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#41 Triumph

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

I can't imagine that many GMs thought using a hand on a faceoff was such a big deal that they needed to make it a minor penalty.  I have never in my life heard anyone complain about that at any level of hockey.  Even if they did want to eliminate it, why does it need to be a penalty?  Why not just make it like every other faceoff violation--just redo the draw but with the center getting kicked out and if he does it enough times, then give him a penalty?

 

This encourages it.  It doesn't prevent it.  If you want it out of the game, make it a penalty.  It'll be gone in 2 years.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:48 AM

This encourages it.  It doesn't prevent it.  If you want it out of the game, make it a penalty.  It'll be gone in 2 years.

How does it encourage it if you can't win a faceoff that way anymore and instead the faceoff is redone with a winger taking the draw?  Just because something isn't penalized doesn't mean it is encouraged.  Might as well just make icing a penalty then.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:34 AM

How does it encourage it if you can't win a faceoff that way anymore and instead the faceoff is redone with a winger taking the draw?  Just because something isn't penalized doesn't mean it is encouraged.  Might as well just make icing a penalty then.

 

It makes it a virtual freeroll if the center falls down and the puck is lying there.  Oh, a winger has to take the faceoff instead of us losing it?  Well, we were going to lose it anyway.  Plus nothing people love more than watching faceoff resets.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:30 PM

It makes it a virtual freeroll if the center falls down and the puck is lying there.  Oh, a winger has to take the faceoff instead of us losing it?  Well, we were going to lose it anyway.  Plus nothing people love more than watching faceoff resets.

Well in that case I still wouldn't say it is "encouraged," and like other faceoff violations if you do it enough times you get a penalty, which prevents centers from exploiting it.  Having the winger take the faceoff is still not as good as the way things were when you could just win the faceoff with your hands.  You can use your hands to play the puck at any time so why should faceoffs be different than any other puck battle?


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:03 PM

Chico was dead wrong tonight.  That one play there is one they absolutely should have blown dead.  All ties and close races should and always go to the defending player.  Since the attacking team is the one guilty of the infraction of icing, the onus is on them to get into position to clearly get possession of the puck.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

Chico was dead wrong tonight. That one play there is one they absolutely should have blown dead. All ties and close races should and always go to the defending player. Since the attacking team is the one guilty of the infraction of icing, the onus is on them to get into position to clearly get possession of the puck.


Absolutely not. Glass was clearly overtaking the defender, and he did actually beat him to the puck. If its going to be 50-50 whos going to get it then you let it go. That play wasnt even 50-50, glass was going to get the puck first. 1 game, 1 terrible call already with this rule
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:03 PM

sure hope this hybrid icing sh!t doesnt stick around forever.. talk about annoying already and its only been one game.
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

Absolutely not. Glass was clearly overtaking the defender, and he did actually beat him to the puck. If its going to be 50-50 whos going to get it then you let it go. That play wasnt even 50-50, glass was going to get the puck first. 1 game, 1 terrible call already with this rule

 

No.  Any neck and neck race will always go to the defending player.  No ifs ands or buts.  That was the case for that one particular play.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:28 PM

Just to clarify, the attacking player has to be clearly ahead of the defending player in the race.  If it's a tie, then the defending player gets the call.  The attacking player can still be ahead of the defending player, and the play will will still get blown down.  Only when it's 100% definitive the attacking player will get to the puck first will be when icing is waved off.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:45 PM

sure hope this hybrid icing sh!t doesnt stick around forever.. talk about annoying already and its only been one game.

 

It's about safety and both sides wanted it. A few questionable icing races that have about .0001% impact on the game aren't going to change anything. It's better to have Tanner Glass mad about that then to end up like Chris McAlpine or Taylor Fedun (I think that was the Oilers guy it happened to)


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 05:26 AM

I know injuries from icings are rare, but the injuries that do come from icing are devastating injuries.  I can see why they wanted to get rid of it.


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