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#161 caron14

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:23 PM

At least nobody complain about the goal song!... Lou plan it all the way


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:26 PM

Schneider prooved us he is solid, he should e the goalie of the future no sweat. It's just a matter of how we pull the rest of the way off.
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:26 PM

I didn`t like either contract that was given out. Both plays heavily benefited from their linemates, and both contracts were given after it was known that neither of those linemates would be there anymore to play with them. I question if either are 50 point players with anyone on this roster.

 

Not sure if Henrique got a bigger contract for some big goals he scored in the 2012 playoffs, but if that is the case, it`s silly. 

 

GMs are going to miss in free agency, It happens all the time, but you will destroy a team if you can`t properly evaluate players internally. I think Lou has really struggled with both these players. 

 

The Henrique one was the one that surprised me.  Zajac I kind of understood at the time (Lou trying to be proactive), but it still felt very risky to me. 


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:28 PM

Schneider prooved us he is solid, he should e the goalie of the future no sweat. It's just a matter of how we pull the rest of the way off.


Assuming he resigns here. He's an impending UFA, not RFA, after this contract correct?

Negative post, I know. But it's valid to note that we all shouldn't simply assume he's absolutely going to stick around.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:30 PM

At least you can get 'some' value from the Zajac contract even if he fails offensively because of his other attributes, but Henrique really needs to become a scorer without 17 and 9 around.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:30 PM

Schneider prooved us he is solid, he should e the goalie of the future no sweat. It's just a matter of how we pull the rest of the way off.

 

Schneider is the least of our worries...for right now, anyway. 

 

Plenty of other guys to worry about. 


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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan!
[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:51 PM

this is terrible


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:54 PM

I don't know what's more disconcerting, the quality of play tonight or the difference in tone between Schneider's postgame interview and Salvador's postgame interview. Sal's clearly not the right leader for the team. And after a game like tonight, where guys like Schneider and Jagr are the only ones who show up, I don't even know who is anymore....


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:55 PM

Salvador, Schneider, Zajac and Jagr had a good game the rest of the Devils were awful.

 

Stevens didn't have any coaching experience before he was made a coach and that is showing. De Boer's past history is repeating itself.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

I am usually the most optimistic one here but this is bad...so bad. I mean watching Volchenkov and Harrold out there while Fayne is in the box is absolutely ridiculous. Watching Stephen Gionta acting like he is an NHL regular is pathetic while guys like Josefson are sitting. The defensive system is broken ever since Larry left, the offense has no creativity whatsoever, and Zajac and Henrique are not the answers to this team. We need some sort of shake up and it needs to happen now. Gelinas has to be in the lineup, make some sort of trade, get these players to start fighting for their jobs. No more playing favorites, play the best possible lineup night in and night out but seeing Deboer picking favorites is the sketchiest thing I saw a coach do since the Maclean year. This is bad, but I can only hope eveything starts to click and they magically start rolling.

 

I mean it is a HUGE problem that Jagr is showing more heart and detemrination than our core players.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:08 PM

maybe the team will do another scavenger hunt


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:08 PM

I am usually the most optimistic one here but this is bad...so bad. I mean watching Volchenkov and Harrold out there while Fayne is in the box is absolutely ridiculous. Watching Stephen Gionta acting like he is an NHL regular is pathethic while guys like Josefson are sitting. The defensive system is broken ever since Larry left, the offense has no creativity whatsoever, and Zajac and Henrique are not the answers to this team. We need some sort of shake up and it needs to happen now. Gelinas has to be in the lineup, make some sort of trade, get these players to start fighting for their jobs. No more playing favorites, play the best possible lineup night in and night out but seeing Deboer picking favorites is the sketchiest thing I saw a coach do since the Maclean year. This is bad, but I can only hope eveyhing starts to click and they magically start rolling.

 

I agree 100%. First off, sit Harrold and bring in Fayne. Second, send Gionta down and use the spot to bring up a Merrill or Gelinas. Sit Volchenkov one night and put in Merrill; or sit Zidlicky one night and put in Gelinas, etc.

 

These veterans are so fvcking comfortable with their jobs, there's no compete level, there's no accountability. They know they're getting paid and DeBoer's not going to say sh!t. It'll do a lot for the kids (like Josefson, Henrique, Tedenby, Larsson) on the team for their confidence if they see the coach enacting the same standard on the whole group. I don't think guys like Elias, Jagr, etc. will mind that some veterans got benched, and their jobs aren't in jeopardy anyway.

 

fvck, if it doesn't work, at least you tried, and you're still no worse off than this stretch of 6 games without a win.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:08 PM

I am usually the most optimistic one here but this is bad...so bad. I mean watching Volchenkov and Harrold out there while Fayne is in the box is absolutely ridiculous. Watching Stephen Gionta acting like he is an NHL regular is pathetic while guys like Josefson are sitting. The defensive system is broken ever since Larry left, the offense has no creativity whatsoever, and Zajac and Henrique are not the answers to this team. We need some sort of shake up and it needs to happen now. Gelinas has to be in the lineup, make some sort of trade, get these players to start fighting for their jobs. No more playing favorites, play the best possible lineup night in and night out but seeing Deboer picking favorites is the sketchiest thing I saw a coach do since the Maclean year. This is bad, but I can only hope eveything starts to click and they magically start rolling.

 

I mean it is a HUGE problem that Jagr is showing more heart and detemrination than our core players.

 

 

Our core players have always had a problem with inconsistent "heart". Kovalchuk and Parise were big plusses in that department


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:09 PM

I cant believe I'm a fan of the worst team in the league.

This team was built around Kovalchuk, obviously which is why they haven't won a game since he left with an injury vs. Florida last year.

Kovalchuk leaving caught the team off guard so it seems as if its going to take at least a year to find a new identity.

Right now this team has no identity. 

I swear there are college teams more organized on the ice than this team.

They are an absolute embarrassment.

If you turn on any other hockey game you won't see a team so slow and sloppy.

It's almost surprising that they aren't losing the way the Rangers are, that might have a lot to do with Schnieder.

I think we keep playing Schneider. He gives us our best chance to get 2 points in a game for once. 

I hope he can at least give this team a chance to rebuild. 

 

A side note: I feel like Jagr wont take much more of this. He'll probably fake an injury soon if it continues like this the rest of the year. He doesnt want to go out looking like a complete loser. 


Edited by BigZ, 13 October 2013 - 11:13 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:12 PM

I haven't posted in a while. Here is my take on the situation: 

 

The Devils have always been the team that isn't supposed to go far. They are always projected to be in the bottom of the standings cause they have washed up players, or they're getting old, or Marty isn't the same or blah blah blah. Look at it this way, we took that to heart.  Looking at this team we are starting realizing we have old, slow, awful defenseman (sal, volch) and a penalty machine in Zid combined with the always "ok" harrold and the constant mystery of Adam Larsson, not to mention the old, average, non-playmaking forwards we have combined with the young, under-performing small forwards we have that never seem to show up. Now, back to the fact that we are always projected to be sh!t. We are. It always happens and we always overperform.  But the writing has been on the wall the past 3 years. Yes, we made it to the finals 2 years ago, i know, but it was a great run and it is starting to feel like its holding this team's future back. We are clinging on to our past too long. We cling on to the fact that "we will be ok because we are the Devils and no matter what anyone projects us or says about us, we will make the playoffs." But we haven't. We didn't last season and maybe it was the short season, but we weren't concerned very much. Now this season starts and we are all pumped up even though we just lost two key guys in clarkie and kovy and replaced them with a bunch of guys who have good track records, but it obviously isn't meshing right now and it isn't pretty. OUR DEFENSE IS HORRID. We need to use this season as a learning curve. Realize we aren't invincible. Try out our young guys and bring in some excitement. Have a fire sale with these old guys like volch and sal. Bring in new coaches, especially get stevens out. He obviously isn't working out.  We can do so much to have some good things happen this season. Play Josefson, Olesz, Fayne and Gelinas. The kids are faster, younger, and hungrier. They get mad and play with heart. I know josefson does. I love him for that. We don't have that right now. Deboer has jokes at practice and his job is too safe. It's unbearable to watch these sh!t games and wonder what the fuvk is going on. I might be overreacting here, but i'm just fed up. I'm fine if we tank this season because I believe in the philosophy that you have to hit rock bottom to make it all the way to the top. The reason why the Devils have been good for so long is that we had legends for a bunch of years. Our teams were stacked cause we've been excellent at drafting and just retool the 3rd and 4th lines each year to get back to being good. But this year we have 2 2nd lines and 2 4th lines. We cannot win like this. It's a patchwork team that has no future, not to mention we won't be able to get a good pick this year cause of Kovalchuk. Im done for a while. I watched the first period of tonights game and just switched to the cowboys game. The game was still tied at the end of the 1st, but i saw nothing in their play that told me they were gonna win this game. Alas, I watch the highlights after and i was right. Our powerplay is sad. Schneider bails us out on every fuvkin breakaway and we are just slow as f. I see nothing that gives me excitement about this team this season. They don't give me the feeling that other Devils teams have given me. This sucks and I can't take it anymore. 

 

When they start trying to play hockey again and play with some passion, mine will come back. 


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

Fire Doboer.  It's time.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:21 PM

Hey I scored a goal and two assists in my mens league game. I guess it was worth it not to stay home. As far as the offense is concerned, we all know they can score. Is the system not working anymore? Is the bad D that is constantly breaking down and giving up bad chances deflating the team? Morale has to be at an all time low right now. I don't know what is going to happen, but somethings got to give. I still believe this team can be better than what a lot of people expected, but something is going to have to happen to make this team 180. Until then, its either :headless chicken: or drink the coolaid :koolaid: .


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:30 PM

Define "bad offense" Triumph.

 

Are we looking at a 2.6 gpg per 82...2.55? Because sometimes you have an offense so bad that it really doesn't matter how good your goaltending is. If the Devils can do 2.6 over 82 and get well above average goaltending from Schneider and average to some stretches of above average from Brodeur...they likely sneak into the playoffs.

 

What's worrisome is Henrique and Zajac. These are guys that have fallen off a major cliff from us. We should expect at the very least 100 points between these two. Yet Zajac has 28 points in his last 68 games. Henrique has 18 in his last 47.

 

Sykora and Arnott were shipped out the door for playing way better than this.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:32 PM

This team is making the playoffs.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:33 PM

 

What's worrisome is Henrique and Zajac. These are guys that have fallen off a major cliff from us. We should expect at the very least 100 points between these two. Yet Zajac has 28 points in his last 68 games. Henrique has 18 in his last 47.

 

Sykora and Arnott were shipped out the door for playing way better than this.

 

Don't disagree with that...but it's also extremely unlikely Zajac/Henrique get traded weeks into their new deal.  Lou hasn't reached Holmgren level yet.  Neither one of them have done a thing at the NHL level offensively without Parise riding shotgun though.


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