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#21 SterioDesign

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

Right, cause firing your coach 3 games into the season is a great way to portray yourself as an organization.  Maybe the ownership/Homer should start showing up to practices and actually observe the coaching staff and try to see if the coaching is really the problem. I.E. players not responding, players looking unhappy, players obviously not understanding, not gelling as a unit.  Yeah, I know, showing up to a practice or two may not give a sense of the real problem at hand, but come on, THREE games in and Lavi is most likely out the door.

 

Its hard to know whats up behind closed doors, think of Julien's firing riiiight before the playoffs with a handful of games left and we were like on top of the conference. We certainly made a good impression to the organization there either. 


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

Just watched the presser...

 

One reporter asked Snider if bringing in someone "insular" to the organization -- from a culture of "losing" -- was the right move, and Snider got his panties in a bunch.

 

He said they don't need a fresh perspective.

 

Interesting...


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:18 AM

Guess Holmgren's job is safe for another several years, excellent.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:28 AM

Guess Holmgren's job is safe for another several years, excellent.

 

That be great for the rest of the East. I think he is an idiot and history shows that, but a lot of his moves were really made by Snider. He gets a free pass on Bryzgalov because that was 100% his bosses decision.

 

Having said that, they brought in Hextall, and I don't think it would be a big shocker if he took over sooner than later.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:32 AM

Rofl, Phailures.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:46 AM

Its hard to know whats up behind closed doors, think of Julien's firing riiiight before the playoffs with a handful of games left and we were like on top of the conference. We certainly made a good impression to the organization there either. 

I see what your saying.  But that's a different situation, that was before the playoffs (which is just as risky), not three games into the season.  I bet if the press asked Holmgren, "Did you see anything in particular that helped you make your decision?", Homer would not have a very well defined answer.  You don't do this so early in the season.  If your Holmgren, you need to have the presence of mind and vision to make this decision before the season starts, well before your season opener.   Indecisiveness like this is what gets you into trouble.  Bottom line, this is very piss poor leadership.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:02 AM

I bet if the press asked Holmgren, "Did you see anything in particular that helped you make your decision?", Homer would not have a very well defined answer.

 

Take it for what it's worth, but Holmgren said they didn't have a good feeling about the team from the first day of camp on.  They saw something they didn't like, and nothing changed between then and now.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 01:02 PM

This move doesn't reall make sense. Why do it three games in? I know he had a short leash after last season but they should've just done this during the offseason
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 01:05 PM

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

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haha nice.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:46 PM



This move doesn't reall make sense. Why do it three games in? I know he had a short leash after last season but they should've just done this during the offseason

 

Agreed. That said, they went 1-5-1 in preseason and looked worse than that doing it. Then they started poorly (last in the East, worst goal differential in the league) so they made a panicky move. That's their thing - the short sighted personel move is the patented Flyers move.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

Any spot in the organization for Lavi?


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

vadvlfan is Paul Holmgren?  Wouldn't've guessed that. 

 

I like Laviolette and hope he can go to the Western Conference for a change.

Damn your good. the press conf. became a little testy today.  One reporter asked, 11 coaches in 20 years? (Holmgren-is it that many?) suggested that maybe they shgould change the "culture"  Snider was pissed.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:51 PM

I actually thought he was a good coach. Hope he gets a spot somewhere else and shines, basically a coach version of Bobrovsky lol


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

Crazy move, 3 games into the season?  when is Holmgren held accountable for the infinite failures he has over seen??


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:51 PM

I don't like him as a person (running people out of town for being "immoral" while having weird interviews with a sideline reporter is a classic), but that's a pretty quick turfing.   Since everyone besides Berube gets fired, obviously he was stabbed in the back.   Not sure what the hell Berube brings to the table.   Weird organization, never seems like they're on the same page and there's always some influence stabbing people in the back.   


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:39 PM

Laviolette is a terrific coach imo.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

Crazy move, 3 games into the season?  when is Holmgren held accountable for the infinite failures he has over seen??

 

They didn't like how they looked at the start of camp. Preseason didn't help. But for a good coach like Lavy, it was unfair. If you're so hell bent on making a change, let him go before the year. Moving Berube up is solid. He's paid his dues in the minors and as an assistant. Maybe they'll respond. 


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