MadDog2020 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 well Merril is scratch tnight Welcome back Peter Harrold, thank God he's back. I don't know how we've gotten by without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Welcome back Peter Harrold, thank God he's back. I don't know how we've gotten by without him.lol because you said this harrold with a goal and assist tonight and first star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Welcome back Peter Harrold, thank God he's back. I don't know how we've gotten by without him. I think they are just going with 6 defensemen and 12 forwards. Unorthodox, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No Zidlicky at practice. Perhaps I am reading way too much into this, but if Harrold is playing tonight (no indication that he is or is not), something might be afoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 harrold not playing tonight and looking like merrill will be out also.. brunner will most likely play waiting to see how he feels after practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I think they are just going with 6 defensemen and 12 forwards. Unorthodox, I know. No way. Entirely too crazy of an idea. Edited January 21, 2014 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Harrold can't play tonight unless one of Gelinas or Merrill is sent down. Like I said, the Devils are going to work around this Olympic thing - Merrill's likely to be sent down on or before January 24th, and he'll miss 3 more NHL games from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 harrold not playing tonight and looking like merrill will be out also.. brunner will most likely play waiting to see how he feels after practice So much for my speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I don't know much about advanced statistics so I could be wrong but isn't pk time over 50 games a bit of a small sample size- if gionta averages 1:45 pk toi that's about 70 minutes over the entire season, a few goals here or there can really sway the results. Also one of giontas benefits is he draws a ton of penalties (the most on the team last year). I'm don't necessarily disagree that josefson should be playing over gionta but I don't know if it's clear cut. I know Pete has made some head scratching decisions in the past but with the way he's played Fayne I can't believe he'd sit him now. Fayne has been a great partner for Greene and he trusts him on the pk, which if Merrill and gelinas stick around is needed. A few goals can sway results but even from a non statistics standpoint I don't like Gionta on the PK due to his lack of size and skating ability. Even if you want to say Josefson for Gionta is a wash on the PK, I still think Josefson makes much more of an impact 5v5 than Gionta can make. Drawing penalties is probably the only Gionta has been useful at and even so he only has a +2 penalty drawn/taken differential so far this year. I wouldn't put anything past DeBoer when it comes to Fayne. He used him on the top pair with Tallinder for a good portion of the 2011-12 season and then toyed with him being in and out of the line up last year. The weird thing about it is that from DeBoer's actions, he didn't think Fayne was good enough to be a constant in the line up but when he did play him, he gave him tough 5v5 minutes and competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wouldn't put anything past DeBoer when it comes to Fayne. He used him on the top pair with Tallinder for a good portion of the 2011-12 season and then toyed with him being in and out of the line up last year. The weird thing about it is that from DeBoer's actions, he didn't think Fayne was good enough to be a constant in the line up but when he did play him, he gave him tough 5v5 minutes and competition. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that in his mind he's sheltering him by pairing him with Greene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A few goals can sway results but even from a non statistics standpoint I don't like Gionta on the PK due to his lack of size and skating ability. Even if you want to say Josefson for Gionta is a wash on the PK, I still think Josefson makes much more of an impact 5v5 than Gionta can make. Drawing penalties is probably the only Gionta has been useful at and even so he only has a +2 penalty drawn/taken differential so far this year. Agreed. Also, for those saying things like, "Josefson/Gionta is a wash, so it doesn't really matter" ... Gionta has reached his full potential as a hockey player. He's 30 years old, and is not likely to get any better. Josefson, on the other hand, has a lot of developing to do, so why wouldn't you start the player who is likely to get better, even if there may not be that big of a difference right now? I don't really care whether Josefson would be that big of an upgrade over Gionta at this current moment. It just bothers me that he could have transformed into an effective player by the end of the year if he were given some NHL experience this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Eric Gelinas belongs on this team. He continues to prove it each and every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Eric Gelinas belongs on this team. He continues to prove it each and every night. who said that he didnt belong on this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 who said that he didnt belong on this team? Wasn't there like a bunch of people saying he should have been sent down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Boucher to AHL ? That open a spot... Trade ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Harrold off IR I'm going to assume :/ Merrill will go down next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Or Loiktionov gets released from the mummy case and actually plays a couple games for a while. Harrold off IR I'm going to assume :/ Merrill will go down next. That'll likely be the corresponding move when Harrold comes off IR. who said that he didnt belong on this team? The Devils when they publicly 'sent' Gelly down lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Boucher to AHL ? That open a spot... Trade ? Back to going with 7D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Boucher to AHL ? That open a spot... Trade ? I don't have an issue with this. He looked good while he was here. He's better off playing during the Olympic break, so I like it if he's sent down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 With Boucher going back down, I guess we can assume the Henrique injury isn't serious. And yeah, this probably means worthless Harrold is coming off IR. That will be you corresponding move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If that's the corresponding move they could've just announced both things simultaneously, though they could move Harrold through waivers without having to move anything else and then have Boucher back up for Friday's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If that's the corresponding move they could've just announced both things simultaneously, though they could move Harrold through waivers without having to move anything else and then have Boucher back up for Friday's game. Would Boucher being sent down have something to do with his eligibility to play in the AHL during the olympic break? I would imagine that was part of the reason. I still doubt any kind of outside help is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Man Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The sudden "health" of the forwards probably caused the move. 14 healthy forwards would mean two scratches every night. Might as well send Boucher down to get regular playing time, and rotate Loktionov and Josefson as the 12th forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 With Boucher going back down, I guess we can assume the Henrique injury isn't serious. And yeah, this probably means worthless Harrold is coming off IR. That will be you corresponding move. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Or Loiktionov gets released from the mummy case and actually plays a couple games for a while. That'll likely be the corresponding move when Harrold comes off IR. The Devils when they publicly 'sent' Gelly down lol but they never really sent him down...they did that to do something i forget what it was but he never even physically went to albany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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