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#241 thefiestygoat

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:24 PM

I'm a huge Janssen fan but he really should be scratched. I don't mind that Brunner is sitting out again though. Still think it might be worth it to let Whitney have a chance.

 

I've been fine with Brodeur playing the majority of games since he's been playing well but I was hoping Schneider would get this game. A bit worried about his comments of how frustrated he is, though I can't blame him. Can't think of a goalie as solid as him that spent so much time as a back up in his career off the top of my head. Too early to worry about this now but I do wonder what happens if Brodeur comes back next year.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:37 PM

I'm a huge Janssen fan but he really should be scratched. I don't mind that Brunner is sitting out again though. Still think it might be worth it to let Whitney have a chance.

 

I've been fine with Brodeur playing the majority of games since he's been playing well but I was hoping Schneider would get this game. A bit worried about his comments of how frustrated he is, though I can't blame him. Can't think of a goalie as solid as him that spent so much time as a back up in his career off the top of my head. Too early to worry about this now but I do wonder what happens if Brodeur comes back next year.

 

It's pretty simple - he does it in another uniform.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:42 PM

It's pretty simple - he does it in another uniform.

 

Brodeur or Schneider?  We all know there is no way Brodeur is ever going to wear another uniform in his career.  Lou will give him a 1 year deal in the event Marty wants to come back. 


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:18 PM

If Marty keeps playing this way I could see him asking for a two-year deal lol.  And Schnieder'll be gonzo, or at least he'll request a trade.


It's pretty simple - he does it in another uniform.

 

No he won't.  They hero worship him to the point where Schnieder never plays anymore except in back-to-backs, they're sure as shooting not going to let him walk after this year unless he crashes and burns the rest of the season.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:21 PM

Brodeur's crash and burn is basically inevitable - he hasn't maintained this level of play at any point in the last 3 years, why should he suddenly have done so this year?  Schneider will get the crease back eventually.  It's just a question of what might happen next year.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:37 PM

If Marty keeps playing this way I could see him asking for a two-year deal lol.  And Schnieder'll be gonzo, or at least he'll request a trade.

No he won't.  They hero worship him to the point where Schnieder never plays anymore except in back-to-backs, they're sure as shooting not going to let him walk after this year unless he crashes and burns the rest of the season.

 

If that happens, then Lou has officially jumped the shark.  It's been discussed before, but it reaches a point where you can't let an aging former great hold the franchise hostage.  Lou was extremely fair in the last contract he gave Marty (at Marty's age, there was clearly risk involved).  It was basically a "Thanks for all you've done, even though you're probably not going to live up to the actual value" kind of deal, but an understandable one.  Doesn't mean Lou has to dole out another one to a guy who's going to be 42.   

 

Tri is right...it is extremely unlikely that Marty will keep up this level of play.  If he somehow managed to do it, I think the Devils still have to walk away from him no matter what.  If that means Marty has to play a handful of games for another team, so be it...it happens.  Ray Bourque played for the Avs, Joe Montana played for the Chiefs, Michael Jordan played for the Wizards...the list goes on.  No other goalie has anywhere near the wins that Marty does for one team, which says it all, as far as a top goalie staying with one team for his entire career goes.  But there's no way in hell this should ever turn into a Mark Messier situation, especially since there's a guy clearly capable of taking over (and who cost the Devils a first-rounder at that).  


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

I can't see Brodeur playing for another team, even if Lou refused to offer him a contract for next season.  I personally think he'd walk away at that point.  I also don't see Lou telling Marty to pack his sh!t and go if Marty came to him at the end of this season and wanted to play one more year.  Lou apparently isn't afraid to tell hall of fame players when its time to hang them up (apparently, according to Shanny, Lou told him that he could no longer keep up in the NHL when the Devils cut him loose a few seasons ago even though Shanny didn't agree at the time), but I think it's just different with Marty for Lou.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:52 PM

I can't see Brodeur playing for another team, even if Lou refused to offer him a contract for next season.  I personally think he'd walk away at that point.  I also don't see Lou telling Marty to pack his sh!t and go if Marty came to him at the end of this season and wanted to play one more year.  Lou apparently isn't afraid to tell hall of fame players when its time to hang them up (apparently, according to Shanny, Lou told him that he could no longer keep up in the NHL when the Devils cut him loose a few seasons ago even though Shanny didn't agree at the time), but I think it's just different with Marty for Lou.

 

It's also on the player to make the transition for his team as painless as possible.  Marty should care about the state of the Devils beyond his playing days, especially since there's a good chance he's still going to be part of the organization going forward.  What's best for the Devils is Schneider getting all of 2014-15 as the no-doubt-about-it starter, with either Kinkaid, Wedge, or some veteran backup type as his backup...a guy who clearly is not a threat to take the #1 job, or thinks of himself as such.  Marty going into next season thinking he's still a potential #1 is not a good situation for anyone involved.  The Devils have to cater to Schneider over Marty eventually.  You don't give up #9 overall picks to bring in a stopgap...Lou clearly made that move thinking Cory would be the man starting in 2014-15 at the latest.   


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

sh!t. TG's twitter account was hacked, I believe.

 

  1. Devs' lines: Zubrus-Zajac-Jagr; Henrique-Elias-Brunner; Carter-Loktionov-Bernier; Tedenby-Josefson-Ryder.

  2. Looks like Volchenkov will be in for Harrold tonight and Brunner in for Janssen.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:35 PM

Finally some logical roster decisions. Thank you PDB, now don't go back on these decisions.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

Finally some logical roster decisions. Thank you PDB, now don't go back on these decisions.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:30 PM

Interesting lines with Ryder on the 4th... I would prefer jj play between carter and bernier but I guess you need someone defensively capable between teddy and Ryder.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:32 PM

Getting a wee bit worried with the lack of updates on Larsson. Didn't look so bad and AFAIK he hasn't skated since. 


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:37 PM

Getting a wee bit worried with the lack of updates on Larsson. Didn't look so bad and AFAIK he hasn't skated since. 

with our glutton of D this year, every injury is gonna be milked out for a longggg time


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:38 PM

Interesting that Merrill is in for Harrold.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

Mayhaps, but I feel like we've seen this show before. Guy gets injured, said to be minor/day-to-day, before you know it they say he's out 2 months.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:40 PM

Interesting that Merrill is in for Harrold.


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maybe some scouts want to check him out.....I think Lou moves a D man for some scoring help this season


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:17 PM

maybe some scouts want to check him out.....I think Lou moves a D man for some scoring help this season

I'd be surprised if this happens... Guys like Merrill and gelinas are sort of in the grey zone when it comes to prospects... You've invested years in them and you're just about to get your answer if they're legit or not. The return you'd get probably isn't enough to warrant moving them. It's better to just hang into them.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:53 PM

i hope elias can spark up his line mates brunner and henrique .. i think that is the best option for those two to be with him
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