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#341 Devils Pride 26

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:23 PM

God this is such a simple solution. Why doesn't Lou trade Elias to St. Louis for Brian Elliot and have Elliot sit as a healthy scratch behind Marty and big cor? I mean I've won five games straight after the trade in my be a pro why can't lou just see it?
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:14 PM

unfortunately janssen should be playing against the rags, we will be out-hit again.  just keep his mins in check

 

is it time to mix it up and the break up the number one line to try and establish a better second line now? (i know - sacrilege) however, elias wanted to play with jagr and with even with all the possession time figures they arent lighting up the scoreboard. the question is which two forwards play with a combo of zub-jags-travis-patty/


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:41 PM

At this point we might as well try Harrold at forward again.
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

Janssen and Sestito both in the lineup makes my blood boil.  This is what I want to see.

 

Zubrus - Zajac - Jagr

Elias - Henrique - Bernier

Boucher - Loktionov - Ryder

Tedenby - Josefson - Brunner


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:41 PM

I just want Pete playing 4 lines that have some sort of offensive ability.  Janssen and Sestito don't bring anything to the team except energy.  This team doesn't need that. THEY NEED GOALS!


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 07:25 PM

Is boucher playing? I'm not home to see sorry
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:13 PM

Is boucher playing? I'm not home to see sorry

Yes he is.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:14 PM

Have we had a defenseman not get hurt this season?  Now Zidlicky is hurt.  UGH!


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 02:17 AM

When we get 100% healthy, here is my ideal lineup.

 

Zubrus - Zajac - Jagr

Elias - Henrique - Ryder

Boucher - Loktionov - Bernier

Clowe - Josefson - Brunner

 

Greene - Fayne

Gelinas - Larsson

Merrill - Zidlicky


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 05:26 AM

When we get 100% healthy, here is my ideal lineup.

 

Zubrus - Zajac - Jagr

Elias - Henrique - Ryder

Boucher - Loktionov - Bernier

Clowe - Josefson - Brunner

 

Greene - Fayne

Gelinas - Larsson

Merrill - Zidlicky

And stratch Salvador and Volchenkov? Sorry, not coming to happen.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:23 AM

And stratch Salvador and Volchenkov? Sorry, not coming to happen.

 

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 02:07 PM

Volchenkov has been very solid this season and is key to the pk. I would much rather him in over zidlicky and even fayne, and I'm sure Merrill will show some warts as well.

Otherwise you're playing g zidlicky or Merrill on the pk and I'm not too find of that idea.
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Posted 08 December 2013 - 02:14 PM

Volchenkov has been very solid this season and is key to the pk. I would much rather him in over zidlicky and even fayne, and I'm sure Merrill will show some warts as well.

Otherwise you're playing g zidlicky or Merrill on the pk and I'm not too find of that idea.

 

Zidlicky has been one of our best defensemen this year.  Fayne has been good too.  The only guy who should be coming out for Volchenkov is Merrill.  One of Salvador or Volchenkov have to be traded imo.  And I like both of them.  I would also trade Fayne if the the return is good enough.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:29 PM

Zidlicky has been one of our best defensemen this year. Fayne has been good too. The only guy who should be coming out for Volchenkov is Merrill. One of Salvador or Volchenkov have to be traded imo. And I like both of them. I would also trade Fayne if the the return is good enough.

lol I could not disagree more. Greene Larsson fayne and obviously gelinas and Merrill all have been better than zid. I would say zidlicky and volchenkov are equally our weakest defensmen, but volchenkov is solid on the pk which is more valuable than what zidlicky brings.

Zidlicky has essentially become a pp specialist, and he is now our 4th best pp defenseman behind Greene gelinas and Merrill.
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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:32 PM

lol I could not disagree more. Greene Larsson fayne and obviously gelinas and Merrill all have been better than zid. I would say zidlicky and volchenkov are equally our weakest defensmen, but volchenkov is solid on the pk which is more valuable than what zidlicky brings.

Zidlicky has essentially become a pp specialist, and he is now our 4th best pp defenseman behind Greene gelinas and Merrill.

 

I love Greene and Merrill, but no way have have they been better than Zidlicky on the powerplay.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:50 PM

I love Greene and Merrill, but no way have have they been better than Zidlicky on the powerplay.

the numbers say otherwise. The only other defenseman who has played significant time on the pp with a worse Corsi than zidlicky is Harrold.

The point is zidlicky has essentially become a power play specialist, and he's not even very good at it. His numbers 5v5 are close to terrible, and I cringe if I see him on the pk. We now have other guys who have shown they can contribute offensively from the blue line.

I know that as long as zidlicky is on the roster and healthy he will play, I'm just saying that's unfortunate.
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Posted 08 December 2013 - 04:54 PM

the numbers say otherwise. The only other defenseman who has played significant time on the pp with a worse Corsi than zidlicky is Harrold.

The point is zidlicky has essentially become a power play specialist, and he's not even very good at it. His numbers 5v5 are close to terrible, and I cringe if I see him on the pk. We now have other guys who have shown they can contribute offensively from the blue line.

I know that as long as zidlicky is on the roster and healthy he will play, I'm just saying that's unfortunate.

 

I'm not sure how you can say that Zidlicky playing is a bad thing.  Corsi is a good tool as a team stat, but imo not so much as a player stat.

 

Zidlicky does stuff no other defenseman can do on this team.  He's a good skater, a passer, and a shooter.  He's the best defenseman we have at zone entries without having to dump the puck in.  He's really good at holding the zone.  He's the best defenseman with puck when under pressure.  There really is no other defenseman as good with the puck on this team as Zidlicky.

 

I like Volchenkov and Salvador, but what Zidlicky brings in today's game is more important than what Volch and Sal bring.  The need for two way defenseman is going up while the need for shutdown defenseman is going down.  If you wanna call Zid just a PP specialist, then you can pretty much call Volchenkov just a PK specialist.  To be perfectly honest, I'd rather we just keep both of them on this team and playing.  I wouldn't be opposed to running with 11 forwards and 7 defensemen.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 05:14 PM

You say zidlicky is the best at gaining the zone when for the past two weeks I've been seeing just the opposite, especially on the pp. The only pp goal we had recently other than gelinas' last night was with Greene leading the rush and scoring. Other than that it's looked pretty anemic.

Also Corsi can be used to evaluate individual players when you use it to compare to the rest of the team, and zidlicky compares poorly. In addition, I would say volchenkov's skill set is more unique to the team than zidlicky's at this point.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this... In the end both volchenkov and zidlicky will probably play over fayne and Merrill anyway. And I don't necessarily disagree dressing 7 d and just scratching janssen but that also will never happen.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:24 AM

The way this season has gone with injuries etc I'm not overly concerned with the defensive pairings. Few guys have been scratched for lengthy periods due to the injuries and I would expect that we'll see D go down with injuries going forward as well.

 

That being said, if someone has to go down I'd send down Merrill. He's been good and would look even better if someone could score while he's on the ice (2.3 sh% 5v5...) but this isn't "his" season. Rather than seeing a rushed trade (unless it's one of Sal, Volch or Harrold) I'd send him down. His contribution to the D corps isn't unique and the 2014 Merrill would benefit a lot from more time in the minors I think.


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:13 AM

Volchenkov's play is starting to inch closer to unacceptably poor at 5 on 5, though.  Zidlicky hasn't been any great shakes there either (possibly because of being paired with Volchenkov).  


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