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#941 DevsMan84

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:32 AM

Looks like a little under $22 mil to spend next season, accoring to capgeek.  They have a big contract coming off the books in Heatley's.  They have four RFAs, but no major UFAs to worry about. 

 

That is certainly a help and keep forgetting about Heatley.  Is Vanek that much of an upgrade over him at this point?


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:41 AM

That is certainly a help and keep forgetting about Heatley.  Is Vanek that much of an upgrade over him at this point?

 

Yes. 


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:43 AM

If they sign Vanek, Minnesota's defense and/or general depth is extreeeemely suspect.

 

If they were to sign him, they have a 2-3 year window (tops) that they absolutely must win the Cup or they probably won't contend for any time soon after that, barring another big overhaul of Compliance Buyouts and Amnesty, etc...


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:45 AM

That is certainly a help and keep forgetting about Heatley.  Is Vanek that much of an upgrade over him at this point?

 

Definitely.  Heatley is terrrible now and is three years older than Vanek.  Heatley has 44 points and is a -22 in his last 94 games.  Vanek is still a good player.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 01:00 PM

so now WE have to trade for a scorer to do everything we can to go for the cup even trading prospects/picks and ignore our future but when other teams are stacking, then for them you have to look down the road if they will be fvcked in a few years, oh i get it i get it.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 01:38 PM

so now WE have to trade for a scorer to do everything we can to go for the cup even trading prospects/picks and ignore our future but when other teams are stacking, then for them you have to look down the road if they will be fvcked in a few years, oh i get it i get it.

 

Apples and oranges. 

 

We have a huge stack of semi-expendable defensive prospects (and veterans too, if someone wants 'em) to try and trade for scoring forwards who are hopefully just young enough to count on sticking around here in the future. We're not going to magically draft a strong offense this season; not this year, and not within the next 4-5 years will we have a strong young offense in our farm. So now we need to clean that mess by using the cards that we were dealt to at least plug the holes for 4-5 years (via trade and especially UFA in July).

 

Now, having said all of that, our situation is completely different than what Minnesota would be doing by signing Vanek, which is ultimately having signed 4-5 Kovalchuk-ish long-term contracts, which will go super sour in 3-4 years if they don't get a Cup within that time, as they reach their 30s and past their prime. But it would be sort of worth it if they do. That's all I'm saying.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:05 PM

Definitely.  Heatley is terrrible now and is three years older than Vanek.  Heatley has 44 points and is a -22 in his last 94 games.  Vanek is still a good player.

 

We already have a few defensively challenged forwards. No need for another one. I'd go for Stastny or Parenteau.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:15 PM

We already have a few defensively challenged forwards. No need for another one. I'd go for Stastny or Parenteau.

 

No one was saying the Devils should trade for Heatley.  DM84 was asking about Minnesota's cap situation.  I told him that Heatley's big (and very bad) contract comes off after this season.  I don't think anyone wants Heatley...he looks like he might be done soon. 


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:50 PM

Pretty much every team we're in contention with for a playoff spot is playing tonight. We need help from Edmonton, Colorado, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Tampa Bay, Florida, Buffalo, and LA. This has the potential to be a giant clusterfvck of a night for us.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:51 PM

Detroit is the big one. We need Florida to beat Detroit


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:00 PM

Detroit is the big one. We need Florida to beat Detroit

The Phailures losing in regulation would also be extremely helpful.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:49 PM

True, but predictably that game is 1-0 Philly going into the 3rd. Also Detroit tied up Florida 1-1


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:07 PM

Of course, not one result is going our way. Not one. Its laughable.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:17 PM

fvck you Colorado. Seriously, go fall in a puddle of hepatitis you useless a$$holes.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:31 PM

Edmonton is winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:32 PM

Edmonton baby, atta way Oil.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:36 PM

Edmonton baby, atta way Oil.

 

I hope we get to face Bryz tomorrow night.  Apparently Callahan fvcked up.  I didn't get to see the ending because MSG crapped out.  lol


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:40 PM

I hope we get to face Bryz tomorrow night. Apparently Callahan fvcked up. I didn't get to see the ending because MSG crapped out. lol

Careful what you wish lol. The Devils would have trouble scoring on a shooter tutor these days.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:47 PM

Careful what you wish lol. The Devils would have trouble scoring on a shooter tutor these days.

 

Come on man!  Something's gotta give!  There's no way we can sustain this unlucky-ness forever, right?!  RIGHT?!

 

And did I tell you I'm going to the game?  I'm 7-1-3.  Just sayin'.   ;)

 

And I'm 6-0-1 when I sit in sec 132, row 3, seat 13.  That's where I'm sitting tomorrow night.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:58 PM

Aaaaand Detroit wins. fvck off Florida.


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