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#161 coldply123

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:25 PM

Risky trade for the Isles.  Excellent return on assets for the Sabres who can probably flip Moulson for an extra pick/prospect if they wish to boot. 


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:56 PM

moulson has 2 goals on 3 shots, not bad


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

Risky trade for the Isles.  Excellent return on assets for the Sabres who can probably flip Moulson for an extra pick/prospect if they wish to boot. 

 

Could be a great thing for Moulson as well. If he proves he can put up his usual numbers away from Tavares, you would think he'd be a highly sought after commodity on the free agent market this offseason and could stand to make more than if he had stayed with the Isles as those questions about his production would've still hung over him.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:19 PM

MM is real good in the shootouts I understand......he could fetch a good return.......Buffalo should do good overall with his deal


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:30 PM

 

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

I still kind of want Enroth
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:38 PM

I still kind of want Enroth

 

Only if Schneider doesn't sign an extension.  But I think Buffalo will deal Miller, and Enroth will become their goalie.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:55 AM

Moulsons is a 30 goal scorer without jt. He did it when jt was out and still developing. Jt had a effect but really on the assists and total points. But moulsons without jt won't have a hugrle effect on his goals. He's a pure scorer with a lot of speed.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:26 AM

No way would I have done the trade the Isles did.  Not without a contract extension in place.  As for some of the non believers on here, I think if you take a step back, and look at our recent history RATIONALLY, we can come away with a few things:

 

1.  It's now a given that Lou's hands have been tied for at least a couple of years due to the financial contraints we were faced with.  By the time the new ownership deal was signed, it was too late to aquire any worthy free agents.

 

2.  All signs now point to the possibility that the whole Kovy situation may have been a joint effort between player and team.  I'm starting to believe the our financial situation made it necessary to allow Kovy to walk, free and clear.  It turned out to be a win-win.  Doesn't anyone find it interesting that we haven't heard one word...nothing at all from Kovy?

 

3.  This season is a "let's get through this and then hit the ground running next season" kind of thing.  No doubt we will try to compete, but this is the season we flush the past.

 

4.  Lou is still the class of of GM that others would give their right arm for.  We've had a ton of success through the years, and it's hard to blame Lou for the situation this team had been put into by ownership.  Hopefully, that will start to change, but I don't understand those who are disrespecting the guy.  I have to believe many of the haters are probably too young to remember what Lou brought to this team.  This team was a joke before Lou arrived.  I'll be crushed when he decides to retire.

 

5.  I love Marty.  I hope Marty and the team is wise enough to pull back playing time, significantly.  I feel honored to have been able to watch him since day one.  He was the best, EVER.  Sadly, time stands still for no one. 


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:52 AM

No way would I have done the trade the Isles did.  Not without a contract extension in place.  As for some of the non believers on here, I think if you take a step back, and look at our recent history RATIONALLY, we can come away with a few things:

 

1.  It's now a given that Lou's hands have been tied for at least a couple of years due to the financial contraints we were faced with.  By the time the new ownership deal was signed, it was too late to aquire any worthy free agents.

 

2.  All signs now point to the possibility that the whole Kovy situation may have been a joint effort between player and team.  I'm starting to believe the our financial situation made it necessary to allow Kovy to walk, free and clear.  It turned out to be a win-win.  Doesn't anyone find it interesting that we haven't heard one word...nothing at all from Kovy?

 

3.  This season is a "let's get through this and then hit the ground running next season" kind of thing.  No doubt we will try to compete, but this is the season we flush the past.

 

4.  Lou is still the class of of GM that others would give their right arm for.  We've had a ton of success through the years, and it's hard to blame Lou for the situation this team had been put into by ownership.  Hopefully, that will start to change, but I don't understand those who are disrespecting the guy.  I have to believe many of the haters are probably too young to remember what Lou brought to this team.  This team was a joke before Lou arrived.  I'll be crushed when he decides to retire.

 

5.  I love Marty.  I hope Marty and the team is wise enough to pull back playing time, significantly.  I feel honored to have been able to watch him since day one.  He was the best, EVER.  Sadly, time stands still for no one. 

I was thinking these things too....Kovi was JVB's project, JVB is now gone so goodbye to Kovi and that ridiculous contract etc, retire to Russia, and keep quiet, let the dust settle. Lets pay off all the pending buy-outs (and dont buy out anyone else) Keep the coach till his contract is over, get back to financial stability, let Marty finish his career with the team this year, move on next year and start building a team like he has in the past. 2013-2014 meh, 2014-2015 better, 2015-2016 even better etc


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:36 AM

why would we hear anything from kovy? are you expecting him to call? send post cards? letters?
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

Haha. No team is interested in Lou as GM. They respect what he accomplished but he is older and his approach and model is highly suspect since the prior lockout. But go ahead and keep drinking the KoolAid.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:13 AM

Haha. No team is interested in Lou as GM. They respect what he accomplished but he is older and his approach and model is highly suspect since the prior lockout. But go ahead and keep drinking the KoolAid.

 

Only reason people wouldn't hire Lou at this point is his age, that's it.  If someone had that resume and was 64, he'd be hired in a second if NJ let him go.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:35 AM

No way would I have done the trade the Isles did.  Not without a contract extension in place.  As for some of the non believers on here, I think if you take a step back, and look at our recent history RATIONALLY, we can come away with a few things:

 

1.  It's now a given that Lou's hands have been tied for at least a couple of years due to the financial contraints we were faced with.  By the time the new ownership deal was signed, it was too late to aquire any worthy free agents.

 

2.  All signs now point to the possibility that the whole Kovy situation may have been a joint effort between player and team.  I'm starting to believe the our financial situation made it necessary to allow Kovy to walk, free and clear.  It turned out to be a win-win.  Doesn't anyone find it interesting that we haven't heard one word...nothing at all from Kovy?

 

3.  This season is a "let's get through this and then hit the ground running next season" kind of thing.  No doubt we will try to compete, but this is the season we flush the past.

 

4.  Lou is still the class of of GM that others would give their right arm for.  We've had a ton of success through the years, and it's hard to blame Lou for the situation this team had been put into by ownership.  Hopefully, that will start to change, but I don't understand those who are disrespecting the guy.  I have to believe many of the haters are probably too young to remember what Lou brought to this team.  This team was a joke before Lou arrived.  I'll be crushed when he decides to retire.

 

5.  I love Marty.  I hope Marty and the team is wise enough to pull back playing time, significantly.  I feel honored to have been able to watch him since day one.  He was the best, EVER.  Sadly, time stands still for no one. 

 

I agree with every point you made.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:18 AM

No way would I have done the trade the Isles did.  Not without a contract extension in place.  As for some of the non believers on here, I think if you take a step back, and look at our recent history RATIONALLY, we can come away with a few things:

 

1.  It's now a given that Lou's hands have been tied for at least a couple of years due to the financial contraints we were faced with.  By the time the new ownership deal was signed, it was too late to aquire any worthy free agents.

 

2.  All signs now point to the possibility that the whole Kovy situation may have been a joint effort between player and team.  I'm starting to believe the our financial situation made it necessary to allow Kovy to walk, free and clear.  It turned out to be a win-win.  Doesn't anyone find it interesting that we haven't heard one word...nothing at all from Kovy?

 

3.  This season is a "let's get through this and then hit the ground running next season" kind of thing.  No doubt we will try to compete, but this is the season we flush the past.

 

4.  Lou is still the class of of GM that others would give their right arm for.  We've had a ton of success through the years, and it's hard to blame Lou for the situation this team had been put into by ownership.  Hopefully, that will start to change, but I don't understand those who are disrespecting the guy.  I have to believe many of the haters are probably too young to remember what Lou brought to this team.  This team was a joke before Lou arrived.  I'll be crushed when he decides to retire.

 

5.  I love Marty.  I hope Marty and the team is wise enough to pull back playing time, significantly.  I feel honored to have been able to watch him since day one.  He was the best, EVER.  Sadly, time stands still for no one. 

 

You're 100% on the money re: all points.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

why would we hear anything from kovy? are you expecting him to call? send post cards? letters?

Took the words out of my mouth. What was he going to do, apologize? LOL


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Took the words out of my mouth. What was he going to do, apologize? LOL

 

Actually, yes. He really could have and should have apologized to the fans who took him at his word, bought his jersey and supported him as being the centerpiece of the franchise going forward. I'm not saying it was required, but it would have been a classier thing to do on his part given the bad taste of how he left.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:52 AM

Actually, yes. He really could have and should have apologized to the fans who took him at his word, bought his jersey and supported him as being the centerpiece of the franchise going forward. I'm not saying it was required, but it would have been a classier thing to do on his part given the bad taste of how he left.

Not disagreeing, but there was no way in hell that was gonna happen. And I seriously doubt anyone would have been like oh, well, at least he said sorry.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:57 PM

Not disagreeing, but there was no way in hell that was gonna happen. And I seriously doubt anyone would have been like oh, well, at least he said sorry.

I'm not saying we would've forgiven him, but maybe at the very least the vitriol would've been lessened to a degree.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:28 PM

I'm not saying we would've forgiven him, but maybe at the very least the vitriol would've been lessened to a degree.

There's not a chance in the world that would have happened. If anything, people would have been more angry. Unless his reasoning was something along the lines of my Mother is dying and I wanted to be there during her last years. Basically anything short of that would have gotten a big old fvck you.


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