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#101 NJDevs4978

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:02 PM

Yeah barring something out of left field, we're headed towards one forward on IR and sending Larsson down for a day or two tomorrow to get under the roster deadline, then sneaking Urbom through when everyone's rosters are set (a la Butler last year) and recalling Larsson in time for Thursday. Then you have your 14-7-2 roster without anyone making an NHL salary in the AHL.  Unfortunately the forward going on IR might not be Tedenby since now Elias has a mysterious issue.

 

That isn't going to solve it forever though.  But I guess odds are with fourteen fowards, many of them older the fifteenth guy ain't sitting indefinitely.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:07 PM

Man if JJ is the one to get traded, I'm gonna be really upset.

 

What do you even get in return for him? He is not yet an established NHL player, but he's 4 years removed from his draft year. Whatever offer you give, it wouldn't seem too tempting to someone who has a limited idea of Josefson's game.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:31 PM

Man if JJ is the one to get traded, I'm gonna be really upset.

 

What do you even get in return for him? He is not yet an established NHL player, but he's 4 years removed from his draft year. Whatever offer you give, it wouldn't seem too tempting to someone who has a limited idea of Josefson's game.

 

what the leafs got for colborne maybe? Though at least he was a PPG player in the AHL though JJ's been better in the NHL 


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:43 PM

not that we could sign him or anything but i just realized that Chad Larose still hasnt re-signed with Carolina... 


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:57 PM

not that we could sign him or anything but i just realized that Chad Larose still hasnt re-signed with Carolina... 

 

He's gone "missing".   I think he's more or less retired.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:21 PM

He's gone "missing".   I think he's more or less retired.

 

he only put up 4 points last year so it may be a forced retirement


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:41 AM

Clowe-Elias-Brunner

Olesz-Zajac-Ryder

Henrique-Loktionov-Zubrus

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Tedenby-Josefson-Jagr

 

those are the lines today. Still wonder what they are going to do.

 

There's ways to go around it but again i hope this is not just like the Maclean year when Elias was on IR with Lou not managing the roster well and putting some players at risk or putting a black cloud over the team knowing one has to go. He admitted himself that he fvcked up that year.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:27 AM

Clowe-Elias-Brunner

Olesz-Zajac-Ryder

Henrique-Loktionov-Zubrus

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Tedenby-Josefson-Jagr

 

those are the lines today. Still wonder what they are going to do.

 

There's ways to go around it but again i hope this is not just like the Maclean year when Elias was on IR with Lou not managing the roster well and putting some players at risk or putting a black cloud over the team knowing one has to go. He admitted himself that he fvcked up that year.

 

The fact that Josefson (whom I am assuming is not injured) is on the 5th line while Gionta is on the 4th really pisses me off.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:34 AM

The fact that Josefson (whom I am assuming is not injured) is on the 5th line while Gionta is on the 4th really pisses me off.

 

i'm not reading that much into it. i think JJ is safe. the larsson for urbom swap is one guy. i think that's fairly certain. IR tedenby for the first week waiting for injury or trade.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

The fact that Josefson (whom I am assuming is not injured) is on the 5th line while Gionta is on the 4th really pisses me off.

It probably has to do with chemistry... Carter/Gionta/Bernier have chemistry, while Teddy and JJ do too. I wouldn't let it piss you off. Lou said he didn't want 1W contracts in Albany, so Gionta is likely going to be sent down, regardless of having to pass through waivers. I trust that they are wise enough to put a 5 foot 7, 29 year old 4th liner on waivers over Josefson, who has so much more potential.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:48 AM

It probably has to do with chemistry... Carter/Gionta/Bernier have chemistry, while Teddy and JJ do too. I wouldn't let it piss you off. Lou said he didn't want 1W contracts in Albany, so Gionta is likely going to be sent down, regardless of having to pass through waivers. I trust that they are wise enough to put a 5 foot 7, 29 year old 4th liner on waivers over Josefson, who has so much more potential.


I agree. If Gionta gets through, you can always call him back up and know what you are getting. He is a perfect plug in guy if an emergency happens.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:57 AM

I'm hoping that if Gionta gets sent down, it's the last time we see him this year - unless there's a huge injury. Even though PDB seems to love the guy, Lou was wise enough to give him a two-way contract. I get the sense that they want to keep him in the organization and that sooner or later he'll be sent down, once everyone else has their rosters set. I could be wrong though. Maybe he is good enough to be claimed. But I think that most other teams see him as, like Wensink says, a plug-in guy.

 

Now that it's pretty clear that Josefson won't be starting out anywhere but the fourth line, hopefully he's the first guy to move up once injuries happen in the top 9.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:26 PM

guys , are you forget about some things

jagr is in just for one year

ryder is in just for two(if some of our joung will be grow up)

teddy may not be roster player in future

we don`t know anything about olesz future in our organization

etc

 

but in the next year and after year of next year we will still need of real good 4th line 

and one 4th good line we still have

gionta isn`t better than jj

but gionta-carter-bernier still better than most of fourth lines in league with real good chemistry

 

and when New Jersey Devils will gather to march for the cup

team will need in real good 4th line

 

and i think PDB and LL think about our future in that key


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

Anyone catch this one?

Made me smile.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:49 PM

Anyone catch this one?

Made me smile.

 

ignore the goal at the end


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:51 PM

Elias and Jagr both say they are good to go for opening night... Only 70 minutes until 5pm... Not sure if they'll put anyone on the IR considering everyone skated today. I hope we don't give up on Tedenby, i think he still has serious potential.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:13 PM

the larsson/urbom move buys them one guy if they want to try to sneak urbom down.

 

unless they IR tedenby, they've gotta deal someone in the next 45 minutes.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:19 PM

the larsson/urbom move buys them one guy if they want to try to sneak urbom down.
 
unless they IR tedenby, they've gotta deal someone in the next 45 minutes.

I somehow doubt a team would pickup Gionta.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:19 PM

guys , are you forget about some things

jagr is in just for one year

ryder is in just for two(if some of our joung will be grow up)

teddy may not be roster player in future

we don`t know anything about olesz future in our organization

etc

 

but in the next year and after year of next year we will still need of real good 4th line 

and one 4th good line we still have

gionta isn`t better than jj

but gionta-carter-bernier still better than most of fourth lines in league with real good chemistry

 

and when New Jersey Devils will gather to march for the cup

team will need in real good 4th line

 

and i think PDB and LL think about our future in that key

 

Bernier and Carter are almost surely gone after this year...I don't wanna overpay them to be 4th liners. You can go find guys like them for free like how we got them in the 1st place


Edited by DH26, 30 September 2013 - 03:19 PM.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:27 PM

I somehow doubt a team would pickup Gionta.

 

it's irrelevant - that move can't be made today to help with the roster.

 

the team is at 25. They need to be at 23 in 30 minutes.

 

lou has only a few options:

 

1) send down larsson.(doing this only gets one space obviously)

 

2) IR people (one or two guys depending on larsson or option 3)

 

3) trade people for non-NHL roster assets (one or two guys depending on #s 1 and 2 above).

 

that's it. he can't send anyone besides larsson down today to get to 23 - that ship has sailed.


Edited by sundstrom, 30 September 2013 - 03:28 PM.

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