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#21 2ELIAS6

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:52 AM

i guess neither one of you have been around long enough to have seen the debacle of a thread that happened over chinese jerseys last time it was brought up.. a heated debate broke out .. im not the one with the issue i have a few china jerseys in my closet.. i have a couple authentics and a couple game worns as well but just sayin'. People on this board flip out about them.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:54 AM

If you pay $350 for an authentic then you are doing it wrong.
 
Anyways I took this at Penn Station after a game last season.
 
Yup those sh!tty chinese knockoffs look real sharp!!
 
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LOL i was just about to say devsman where you at ... my buddy joe has a knock off henrique and i guess none of the yellow people could figure out how to get that Q in henrique right... his is also lower then the rest of the name and the collar is thick white as well as the Reebok being the wrong size.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:58 AM

LOL i was just about to say devsman where you at ... my buddy joe has a knock off henrique and i guess none of the yellow people could figure out how to get that Q in henrique right... his is also lower then the rest of the name and the collar is thick white as well as the Reebok being the wrong size.

 

Thats the thing.  How can people say the knockoffs are just as good as the real thing when they spit out garbage like that?  I mean it's not even close and its not the first knockoff I have seen with letters stitched haphazardly.  I would even take Hockey Haus's awful customization over that any day.

 

The reason why a lot of jersey collectors go nuts over these knockoff jerseys is because it is damaging their hobby.  With the influx of these knockoffs coupled with the Indo-Edges, you are lucky now these days to get back what you paid for when you buy an authentic or game worn.  You used to be able to at least somewhat break even collecting jerseys over the long haul, now you don't even come close and is more of a labor of love than anything.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:04 AM

Thats the thing.  How can people say the knockoffs are just as good as the real thing when they spit out garbage like that?  I mean it's not even close and its not the first knockoff I have seen with letters stitched haphazardly.  I would even take Hockey Haus's awful customization over that any day.
 
The reason why a lot of jersey collectors go nuts over these knockoff jerseys is because it is damaging their hobby.  With the influx of these knockoffs coupled with the Indo-Edges, you are lucky now these days to get back what you paid for when you buy an authentic or game worn.  You used to be able to at least somewhat break even collecting jerseys over the long haul, now you don't even come close and is more of a labor of love than anything.

after understanding it ruining the hobby it was easier to understand your strong opinion on this. As ive said i do have a few knock offs of jerseys i dont really care about i have a traitorchuk, eli manning and hakeem nicks which are all fake. I have a langenbrunner and brodeur which are ccms i guess the equivilant to the reebok premiers, I have an authentic brodeur framed and signed and i have an elias and clarkson game worns. It does sucks to buy a game worn even if your getting a deal on it then decide you want to unload it and use the funds to buy something else its apparently not so easy to unload them and make back a fair amount of money.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:42 AM

If you pay $350 for an authentic then you are doing it wrong.

Anyways I took this at Penn Station after a game last season.

Yup those sh!tty chinese knockoffs look real sharp!!

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Did you take pictures of all the other ones that look fine? No. Exception to the rule simple as that.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:49 AM

Did you take pictures of all the other ones that look fine? No. Exception to the rule simple as that.

 

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:55 PM

If you pay $350 for an authentic then you are doing it wrong.

 

Anyways I took this at Penn Station after a game last season.

 

Yup those sh!tty chinese knockoffs look real sharp!!

 

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I've seen that jersey before, that's called buying on impulse. I do my research before I purchase anything, especially from a foreign country. Here's the two jerseys I got from them, Kovy and Henrique.

 

Kovy on the right, Adam on the left. 

 

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Ignore the area I took the picture on, using the unfinished guest room.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:58 PM

Did you take pictures of all the other ones that look fine? No. Exception to the rule simple as that.

I took a picture of the two I got from the weiketrade, beautifully done. Only thing I can complain about are some loose threads and the smell when you receive it (WASH IT ASAP LOL).


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:49 AM

I took a picture of the two I got from the weiketrade, beautifully done. Only thing I can complain about are some loose threads and the smell when you receive it (WASH IT ASAP LOL).


Looks good, like I said miniscule differences with 200-300 jerseys.

Did you pay for it with a debit card or something else?

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:45 PM

I buy only RBK Premiers now.  I hate how Reebok charges you Authentic price for their Indo Edges.  Don't get me wrong.  I think the Indo Edges aren't bad at all.  I wish they'd sell the actual on ice authentics though.  IceJerseys, JerseyExpress, and SportsK are the best when it comes to getting actual tackle twill letters.  There's also a place in Colorado called Dorholt Custom Sports.  He does amazing work.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:56 PM

I buy only RBK Premiers now.  I hate how Reebok charges you Authentic price for their Indo Edges.  Don't get me wrong.  I think the Indo Edges aren't bad at all.  I wish they'd sell the actual on ice authentics though.  IceJerseys, JerseyExpress, and SportsK are the best when it comes to getting actual tackle twill letters.  There's also a place in Colorado called Dorholt Custom Sports.  He does amazing work.

 

I would beg to differ with Dorholt's quality.  I can spot his jerseys from a mile away from the spotty workmanship and that huge DCS patch he insists on putting on his jerseys.  I have seen more than 1 of his jerseys at the Rock where the fake 10th patch he sells is stitched in the wrong place and put dead center on the bottom hem, not off to the right side by the manufacturer logo like it is supposed to be.  Not only that but I have seen jerseys he has done with crooked lettering and wonky sizing.  My buddy once ordered a Devils White throwback Shanahan jersey in XL from him and when he got it, one of the H's was completely crooked and the sizing was so wonky that the shoulder yolk came down to his elbow and the arm letters were at the top of his forearms.  Another time he listed on his website blank white Devils throwbacks for $99 were out of stock, yet at the same time he was selling them on ebay for $150 BIN.  He is basically just a domestic counterfeiter and used to post on this forum until he was called out by other members of this forum for his ethics and workmanship.  I still see him on other forums though where he is openly embraced for some reason.

 

Icejerseys does a good job, but they outsource most of their Devils lettering to EPS, so might as well get the jersey cheaper on ebay and send it to EPS yourself for cheaper as well.  I got a blank premier over the summer on ebay for $40 NWT and then sent it to EPS for $60 to get Jagr put on there.  JerseyExpress is ok, just do not know too much about them.  SportsK is ok to just get the jersey, but as for lettering I have heard various horror stories on more than 1 jersey collecting forum.

 

For the Indo-Edges, yeah it sucks that Reebok decided when they switched to the wordmark to make these "retail authentics" that are not what the players actually wear.  I tend to avoid them too unless I get a really good deal on them.  Hell last month amazon.com had a few Devils Indo-Edges brand new with tags for like $86 each in various sizes including 52's, 54's and 56's.  However it has been reported by many sources that many of the jersey dealers and retailers have complained so much about the Indo-Edges to Reebok that Reebok has completely shut down production of them and will go back to selling authentic Edge 2.0's.  Right now what you see in the stores is Reebok trying to sell off the remaining Indo-Edge stock and may take as long as a year for the 2.0's to reach the stores.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:13 PM

I would beg to differ with Dorholt's quality.  I can spot his jerseys from a mile away from the spotty workmanship and that huge DCS patch he insists on putting on his jerseys.  I have seen more than 1 of his jerseys at the Rock where the fake 10th patch he sells is stitched in the wrong place and put dead center on the bottom hem, not off to the right side by the manufacturer logo like it is supposed to be.  Not only that but I have seen jerseys he has done with crooked lettering and wonky sizing.  My buddy once ordered a Devils White throwback Shanahan jersey in XL from him and when he got it, one of the H's was completely crooked and the sizing was so wonky that the shoulder yolk came down to his elbow and the arm letters were at the top of his forearms.  Another time he listed on his website blank white Devils throwbacks for $99 were out of stock, yet at the same time he was selling them on ebay for $150 BIN.  He is basically just a domestic counterfeiter and used to post on this forum until he was called out by other members of this forum for his ethics and workmanship.  I still see him on other forums though where he is openly embraced for some reason.

 

Icejerseys does a good job, but they outsource most of their Devils lettering to EPS, so might as well get the jersey cheaper on ebay and send it to EPS yourself for cheaper as well.  I got a blank premier over the summer on ebay for $40 NWT and then sent it to EPS for $60 to get Jagr put on there.  JerseyExpress is ok, just do not know too much about them.  SportsK is ok to just get the jersey, but as for lettering I have heard various horror stories on more than 1 jersey collecting forum.

 

For the Indo-Edges, yeah it sucks that Reebok decided when they switched to the wordmark to make these "retail authentics" that are not what the players actually wear.  I tend to avoid them too unless I get a really good deal on them.  Hell last month amazon.com had a few Devils Indo-Edges brand new with tags for like $86 each in various sizes including 52's, 54's and 56's.  However it has been reported by many sources that many of the jersey dealers and retailers have complained so much about the Indo-Edges to Reebok that Reebok has completely shut down production of them and will go back to selling authentic Edge 2.0's.  Right now what you see in the stores is Reebok trying to sell off the remaining Indo-Edge stock and may take as long as a year for the 2.0's to reach the stores.

That's weird.  I have never had any real issues with Dorholt's work.  He's absolutely loved on HF.  I also have him as a facebook friend.

 

If you want the absolute best, you should use EP.  EP does all the customization for the actual players' Devils jerseys.  I've gotten jerseys done from Sportsk, and their lettering isn't perfect.  But it's still pretty good.  IceJerseys is better than Sportsk, but the captain's letters aren't right.  If you're a stickler for things being absolutely, perfect, EP is your best bet.  But since they don't sell jerseys anymore, you have to buy a jersey from other places.  I'm personally not a stickler like that.  I have a Henrique jersey with the old RBK Vector logo instead of the woordmark.  I also just recently sent out my two Kovy's to EP to be turned into a Zajac and Henrique.

 

Here's what happened with Reebok.  When the Edges first came out, they used the 1.0's for only a few months.  The players started to complain and the 2.0s were being used by player half way into the inaugural Edge season which 2007-2008.  The 2.0's have been around for over 5 years, but since they had a huge stock of 1.0', they couldn't release the 2.0's for sale.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:22 PM

That's weird.  I have never had any real issues with Dorholt's work.  He's absolutely loved on HF.  I also have him as a facebook friend.

 

If you want the absolute best, you should use EP.  EP does all the customization for the actual players' Devils jerseys.  I've gotten jerseys done from Sportsk, and their lettering isn't perfect.  But it's still pretty good.  IceJerseys is better than Sportsk, but the captain's letters aren't right.  If you're a stickler for things being absolutely, perfect, EP is your best bet.  But since they don't sell jerseys anymore, you have to buy a jersey from other places.  I'm personally not a stickler like that.  I have a Henrique jersey with the old RBK Vector logo instead of the woordmark.  I also just recently sent out my two Kovy's to EP to be turned into a Zajac and Henrique.

 

Here's what happened with Reebok.  When the Edges first came out, they used the 1.0's for only a few months.  The players started to complain and the 2.0s were being used by player half way into the inaugural Edge season which 2007-2008.  The 2.0's have been around for over 5 years, but since they had a huge stock of 1.0', they couldn't release the 2.0's for sale.

 

Yeah Dorholt is loved on HF but whatever.  That forum is a wretched hive of scum and villiany anyways and Dorholt fits right in.  After seeing his work in person on many different jerseys including my buddy's as well as trying to scam his own customers by trying to sell on eBay for higher than just selling through his website, I do not think too highly of him to say the least.

 

I use EPS for all my jerseys now and have been for a few years.  Top notch work and worth the wait from them.

 

Yeah I heard that too about Reebok, but the Indo-edges were a clear money grab.  You can still find some Devils 1.0's floating around as well on eBay and other collectors.  Once in a while you find blank 1.0's on Meigray's website in the clearance section, but there are none right now.  I find that a little odd as when I was there for the warehouse sale in July they had a whole rack of about 200 blank jerseys just sitting there.  They might just be stockpiling for the Devils but just found it funny.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:26 PM

Yeah Dorholt is loved on HF but whatever.  That forum is a wretched hive of scum and villiany anyways and Dorholt fits right in.  After seeing his work in person on many different jerseys including my buddy's as well as trying to scam his own customers by trying to sell on eBay for higher than just selling through his website, I do not think too highly of him to say the least.

 

I use EPS for all my jerseys now and have been for a few years.  Top notch work and worth the wait from them.

 

Yeah I heard that too about Reebok, but the Indo-edges were a clear money grab.  You can still find some Devils 1.0's floating around as well on eBay and other collectors.  Once in a while you find blank 1.0's on Meigray's website in the clearance section, but there are none right now.  I find that a little odd as when I was there for the warehouse sale in July they had a whole rack of about 200 blank jerseys just sitting there.  They might just be stockpiling for the Devils but just found it funny.

 

Most of the posters on HF are no different than they are on here.  But what if you have a differing opinion over there from the masses, it's considered trolling.  Or at least that's the way it is on the Devils board.

 

I know they sell Indo Edges at the team store, or they did last year.  I still see 1.0's floating around as well.  If they didn't sell them at the $250 like they do, I'd definitely buy more Indo jerseys.  The Premiers aren't bad, but I'm not a fan of the glued on crests.  I wish the NHL used a 3 tiered system like the NFL.

 

Nike Game $100

Nike Limited $135

Nike Elite $250

 

I think the NHL should follow suit.

 

RBK Premier $120

RBK Indo Edge $150

RBK Authentic Edge $250


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:42 PM

Looks good, like I said miniscule differences with 200-300 jerseys.

Did you pay for it with a debit card or something else?

Debit card, no problems whatsoever. Only thing I hate is the guy who runs the place barely knows English lmao. He can type for the most part but if you were to contacted them put a translation in the message.

 

Keep in mind with my photo I didn't quite focus too much so it's a little blurry. I kinda took it and quickly uploaded it without really looking. Great jerseys and I'll be sporting my Henrique jersey tomorrow when I'm watching my Devils spank some Islander a$$.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:17 PM

Ugh not the sh!tty Chinese knockoffs again.

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I have a Jets knockoff jersey that looks as good as the Jerseys sold in the Jets store in Manhattan.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:43 PM

I have a Jets knockoff jersey that looks as good as the Jerseys sold in the Jets store in Manhattan.

Football knockoffs tend to look better because they are easier to make. Still doesnt make it right though.

Most NHL knockoffs I see look terrible.

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:51 PM

Anybody know where I can find an infant jersey.  My niece is turning one year old, and I want to make sure she roots for the right team.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 04:50 PM

I have a question, why is it that, for example, people with Kovalchuk jerseys, opted to have them re-nameplated with Ryder/Sykora? My question is, you have an authentic jersey, why keep the numbers? Is getting the nameplate and numbers replaced to make it a #68 Jagr jersey: A. not worth the price. B. impossible. or C. Other? Just curious


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 04:55 PM

I have a question, why is it that, for example, people with Kovalchuk jerseys, opted to have them re-nameplated with Ryder/Sykora? My question is, you have an authentic jersey, why keep the numbers? Is getting the nameplate and numbers replaced to make it a #68 Jagr jersey: A. not worth the price. B. impossible. or C. Other? Just curious

probably just a little easier/quicker turn around time/ cheaper to have the name plate swapped out rather then have all of the numbers and the name plate swapped out. you can get a name plate swap for like $20 you can go wrong with that. Maybe these people just like either ryder or sykora?
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