I don't knwo what to say -- no it's not that big a deal but I think there might be a team mindset - a very stubborn one.
How is Sal's refusing to cover the open guy, but stick to his own despite the fact Zids was already doing the wrong thing any different from our coaching staffs entire style? It's the same. It's EXACTLY what DeBoer is doing. It's sticking brainlessly to a CLEARLY losing plan and refusing to change things up mid-stream for the sake of a win. personally I dont find that admirable discipline. I find it bullsh!t and illogical and self-destructive. Discipline is POINTLESS if it's self-destructive. You;re learning to self destruct not how t be disciplined
I love exposing problems but this team isn't fixing them once they've been exposed - that is the concern. They have a history of not learning from past mistakes which I find concerning personally.
I think there is something going on keeping the energy down. A sort of forced dicipline that isn't coming naturally and I dont see that it will -- and it's dragging the team down. Slow and tired is a mental issue. These guys are professional athletes and they are conditioned well -- slow and tired doesn't figure in. Yes they're on a west coast road trip. Yes normally it's far to early to be concerned. but these are the same problems from last year following them into this year is the thing. Pre-season was high energy with all the young blood. This team is sapping the life out of everyone and ... there needs to be something done. Nothing big, nothing heavy handed -- but something a little more obvious and something different than past failed solutions.
This formula is not winning as is -- it needs tweaks, obvious tweaks nit little adjustments while staying the (do you understand it is a losing?) course.
Basically I think what I'm saying is IF the coaching formula was a success you'd SEE buy-in. It woudl be something visual, not audio. Nothing is being fixed - just spoken of. No the team isn't clueless, no they aren't on the wrong page or different pages.
Also Henrique and Zajac ARE finding their groove. they are really our most important parts - and aside from Andy greene their is no equivalently relevant part on our D. Fayne shoudl be but -- you know if you just dont like him get rid of him. how long before you get that this technique isn't working? WHY did you hold on to him -- just because Talinder left? I mean -- I'm just curious.
I dont think it's Stevens in the sense that he's making the wrong calls. i think it's Stevens in the sense he's not taking the lead. Gretzky never had to be coached - that is why he was a sh!tty one -- he spoke his own language only. Stevens was coached and learned - he speaks the language of several coaches and quite clearly knew how to listen and change even when he wasn't sure. He was OK with trusting someone else's sight. SOOOO maybe his weakness is not trusting his own in a new situation. He's not speaking up during games we all see that. He's not accepting his role in SUPPORT of his core. He's not offering managerial support to his charges. That would be my guess. Lou needs to have lunch with him and ask for what he woudl do -- and the answer you want to hear is something different. You want Stevens to actually hear the question not try to solve the problems through the I work under Pete's lens. You have various coaches for the differences they bring. If Stevens is the guy being too heavy handed then DeBoer isn't doing HIS job. What I'm sayign here is they can't be on the same page as it stands - they need to help eachother out of this blind spot. Being so nice together is not exposing the problems it's covering then up.
it sounds counter to my hating the fact that this team is just an huge exposed mess and they wont fix it because the guys aren't getting it - so just leave the big gaping wound until it's healed by magic? Well that's no solution either.
ehhh fvck it... I have my own life to get on with.
Yeah -- this is that bad. Nothing so far proves to me that any steps have been made to fix anythign -- waiting ten games with these problems is stupid. They're old problems everyone knew about. Basically the inaction tells us fans they are unfixable and that's why everyone is freaking out.
and fvck it all I cant waste my time thinking it through further
Edited by Pepperkorn, 12 October 2013 - 08:29 AM.