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#161 2ELIAS6

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 04:56 PM

Urbom was highly touted at one point.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:29 PM

i think he's a devils type defender and will work great for us in a year or two, send him down let him learn. washington missed out.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 08:13 PM

i think he's a devils type defender and will work great for us in a year or two, send him down let him learn. washington missed out.

Hoping for the best, but I don't see him being more than a 3rd pairing/7th d guy. He got passed by Merrill and Gelly this offseason despite having more experience and no minor league option. 


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:25 PM

Lou has gone off the reservation.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:21 AM

I am confused on why people keep saying he got passed by Merrill and Gelinas on the depth chart. I am pretty sure neither of them were on the team to start the season and were only called up after Urbom was claimed and the D had various injuries.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:45 AM

I am confused on why people keep saying he got passed by Merrill and Gelinas on the depth chart. I am pretty sure neither of them were on the team to start the season and were only called up after Urbom was claimed and the D had various injuries.

 

Compare their seasons. It's really quite obvious.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

Compare their seasons. It's really quite obvious.


First of all this makes no sense. You can't pass someone on the depth chart if they aren't in the organization. No one knows if Urbom wouldn't have been called up before Merrill. Oh, and if you look at stats, Urbom has as many points as Merrill in 2 less games and and is a plus player, Jon is a minus 7. Obviously, Merrill is waaaaayyyyy better.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:08 AM

First of all this makes no sense. You can't pass someone on the depth chart if they aren't in the organization. No one knows if Urbom wouldn't have been called up before Merrill. Oh, and if you look at stats, Urbom has as many points as Merrill in 2 less games and and is a plus player, Jon is a minus 7. Obviously, Merrill is waaaaayyyyy better.

 

Yeah, he is waaay better:

 

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Urbom's getting pushed back horribly.  Merrill is holding his own.  +/- is stupid.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:31 AM

I am confused on why people keep saying he got passed by Merrill and Gelinas on the depth chart. I am pretty sure neither of them were on the team to start the season and were only called up after Urbom was claimed and the D had various injuries.

Urbom wasn't going to be on the team to start the season just like Merrill and Gelinas. He was either going to get claimed or get sent to Albany. Gelinas has been in the organization for years so the Devils knew what they had in him. Merrill was in the organization last March so it's not like he was some unkown to the Devils. The only reason Urbom got an extended look in camp is because he was waiver elgibile. Merrill and Gelinas clearly jumped him on the depth chart.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:06 PM

If Urbom reaches his potential, he'll be another Gelinas for the most part.  Urbom still has the potential to be a good defensemen in this league.  He needs a lot of polishing though,


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

If Urbom reaches his potential, he'll be another Gelinas for the most part. Urbom still has the potential to be a good defensemen in this league. He needs a lot of polishing though,


Not sure I agree with that comparison. I see a more physical version of Andy Greene. He states too well for his size not to find a place on some team. It may take another season, maybe 2, but I believe he is a second pairing player.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:13 PM

If Urbom reaches his potential, he'll be another Gelinas for the most part.  Urbom still has the potential to be a good defensemen in this league.  He needs a lot of polishing though,

 

I think Urbom can be serviceable from the little I have seen from him, but I think Gelinas will clearly be a better player.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:15 PM

First of all this makes no sense. You can't pass someone on the depth chart if they aren't in the organization. No one knows if Urbom wouldn't have been called up before Merrill. Oh, and if you look at stats, Urbom has as many points as Merrill in 2 less games and and is a plus player, Jon is a minus 7. Obviously, Merrill is waaaaayyyyy better.

 

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The depth chart is just a chart to map out the pecking order and who is better than who. You can do a depth chart with every player in the NHL. Merrill is clearly better than Urbom and whether or not they were on the same team for the past 20 games is unimportant. 


If Urbom reaches his potential, he'll be another Gelinas for the most part.  Urbom still has the potential to be a good defensemen in this league.  He needs a lot of polishing though,

 

They are nothing alike. Unless 'for the most part' means "Gelinas with a much lesser shot". 


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:19 PM

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The depth chart is just a chart to map out the pecking order and who is better than who. You can do a depth chart with every player in the NHL. Merrill is clearly better than Urbom and whether or not they were on the same team for the past 20 games is unimportant. 


 

They are nothing alike. Unless 'for the most part' means "Gelinas with a much lesser shot". 

 

 

Urbom has a good shot from what I've read about him.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:26 PM

Urbom has a good shot from what I've read about him.

 

It's average. And he doesn't shoot a lot - 59 SOG in 68 games last year, Gelinas had 137 in 57. Gelinas has always averaged more than 2 shots per game, Urbom has averaged less than 1 (last year), 1 (two years ago) and 1.4 (three years ago, assume he got PP time, which he won't get in NJ...ever).

 

They're not similar unless you take out the best ability of the better player.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:34 PM

Not sure I agree with that comparison. I see a more physical version of Andy Greene. He states too well for his size not to find a place on some team. It may take another season, maybe 2, but I believe he is a second pairing player.

 

Skating and size are great combinations.  The problem with Urbom - and I watched a decent amount of him with the Caps - is that his decision-making is poor.  If you can skate and you're big great, but if your decisions don't move at NHL speed, you won't be an NHL player.  It's not really a problem worth correcting at the NHL level, either, because the Devils have plenty of defensemen who are better now and have more potential.

 

As for Urbom's shot, it IS pretty good - he absolutely hammered in one of his goals this year - but plenty of guys like that have hard shots.  He's not going to be able to use it very often though.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 05:10 PM

The Devils donot have enough scoring so this is a genius move!!


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:15 PM

Classic Lou move. He just can't resist picking up ex-devils. It's like his crack-cocaine.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:39 PM

Classic Lou move. He just can't resist picking up ex-devils. It's like his crack-cocaine.

And Rafalski is attempting a come-back now. You just know Lou will be intrigued lol.


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