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#221 Revan

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

i mean... the last 4 games... one play or one fvck up made the difference. We litteraly could have won and be 4-1-0 easily. 

That's what I've learned watching the playoffs. It's not about being a much better team, it's just about being better. Sometimes you see a club simply being one step ahead of their opponents all series long and they sweep the series. No blowouts, no shutouts, but they win 4-0. That's pretty much what's happening to the Devs now. They are always this bit worse. And they are going to lose a lot of points because of that seemingly small difference if their games doesn't change quickly.


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#222 Mike Brown

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

I get the feeling some people seem to want it both ways.  Many of the same fans that (rightly) accused this team of being too slow to go through a generational change are now unhappy about generational growing pains.  I'm nowhere near enough of an expert to suggest what the coaching staff should or should not do, I can only observe some things that (to me, anyway) seem fairly obvious.

 

The team lost a lot of firepower all at once.  Regardless of how one feels about ##s 17, 23, 9 and 12, there's no denying these were experienced players, who at least had been around the block a few times, played under a lot of different conditions against different teams.  They were replaced by new people who are learning to play in the NHL and, more importantly, learning to play with each other.  This takes time.  In hockey, like in any sport or any job, there is a learning curve.  We may very well have another bad season or two, but talent takes time to develop.  The other option is to try and hang everything on the same old people and end up like Philly.

 

Who was the number 12?


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:02 PM

That's what I've learned watching the playoffs. It's not about being a much better team, it's just about being better. Sometimes you see a club simply being one step ahead of their opponents all series long and they sweep the series. No blowouts, no shutouts, but they win 4-0. That's pretty much what's happening to the Devs now. They are always this bit worse. And they are going to lose a lot of points because of that seemingly small difference if their games doesn't change quickly.

 

The gap between the best team in the league, and the worst isn't as big as some think.  This isn't a CCCP vs USA in 1980 type of gap here.  If the bad Panthers plays a good game, even they can beat the Hawks if they play a bad game.  We saw it last night when the Panthers clobbered the Pens.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:07 PM

Who was the number 12?

 

Rolston i assume


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:11 PM

That's what I've learned watching the playoffs. It's not about being a much better team, it's just about being better. Sometimes you see a club simply being one step ahead of their opponents all series long and they sweep the series. No blowouts, no shutouts, but they win 4-0. That's pretty much what's happening to the Devs now. They are always this bit worse. And they are going to lose a lot of points because of that seemingly small difference if their games doesn't change quickly.

 

yup a lot of what fvcked us over is bad D coverage and leaving guys wide open against out goalie. Grabner, Hall, Monahan... those 3 bad plays killed our game.

 

well that + our guys not able to score a single penalty shot / SO, it's really a concern


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

Rolston i assume

 

Was he really that big of a blow?  I mean fans were begging any team to take him.   :lol:


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

Who was the number 12?

 

Pony.


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#228 DevsMan84

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:49 PM


I get the feeling some people seem to want it both ways. Many of the same fans that (rightly) accused this team of being too slow to go through a generational change are now unhappy about generational growing pains. I'm nowhere near enough of an expert to suggest what the coaching staff should or should not do, I can only observe some things that (to me, anyway) seem fairly obvious.

The team lost a lot of firepower all at once. Regardless of how one feels about ##s 17, 23, 9 and 12, there's no denying these were experienced players, who at least had been around the block a few times, played under a lot of different conditions against different teams. They were replaced by new people who are learning to play in the NHL and, more importantly, learning to play with each other. This takes time. In hockey, like in any sport or any job, there is a learning curve. We may very well have another bad season or two, but talent takes time to develop. The other option is to try and hang everything on the same old people and end up like Philly.

Replaced by new people learning to play in the NHL? Which one of Ryder, clowe, Schneider, jagr and olesz is learning to play in the NHL?

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:51 PM

Pony.

 

Poni was useless last year.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:29 PM

Poni was useless last year.

 

yeah Poni leaving was a bit like Sykora leaving... sucks but totally replaceable BUT not for the same price. 21 goals for like 500k that was one hell of a deal that year.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:54 PM

Poni was useless last year.

he was the biggest useless bag of sh!t we could have been stuck with last year.. complete garbage.. so glad that bum isnt with us this year
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#232 Mike Brown

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:17 PM

he was the biggest useless bag of sh!t we could have been stuck with last year.. complete garbage.. so glad that bum isnt with us this year

 

No need to trash him like that man.  lol


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:37 AM

Somewhat erratic in the third. Flames had the early edge with shots 6-1. Then the Devs had that one long shift by Jagr, Elias and Zubrus that should've resulted in a goal. Instead, Calgary blocked shots and they didn't give up a shot. That was the game.

 

Hell, they got a 2 on 1 out of it and the only shot of the sequence


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:55 AM

Replaced by new people learning to play in the NHL? Which one of Ryder, clowe, Schneider, jagr and olesz is learning to play in the NHL?

 

Jagr is probably learning how not to forget how to play in the NHL, but that's a whole separate conversation. :giggle:


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