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#61 John Wensink

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:01 PM

It would be something if Torts is a much better coach than we thought.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:06 PM

Wow, shots 17-3 Ana after 1
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:17 PM

But in all seriousness I agree, it seems like a while since we've had a highly talented prospect projected to be a definite top-line guy.


Boucher says hello. I think he'll be a dynamic prospect in a few years.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:23 PM

It would be something if Torts is a much better coach than we thought.

 

I never thought he was a bad coach to begin with.  It's not like the Rangers ever underachieved in terms of their talent level really, and actually overachieved a couple years ago.


Dude, what the hell happened to the Rags this year? This isn't "just a slow start"... 9-2 the other night, and now 3-0 in the 1st period already against Anaheim... Something's up over there. I'm thinking we were all right about Lundqvist not being that good a goalie without the shot-blocking and the big pads. That's not my Devils fan rivalry-cynicism speaking, it just seems to be the case.

 

Even guys like McDonagh are just... slow, and out of position every time. Seems like they're not even trying.

 

It's possible...it's also possible the contract thing is getting to him, and it's also possible they aren't that good of a team and were propped up by the 92345 shot blocking system.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:24 PM

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Rangers are a hot mess right now. Suddenly, I don't feel so bad about our situation.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:27 PM

Is Lundqvist using smaller pads? Five goals back to back games.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:30 PM

Didn't mean to say he was bad, just more influential to the rags success than it seemed

I never thought he was a bad coach to begin with. It's not like the Rangers ever underachieved in terms of their talent level really, and actually overachieved a couple years ago.


It's possible...it's also possible the contract thing is getting to him, and it's also possible they aren't that good of a team and were propped up by the 92345 shot blocking system.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:49 PM

6-0 Anaheim right now. May be another 9 goal night against the Rags. When was the last time a team was blown out two games in a row?


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:49 PM

Big surprise that The King of Pads can't play with the reduced sizes.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:56 PM

You guys are out of your minds, Hank is the only one playing, it would be 15-0 without him!


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:09 PM

This is getting ugly for NYR. So ugly I can hardly enjoy it. I think it'll work out for the Devils.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

This would be more enjoyable if the Devils actually had a win.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

Boucher says hello. I think he'll be a dynamic prospect in a few years.


He's a borderline NHLer.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

Boucher says hello. I think he'll be a dynamic prospect in a few years.

As much as I want to agree, it seems that so many players can put up huge numbers in the OHL/WHL/QMJHL/etc. and not have it translate to the NHL. The Sarnia goals record is nice, but he beat a 17 year old Stamkos when he was 19. And it took him more games. Those two years make a huge difference, especially at that level. I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't think Boucher is on the level of Hertl, Tarasenko, Teravainen, etc. I definitely don't see him as a first liner, but you never know.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:15 PM

This would be more enjoyable if the Devils actually had a win.

 

Been saying to myself all night. We better get the W tomorrow.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:00 AM

Right now, the Rangers couldn't beat a pee wee team. They don't play any defense and are often caught up ice. AV's system is based on taking chances. I can't recall seeing McDonagh and Girardi look so out of sync. On one hand, I can name the forwards who are giving max effort. Lundqvist has smaller pads. Big deal. If your team doesn't play in front of you, you could be Hasek or Dryden and it would be the same result. I had some observations on tonight.

 

They were going to get out slowly. But I didn't expect to see them not even compete. And the next stop is St. Louis.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:04 AM

I never thought he was a bad coach to begin with.  It's not like the Rangers ever underachieved in terms of their talent level really, and actually overachieved a couple years ago.


 

It's possible...it's also possible the contract thing is getting to him, and it's also possible they aren't that good of a team and were propped up by the 92345 shot blocking system.

 

Didn't mean to say he was bad, just more influential to the rags success than it seemed
 

 

Hasan is right. The reason Tort had them play that way was due to personnel. A good coach adjusts to the roster. Even with Nash, they're not an overly skilled team. The Rangers won't be confused with the Islanders, Canucks or Sharks. You must have great team speed to play run and gun. Sather listened to Lundqvist, Richards and the press. He made the same mistake acquiring Nash. 2011-12 was their best shot. You don't break up a roster that close.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:25 AM

15 goals against and 2 goals for the Rangers in the last 2 games.... that can make us feel better


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:56 AM

Living in DC I end up watching/attending a fair amount of Caps games and hang out with a lot of caps fans. Urbom played well last night and erskine (who is in their top 4) has played terrible in the 3 games i've seen. Certainly a big part of it is the atrocious D depth on the Caps, but I believe Urbom will be afforded every opportunity to win a spot in the top 4 of their lineup. It was the best thing possible for Urbom's career to be picked up by them.  I'll be sure to fill everyone in on what Urbom is able to do when given an opportunity at the NHL level.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

Hasan is right. The reason Tort had them play that way was due to personnel. A good coach adjusts to the roster. Even with Nash, they're not an overly skilled team. The Rangers won't be confused with the Islanders, Canucks or Sharks. You must have great team speed to play run and gun. Sather listened to Lundqvist, Richards and the press. He made the same mistake acquiring Nash. 2011-12 was their best shot. You don't break up a roster that close.

 

I can't speak for you personally, since I have no idea what your thoughts about the Nash trade and Torts firing were at the times they happened.  And it isn't really a dig so much at Ranger fans, since most fans are guilty of it.  But the fickleness of the mob is astounding.

 

When the Nash deal was announced, you would be hard pressed to find anyone that thought it was a bad deal for the Rangers, and it basically got Howson fired.  (My very unscientific analysis comes from getting Ranger fan thoughts from their messageboards).  The Rangers were supposedly one elite forward away from winning the Cup, even according to pseudo-stat nerds like Neal "I'm always right, except when I'm usually not, but there really is something scientific to my predictions" Greenberg, AND the Rangers managed to hold on to wunderkind Chris Kreider.  Last year, the big problem was Torts not opening things up. 

 

Just to be clear, I have no idea what's in store for the Rangers, since I haven't watched any of their games thus far, and can't tell if this is the start of a persistent trend.  But FWIW, Pierre McGuire, who, despite message board rantings, is a very good hockey analyst (who I would like the Devils to take a look at for GM when Lou retires), thinks that the shrunken pads and decreased back end of the net has really affected Lunqvist's game.  If that's true, the Rangers might be in the Connor McDavid sweepstakes next year.


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