sadly a cult fullowing sport in the US now with it's hardcore fans and it's struggle to gain the casual. It's not a big 4 sport anymore. NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the country.

 

Go and see how many times NASCAR fan behavior made ESPN headlines. Then go look at MLB, euro soccer and the NFL.  


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:16 PM

You really think the NHL is still a big 4 sport? That anyone outside of the hardcore fans give a crap in the US? The NHL is sadly a cult fullowing sport in the US now with it's hardcore fans and it's struggle to gain the casual. It's not a big 4 sport anymore. NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the country.

 

Go and see how many times NASCAR fan behavior made ESPN headlines. Then go look at MLB, euro soccer and the NFL.  

 

First of all, it's not, the NFL is by a mile.  Giants Vikings did 13M viewers, and that game was the sh!ts.   Last week's race did 5M viewers.

 

Secondly, like I said, it's not going to make headlines because no one cares.  It's not a big story if some rednecks punch each other at/during a race.  Just like that busload of awful Flyer fans that ended up fighting each other when they got dropped off in Bucks County.   If you think people don't go to the races and get drunk and act out I don't know what to tell you.   I mean the last time they were in Pocono, someone got arrested with 500 bags of heroin on them.    Even if they weren't using, obviously SOMEONE was there if you'd bring that much with you.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:19 PM

I was more annoyed that I felt like I had time traveled back to the Brendan Byrne Arena. I swear, with the music that was played and dead crowd, I was looking around expecting to see mullets as far as the eye could see, or at least some 80's teased hair. It was borderline depressing.

Thank God I wasn't alive to see that lol. But I guess I got a taste of it last night cept the Prudential is beautiful while the CAA is ugly as fvck.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:29 PM

First of all, it's not, the NFL is by a mile.  Giants Vikings did 13M viewers, and that game was the sh!ts.   Last week's race did 5M viewers.

 

Secondly, like I said, it's not going to make headlines because no one cares.  It's not a big story if some rednecks punch each other at/during a race.  Just like that busload of awful Flyer fans that ended up fighting each other when they got dropped off in Bucks County.   If you think people don't go to the races and get drunk and act out I don't know what to tell you.   I mean the last time they were in Pocono, someone got arrested with 500 bags of heroin on them.    Even if they weren't using, obviously SOMEONE was there if you'd bring that much with you.

NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the US. Look it up, it's not an argument. It's slipping, but it's still #1. 

 

Most fan problems in sports are minor and amount to nothing but an over night stay in county or fine. Some are criminally charged. How many of the criminal charges with fans of NASCAR makes ESPN? And ESPN will report it, they are NASCAR's sugar daddy. They report if Jeff Gordon has a hangnail and the always entertaining driver fights.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

I voted for Sweetness by Jimmy Eat World too.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:35 PM

NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the US. Look it up, it's not an argument. It's slipping, but it's still #1. 

 

Most fan problems in sports are minor and amount to nothing but an over night stay in county or fine. Some are criminally charged. How many of the criminal charges with fans of NASCAR makes ESPN? And ESPN will report it, they are NASCAR's sugar daddy. They report if Jeff Gordon has a hangnail and the always entertaining driver fights.

 

No, it's not the most popular spectator sport.   At most they can do 100-150K a week.  The NFL does 500K a week upwards.   And by TV viewers, it's not even close.     They might be right that they can stuff more people in one given place at one given time, but that doesn't make it the most "popular".    It's a regional sport that's a curiosity everywhere else.   They do huge TV numbers in a blob from the midwest to Florida, but not so much in the big markets.   But hey, NBC forked over a bajillion dollars for them too, so whatever works.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:47 PM

No, it's not the most popular spectator sport.   At most they can do 100-150K a week.  The NFL does 500K a week upwards.   And by TV viewers, it's not even close.     They might be right that they can stuff more people in one given place at one given time, but that doesn't make it the most "popular".    It's a regional sport that's a curiosity everywhere else.   They do huge TV numbers in a blob from the midwest to Florida, but not so much in the big markets.   But hey, NBC forked over a bajillion dollars for them too, so whatever works.

 

add in college football with B1G stadiums at Michigan/PSU/whoever with 100K plus stadiums every week and it's a joke that nascar calls itself that


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:51 PM

some people in here literally are the type to talk just to hear themselves talk my god.. no one cares about fvcking nascar in here or how many people are watching it.. this thread was about a goal song change.. if you have an issue with peoples language cover your ears or stay the hell home and never leave.. i dont know what to tell you.. watch the news youll see way worse sh!t then someone saying you suck at a hockey game.. have fun explaining that to your kid. Fact of the matter is the team got sold and they changed the song yes it happened lets all understand and accept it already.. is what it is certainly is NOT going to stop people from saying what ever they want at a hockey game and way worse language then the word suck.. being a little bitch isnt going to get anyone anywhere in life and if your that soft to bitch about someone saying the word suck or saying someone sucks at a sporting event get over yourself or you will get mugged as soon as you step out side of your mothers pants and realize how bad it really is out there.
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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:57 AM

First off, you are having a terrible time understanding that I mostly agree with your point about it being their building and their decision. I'm saying they are doing an awful and overly heavy-handed job of putting their ideas into action. You can't please everyone, but they have to understand they are going from pleasing one group to IMMEDIATELY pleasing another with no transition process. This will create backlash. It's natural. The only voice fans have, other than their physical voice which is now being silenced, is their wallet.

 

Not to mention the group they're pleasing is the clear minority and they're annoying the vast majority.  This is what's comical about this thread and the one on HF, the minority refuses to believe they are a minority when it's clear as day.

 

A person does not have the right to make a public place, be it a game or a visit to the mall or food store, their own personal living room to do and say what they want.

 

How difficult is this, really, to understand? 

 

That's not the issue here.  They're free to enact any rule they want, just like fans are free not to buy a ticket if they don't like it.  

 

The issue is whether they're needlessly poisoning the atmosphere by starting an adversarial relationship with the fans over something a majority of them do not find offensive.  Not to mention the way they've gone about this has engendered even more of a lack of trust than the actions themselves.  

 

And it wasn't just changing the goal song at the last minute without telling anyone that's caused the lack of trust either, the new broker rules (which they also didn't tell anyone about beforehand) also affected a number of people like Satans Hockey.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 09:54 AM

Not to mention the group they're pleasing is the clear minority and they're annoying the vast majority. This is what's comical about this thread and the one on HF, the minority refuses to believe they are a minority when it's clear as day.


That's not the issue here. They're free to enact any rule they want, just like fans are free not to buy a ticket if they don't like it.

The issue is whether they're needlessly poisoning the atmosphere by starting an adversarial relationship with the fans over something a majority of them do not find offensive. Not to mention the way they've gone about this has engendered even more of a lack of trust than the actions themselves.

And it wasn't just changing the goal song at the last minute without telling anyone that's caused the lack of trust either, the new broker rules (which they also didn't tell anyone about beforehand) also affected a number of people like Satans Hockey.


So just because the pro you suck chant people are whining louder on a couple of forums makes them a clear majority? I know a ton of people who are happy that they don't have to hear that chant again. They are not saying anything because they are satisfied and have nothing else to say.

People were booing the goal song on Thursday, but it wasn't all that much at all. Just mostly a couple of sections.
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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:28 AM

So just because the pro you suck chant people are whining louder on a couple of forums makes them a clear majority? I know a ton of people who are happy that they don't have to hear that chant again. They are not saying anything because they are satisfied and have nothing else to say.

People were booing the goal song on Thursday, but it wasn't all that much at all. Just mostly a couple of sections.

 

I didn't see all these protests last year or any other year they had the song.  If both sides were even close to being equal in number I'd think there would have been nine billion posts, tweets, calls, e-mails protesting the song last year but there weren't.

 

The other night nobody was making any noise period.  Opening Night it was pretty clear what side was the majority.  I didn't see thousands of people booing the song last year.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:46 AM

There's a difference in passion between the two sides, obviously.  No one who was against the goal song (at least here) was stridently against it, but I know there are posters here who didn't like the You Suck chant (including me) and the debate would come up here once every six months.  I think the fact that the song has long association with the team even before the dumb chant was added to it means Devils fans have a fondness for it.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

I cant wrap my head around people who just have no understanding about the value of tradition.
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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:42 PM

I cant wrap my head around people who just have no understanding about the value of tradition.

 

Gotta think of the children brah.

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:45 PM

just thought of the perfect song after reading some of this thread......Let it Be


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:47 PM

just thought of the perfect song after reading some of this thread......Let it Be

 

I always liked the suggestion of "You Can't Always Get What You Want" By the Rolling Stones.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:51 PM

I always liked the suggestion of "You Can't Always Get What You Want" By the Rolling Stones.

I suggested that on page 59 of this thread !!!!!

 

this topic just wont end


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:57 PM

Let me explain. I am going to lump you in with your age group. Why? First, it's whom you're defending and arguing back at. Second, you are either very "pro-suck" or you're doing a god awful job of fence sitting. You're not alone, so don't think it's just you. There's a few other people here are doing it in the vain attempts at being neutral and coy trying to see both sides yet having an opinion(s) that sway one way. You can't see this argument/issue/problem from a neutral perspective. You're either on one side or the other. It's just one side leans heavily in one particular age group and it's undeniable when you read around and then see it at games.

 

But, i'll tell you one ignorant thing you did post which led to my comment. That shot at NASCAR not being a sport. NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the country. How many times is it on the national news in terms of fan behavior considering you've got 80,000+ people in one place nearly every weekend from Feb to (roughly) Oct? MLB had a fan beaten into a coma. In the NFL there's courts in the bowels of the stadium in Philly, extra security outside each section in Oakland and a Jets fan hitting a woman last weekend. Euro soccer there's beating, stabbings, riots and refs killed. But, i forgot those sports embrace and encourage wild fan behavior like you did say......

 

I still do not get why people such as yourself can not understand that in a public place there are codes of conduct. Instead, the comeback is "don't take your kid there" or "they'll hear it someplace else". It goes back to the argument about entitlement. It's not about the "masses", either. It's about proper behavior and maturity which sadly is lacking across society in general.

 

I said awhile back that you can not have kids live in a bubble but you can pick or choose where to bring them and do your part as a parent. See, you can only do so much to educate children and try to protect them knowing full well they'll learn it one way or another, eventually. It's a double edged sword, but it shouldn't be in a public place. Especially where there are codes of conduct and a simple respect for others. A person does not have the right to make a public place, be it a game or a visit to the mall or food store, their own personal living room to do and say what they want.

 

How difficult is this, really, to understand? 

Maybe it's how indignant you're acting and the fact that you just made a ridiculous claim that there's no way to be neutral on this issue and that everyone who is, is just hiding that they're not on your side.

If you think people swearing at a sporting event means they thinks it's their own living room, you're a big 'ol whiner. Yes, the chant is lame, but you are equally lame. I recall my parents being very upset that I yelled "suck" at a game, I think it was directed at the Senators, I was like 6. Some other fan high fived me. I, obviously, now swear at all times in public places and am forever scarred by my premature loss of innocence........................


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:36 PM

Maybe it's how indignant you're acting and the fact that you just made a ridiculous claim that there's no way to be neutral on this issue and that everyone who is, is just hiding that they're not on your side.

If you think people swearing at a sporting event means they thinks it's their own living room, you're a big 'ol whiner. Yes, the chant is lame, but you are equally lame. I recall my parents being very upset that I yelled "suck" at a game, I think it was directed at the Senators, I was like 6. Some other fan high fived me. I, obviously, now swear at all times in public places and am forever scarred by my premature loss of innocence........................

 

There is no way to be neutral. The more you try the more you'll find yourself leaning one way. This whole "debate" is opinion and preference. There's no way to not have an opinion on it.

 

But, those who waxed about how it "don't bother me" or how "people can do what they want and i don't care" for example, is how arguably 1-3 members in this thread started off. They tried to be neutral or at least see it both ways. However, the more these people posted and got involved the more you saw what side they are on. Either by their own words, examples or who they "sided" with in replies. 


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