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#601 thefiestygoat

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 06:34 PM

Gionta's been a better player than Josefson for the last two years.  Whether you want to blame Pete or not in terms of not giving Josefson much of a chance this year (he had one last year), it is what it is at this point.  And if Pete was being that unreasonable with his praise of Gio the guys in the locker room would start rolling their eyes.  It's possible he's popular in the room so that's part of the reason he gets the favored son treatment.

I strongly disagree.

 

Being jerked in and out of the line up and being scrutinized for your every move isn't easy as a 21 or 22 year old. Gionta isn't good at any facet of the game. Even Josefson not providing offense will at least make the better defensive reads and he is much better in passing and possession.

 

Why would players in the locker room roll their eyes? Guys like Gionta always tend to be popular in the locker room, it doesn't mean they are good. Some of the most popular players on teams I played on were the sh!tty guys because they brought "energy."


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:20 PM

The bottom line is this: Lou needs to move a defenseman out of here- and sooner rather than later would be preferable. Enough is enough. There's no way on earth Larsson should be in Albany right now. It's a fvcking crime and I feel bad for the kid.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:27 PM

The bottom line is this: Lou needs to move a defenseman out of here- and sooner rather than later would be preferable. Enough is enough. There's no way on earth Larsson should be in Albany right now. It's a fvcking crime and I feel bad for the kid.

exactly.. and not that i want to see larsson traded but if he is going to just be left in albany to rot away anyway id rather even have him traded if it is going to get us back a decent return that is going to help us up front.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

exactly.. and not that i want to see larsson traded but if he is going to just be left in albany to rot away anyway id rather even have him traded if it is going to get us back a decent return that is going to help us up front.

If Larsson isn't called back up after this trip, I may lose my sh!t.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

If Larsson isn't called back up after this trip, I may lose my sh!t.

would you rather have him up over either gelinas or merrill.. because if he comes up you know its going to be one of the other two that are going back down.. i want gelinas to stay up here with that shot he has we need that.. merrill i wouldnt mind seeing him go back down for now
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:45 PM

would you rather have him up over either gelinas or merrill.. because if he comes up you know its going to be one of the other two that are going back down.. i want gelinas to stay up here with that shot he has we need that.. merrill i wouldnt mind seeing him go back down for now

I agree with you- if anyone is sent down, it should be Merrill (of course in a perfect world, Salvador is moved out of here for anything we could get. I'd take a conditional 7th in 2045, I don't care). Merrill will be a very good NHL defenseman one day, but he has work to do. I'd be fine with a Merrill for Larsson swap.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:01 PM

Merrill belongs here more than Gelinas, goals aside.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:02 PM

Merrill belongs here more than Gelinas, goals aside.

 

We need Gelinas more than Merrill.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:06 PM

Merrill belongs here more than Gelinas, goals aside.

i know a lot of people feel this way.. but we needs gelinas offensive game hes more lethal then merrill in that aspect.. besides merrill makes plenty of mistakes himself i dont think one or the other is really much further ahead in the game
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:07 PM

We kinda do have the tukka and Thomas problem. Because Thomas isn't great either.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 12:43 AM

We kinda do have the tukka and Thomas problem. Because Thomas isn't great either.

 

Um yes he is.  And he was when he was with Boston.


i know a lot of people feel this way.. but we needs gelinas offensive game hes more lethal then merrill in that aspect.. besides merrill makes plenty of mistakes himself i dont think one or the other is really much further ahead in the game

 

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:01 AM

Um that was then. I mean with Florida. He's not great no more like he was with Boston
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:08 AM

Um that was then. I mean with Florida. He's not great no more like he was with Boston

 

He's been very good in Florida.  Especially in his last 10 games.  

 

BTW, you said we had a Rask and Thomas situation.  We don't have one because Thomas was great in Boston as was Rask.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:11 AM

Thomas is been average all season long
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:18 AM

Thomas is been average all season long

 

No he hasn't.

 

Regardless, you tried to compare Marty and Schneider to Rask and Thomas.  Not even close since Brodeur has been below average.  Rask and Thomas were both great when they were in Boston.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:20 AM

Thomas's season numbers are nothing but average. And I wasn't comparing them from the past, comparing them to now. Thomas isn't great. Schneider and Rask are. Broduer is below aver age but Thomas sure as hell hasn't been great. He's been okay. But that's it.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:28 AM

Thomas's season numbers are nothing but average. And I wasn't comparing them from the past, comparing them to now. Thomas isn't great. Schneider and Rask are. Broduer is below aver age but Thomas sure as hell hasn't been great. He's been okay. But that's it.

 

Except Thomas and Rask were teammates when Rask and Thomas were both great.

 

And Thomas has a SV% north of .935 in his past 10-15 games.  His overall SV% is also above league average.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:30 AM

If Larsson isn't called back up after this trip, I may lose my sh!t.

 

Larsson is probably in the minors now so he can play in the AHL during the Olympic break.  I don't think they'll get the chance to do this with all 3 defensemen who are eligible, but they very well may do it with 2.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:30 AM

Yet Marty has a better gaa then him.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:37 AM

Yet Marty has a better gaa then him.

 

Rask from 2009-2012: .927 SV% and 2.19 GAA

Thomas from 2009-2012: .926 SV% and 2.28 GAA

 

Brodeur this year: .905 SV% and 2.36 GAA

Schneider this year: .924 SV% and 1.91 GAA

 

So yea, how do we have the same goalie situation as Boston did?


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