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#561 Steadevils

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:01 PM

per TG "The NHL sent out a memo to all of its teams prior to this season informing them that any player who plays in 15 of the team’s final 20 game before the Olympic break will not be eligible to be sent to the AHL during that layoff."

 

11 games until the break, so we are 9 games in to that window. Off the top of my head Gelinas has played in 6 of those 9. Would be interesting to watch to see if Gelinas is held out of a few more games in order for him to play in the AHL during the break. Same thing goes for Merrill (held out of at least 1 of the last 9). I imagine Lou may want Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson all continuing to play in the AHL over the Olympic break...Just something to keep in mind when looking at the lineups over the next 11 games.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:52 PM

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Patrik Elias after first practice back with Devils: "I'm obviously the highest-paid fourth liner in the league."


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:06 PM

per TG "The NHL sent out a memo to all of its teams prior to this season informing them that any player who plays in 15 of the team’s final 20 game before the Olympic break will not be eligible to be sent to the AHL during that layoff."

 

11 games until the break, so we are 9 games in to that window. Off the top of my head Gelinas has played in 6 of those 9. Would be interesting to watch to see if Gelinas is held out of a few more games in order for him to play in the AHL during the break. Same thing goes for Merrill (held out of at least 1 of the last 9). I imagine Lou may want Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson all continuing to play in the AHL over the Olympic break...Just something to keep in mind when looking at the lineups over the next 11 games.

 

Yeah, I think that's what they're going to do - I'm more curious about Boucher and Sislo.  I think we may get Tedenby back up and one of those down pretty soon.  But yeah I could easily see them managing to get all their young guys down into the minors for the break.  


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:08 PM

If NJ can stay healthy up front for a long stretch I think the Elias Zubrus Brunner line may be a reality unless Elias and Boucher go on a hot streak, which is entirely possible. 


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:10 AM

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Patrik Elias after first practice back with Devils: "I'm obviously the highest-paid fourth liner in the league."

 

Honestly, I'd just move the current 3rd line down to the 4th line, and put Patty on the 3rd line in between Boosh and Sislo.  Sislo has shown the ability to score in the AHL, so I don't think he'll bring down Elias a whole lot.  It's time to see what Boosh and Sislo can really do instead of sheltering them on the 4th line.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:17 AM

Honestly, I'd just move the current 3rd line down to the 4th line, and put Patty on the 3rd line in between Boosh and Sislo.  Sislo has shown the ability to score in the AHL, so I don't think he'll bring down Elias a whole lot.  It's time to see what Boosh and Sislo can really do instead of sheltering them on the 4th line.

 

Yes...I'm not overly excited by Gionta playing 17.5 minutes.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 08:03 AM

Yeah, I think that's what they're going to do - I'm more curious about Boucher and Sislo.  I think we may get Tedenby back up and one of those down pretty soon.  But yeah I could easily see them managing to get all their young guys down into the minors for the break.  

 

Rather than Tedenby getting called up, I think it's more likely Elias comes back and Sislo gets sent down or sits and then Brunner comes back and Boucher gets sent down or sits.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:20 AM

Yes...I'm not overly excited by Gionta playing 17.5 minutes.

I'm a gionta supporter and I agree, but to be fair it was only 14.5 even strength, and when you're playing 7 defensemen some guys are gonna get higher than average toi.

Plus when we have a 2 goal lead Pete is going to trust giontas line before double shifting someone with Boucher and sislo.
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:32 AM

Rather than Tedenby getting called up, I think it's more likely Elias comes back and Sislo gets sent down or sits and then Brunner comes back and Boucher gets sent down or sits.

this is what iam hoping for.. so we can get back to a national hockey league roster again.. but by the time they both get back im sure someone else will go down.. just the way it seems to work around here
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

this is what iam hoping for.. so we can get back to a national hockey league roster again.. but by the time they both get back im sure someone else will go down.. just the way it seems to work around here

true, but there aren't many players as valuable to the team as patty is. I would say right now only zajac jagr and Greene would be bigger losses than patty has been.

Luckily we've been pretty good while he's been out but IMO if somebody like clowe goes down again even though he's playing well right now it doesn't hurt the team as much as losing one of those big 4.
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 10:59 AM

true, but there aren't many players as valuable to the team as patty is. I would say right now only zajac jagr and Greene would be bigger losses than patty has been.
Luckily we've been pretty good while he's been out but IMO if somebody like clowe goes down again even though he's playing well right now it doesn't hurt the team as much as losing one of those big 4.

agreed about clowe.. while his presence lately has been great and helpful we survived over 30 games with out him
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:01 AM

agreed about clowe.. while his presence lately has been great and helpful we survived over 30 games with out him

right obviously you'd like everyone healthy but there are definitely degrees to any injuries in terms of how it affects the team.
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:39 PM

When Brunner gets back: 9 D, six spots

 

Sal, Volch, Gelinas, Fanye, Greene, Zidlicky, Larsson, Merill, Harrold

 

Send Harry down, sit one of Sal/Volch, rotating door between Gelinas, Merill and Fanye.

 

Really need to trade one of these guys.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

too many Dmen and not enough jobs..jesus sounds like the real job market in america..lou needs to figure out a trade soon
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

Not looking forward to the forward lines tonight. Going with 11 forwards, but Elias is back. No clue how Pete cleans up this mess he left for himself.

 

Since there is no way Elias joins Boucher as one of the extra forwards...does he reunite the Bernier-Elias-Gionta line? And dump Carter with Boucher and a rotating gang?

 

What a waste. 


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:54 PM

Not looking forward to the forward lines tonight. Going with 11 forwards, but Elias is back. No clue how Pete cleans up this mess he left for himself.

 

Since there is no way Elias joins Boucher as one of the extra forwards...does he reunite the Bernier-Elias-Gionta line? And dump Carter with Boucher and a rotating gang?

 

What a waste. 

 

Why is there no way that this happens?  I think it's the most likely thing that happens - and that Elias gets his normal time on the PP and short-handed, and that they'll ease him back in with less than 15 minutes of ice time.  And like MacIsaac said in the other thread, maybe Gelinas plays as that line's RW.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:58 PM

Why is there no way that this happens?  I think it's the most likely thing that happens.

 

I'd just be shocked if he put Elias on the 4th line with one other forward. I know he mentioned that the other 3 lines were playing well enough that it be hard to split them...that seems fine when you can have Loktionov in with Elias and Boucher, but now with 11 forwards? 

 

So hypothetically, Elias is on the 4th line with Boucher, how many minutes does he get? Sislo and Boucher seemed to be getting 8 minutes max. That won't cut it with Elias now, so there is going to be a lot of work to rotate double shifting other players to get Elias his 14-15 minutes minimum. 


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:12 PM

I'd just be shocked if he put Elias on the 4th line with one other forward. I know he mentioned that the other 3 lines were playing well enough that it be hard to split them...that seems fine when you can have Loktionov in with Elias and Boucher, but now with 11 forwards? 

 

So hypothetically, Elias is on the 4th line with Boucher, how many minutes does he get? Sislo and Boucher seemed to be getting 8 minutes max. That won't cut it with Elias now, so there is going to be a lot of work to rotate double shifting other players to get Elias his 14-15 minutes minimum. 

 

They could do a lot of things with Elias.  One thing I could easily see is him replacing Zubrus for a few shifts on the Zubrus-Zajac-Jagr line.  That + PP + SH time would get him up to 15 minutes.  Or they could use Boucher on that line and go with Elias-Gionta-Bernier again, leaving Carter and Zubrus as extras.  


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:19 PM

Agree with Tri. Zuby-Zajac-Jagr has slowed down a bit, so if they aren't really going early I could see trying elias in for zubs for a while.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:24 PM

They could do a lot of things with Elias. One thing I could easily see is him replacing Zubrus for a few shifts on the Zubrus-Zajac-Jagr line. That + PP + SH time would get him up to 15 minutes. Or they could use Boucher on that line and go with Elias-Gionta-Bernier again, leaving Carter and Zubrus as extras.

yeah I'm sure Elias will find his ice time, plus there have been times where it seems like Pete likes to split the cbgb line for a few shifts (or games) and then reunite them as if it somehow sparks them up again.

I agree with most that with Elias needing to be eased back in the seven d thing is tough but honestly I like the flexibility Pete has had to play with his defensive pairings in certain situations. As I said yesterday I don't think we're going back to 6 d anytime soon.
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