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#1 dmitri

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:44 PM

You guys have been ripping on Volchenkov in the GDT, but you don't pay attention to the really useless players: the Zs: Zubrus, Zajac, and, to a lesser extent, Zidlicky.  Zidlicky gave up the puck for no good reason twice in the first 10 minutes tonight, but at least he goes and attacks and does something.  The other two fellas, with big contracts, skate about every night and do NOTHING.  Nothing.

 

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:50 PM

Zidlicky hasn't been useless.  I think he has 3 assists.  Zubrus has been fine imo.  Zajac has been good in his own zone, but he's been awful in the O zone.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:54 PM

I'm not gonna get on any of the offensive guys right now because it hasn't been what's hurting the team. They've been scoring without them. Of course it'd be nice for them to get going but right now it's the defense that's killing them hence the hate on Volch since he's been at the forefront of it all.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:58 PM

Volch apologists. I can't think of one thing that he has done tonight where I went "great play", However I can think of quite a few "that was atrocious".


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:01 PM

Volch apologists. I can't think of one thing that he has done tonight where I went "great play", However I can think of quite a few "that was atrocious".


He's a tough stay at home defenseman. He's got going to make a lot of great plays. His job is to be rough on opposing players in the corners and block shots. It's not conducive to pretty plays.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:03 PM

I'm not gonna get on any of the offensive guys right now because it hasn't been what's hurting the team. They've been scoring without them. Of course it'd be nice for them to get going but right now it's the defense that's killing them hence the hate on Volch since he's been at the forefront of it all.

 

But they have been doing it for years.  Let me rephrase that: they have been doing nothing for years.  Zubrus and Zajac have been useless since day one.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

Zajac's lack of offense is a huge problem but there's not exactly much that can be done about it right now unless we clone Parise and have that player with Zajac.  Zubrus is about 18th on the list of problems right now, and Zidlicky looks like Norris material compared to Volch.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:06 PM

But they have been doing it for years.  Let me rephrase that: they have been doing nothing for years.  Zubrus and Zajac have been useless since day one.

 

LOL since day one? I'm not even gonna waste my time justifying that with a response.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:10 PM

He's a tough stay at home defenseman. He's got going to make a lot of great plays. His job is to be rough on opposing players in the corners and block shots. It's not conducive to pretty plays.

Volch is on the receiving end of more roughness then he dishes out, I rarely see him giving it to anyone. And I don't see him winning many puck battles ever. I haven't seen much in the way of blocking shots either. So why is he out there? Next thing you guys will be defending Salvador.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:15 PM

LOL since day one? I'm not even gonna waste my time justifying that with a response.

 

Alright, Zajac was alright in the first two years, but it's been downhill from there.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:20 PM

Volch is on the receiving end of more roughness then he dishes out, I rarely see him giving it to anyone. And I don't see him winning many puck battles ever. I haven't seen much in the way of blocking shots either. So why is he out there? Next thing you guys will be defending Salvador.


Try watching him objectively. You'll see him cross checking guys in front, giving extra shots in the corners and taking passing lanes. Those are all little things that he's supposed to be doing. He may not be worth 4 million a year but he brings a physicality to the back end that no one else is bringing.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:20 PM

Alright, Zajac was alright in the first two years, but it's been downhill from there.

 

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

Try watching him objectively. You'll see him cross checking guys in front, giving extra shots in the corners and taking passing lanes. Those are all little things that he's supposed to be doing. He may not be worth 4 million a year but he brings a physicality to the back end that no one else is bringing.

 

Objectively he makes a big mistake almost every time he's on the ice.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:41 PM

Objectively he makes a big mistake almost every time he's on the ice.


Right. No he doesn't. No one does. Again, he may not be worth his contract, but he is nowhere near as bad as everyone tries to make him out to be.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:10 AM

Zidlicky is tied for the lead in points on the team right now. He's very valuable for his offensive game, even if it means that there will be some mistakes on defense.

 

I don't see what the problem is with Zubrus, honestly. Yeah, his contract seems like an overpayment, but I don't think he does any more or less than what he is expected to do at this point. I could be wrong about that, though. Maybe you're expecting 50+ points from him every season.

 

I can agree to some extent about Zajac. Something has got to change if he's going to be the #1 center we're all hoping for. It's a shame that his offensive game looks like it may be a product of other players to a large degree. I hope I'm wrong about that.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:40 AM

Zajac has been a completely turned it around in my opinion. I like what I've seen from him. Maybe his play last year really muddied my judgement, but he's been moving his feet, winning battles on the boards, making some huge defensive plays, bringing the physical game, the things you need someone to bring to the table. He hasn't been moving the puck any worse than anyone else. No one else is going to play that hard nosed game. Sure, he needs to do something to start getting his point total up, but he's really been playing hard, and that what we need on the ice from guys with letters. But hey, if I knew sh!t, I wouldn't be posting on this forum, would I?


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:11 AM

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:18 AM

Zajac has been a completely turned it around in my opinion. I like what I've seen from him. Maybe his play last year really muddied my judgement, but he's been moving his feet, winning battles on the boards, making some huge defensive plays, bringing the physical game, the things you need someone to bring to the table. He hasn't been moving the puck any worse than anyone else. No one else is going to play that hard nosed game. Sure, he needs to do something to start getting his point total up, but he's really been playing hard, and that what we need on the ice from guys with letters. But hey, if I knew sh!t, I wouldn't be posting on this forum, would I?

 

If the story about his stick is true, he needs to go back to his stick ASAP!


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