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#761 Mike Brown

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:09 PM

I feel awful for Loktionov and Josefson.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:30 PM

@TGfireandice: Jagr on Josefson as new LW: “No. 4 this week. I started feeling bad. I’m telling myself it’s probably me or Travis.I’ve got to blame Travis."


Lmfao Jagr is awesome.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:25 AM

That's it for him. I don't really understand what they hope when you give a guy a few shifts, be it Whitney, Josefson, Loktionov, etc. Very hard to adjust to the NHL speed when either you have never played or have been sitting for weeks or months.

 

For Whitney, playing with a guy like Jagr is very tough. He doesn't like to make the simple play often, and to find any chemistry in 3 minutes with him is impossible. I thought Jagr had the chance to make the obvious play to Whitney a few times but looked for something different.

 

Asking way too much from Whitney and probably asking too much from Josefson if you only give him 6-7 minutes tomorrow before Pete inevitably goes back to Zubrus on the top line.

 

Whitney was awful from start to finish, it didn't matter who he was on a line with - forget linemates, his positioning in the D zone was like he'd been studying with Tedenby.  It was about as bad as an NHL debut as you can have, unfortunately.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:29 AM

Josefson is a very smart player so I really think he and Jagr could click. Either way he will be a defensive upgrade and a second man to take faceoffs so possession should go up right away.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 01:04 AM

@TGfireandice: Jagr on Josefson as new LW: “No. 4 this week. I started feeling bad. I’m telling myself it’s probably me or Travis.I’ve got to blame Travis."


Lmfao Jagr is awesome.

 

Imagine if we still had Parise.

 

Parise - Zajac - Jagr

 

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 02:02 AM

Some interesting stats of late.

 

Henrique 33 shots last 13 games, given his career 13% if he were to continue at this pace the rest of the season he would finish the season with 24 goals. I doubt he can keep up that pace but 20 goals seems pretty safe. 

 

Michael Ryder has 36 shots his last 13 games. Say Ryder finishes the season on a 2.5 shot per game pace and shoots at his 12% rate he is projected to finish the season with 25 goals.

 

Ryane Clowe has 27 shots his last 13 games which is right on pace with his career average for s/g. He also has 11 points in that time frame. This is a legit second line in tthe NHL that should average 7 shots per game the rest of the season.

 

NJ have averaged 30.1 shots on goal the last 11 games which is well above their season average. 


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:40 AM

 

 

NJ have averaged 30.1 shots on goal the last 11 games which is well above their season average. 

 

They're giving up more too, around 29 per game in the same stretch. Ah, imagine if Marty had started the majority of those games...*shudder*


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:00 PM

Plenty of score effect, NJ has had the lead quite often in those games.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:17 PM

Some interesting stats of late.

 

Henrique 33 shots last 13 games, given his career 13% if he were to continue at this pace the rest of the season he would finish the season with 24 goals. I doubt he can keep up that pace but 20 goals seems pretty safe. 

 

Michael Ryder has 36 shots his last 13 games. Say Ryder finishes the season on a 2.5 shot per game pace and shoots at his 12% rate he is projected to finish the season with 25 goals.

 

Ryane Clowe has 27 shots his last 13 games which is right on pace with his career average for s/g. He also has 11 points in that time frame. This is a legit second line in tthe NHL that should average 7 shots per game the rest of the season.

 

NJ have averaged 30.1 shots on goal the last 11 games which is well above their season average. 

Those are pretty good stats, and goes to show that speed, although important and dangerous, is not essential to hockey success. that could be the slowest line in the NHL. clowe had a horrible start and a brutal -4 Chicago game. but since then has been solid (still scares me in the D-zone).  strength and hands can trump speed, offensively


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 01:01 PM

Plenty of score effect, NJ has had the lead quite often in those games.

 

Ah, good point.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 03:35 PM

Jagr on Josefson:

 

 

Devils winger Jaromir Jagr said Jacob Josefson played extremely well when he stepped in to play on the first line Sunday.

"I thought he was one of the best players on the ice," Jagr said. "He didn't have that much ice time but every time he was on the ice he created plays. We didn't play very much, our whole line.

"Hopefully he can get better and better every game. He's a good player. People don't give him enough credit. He's a lot better than people think. He can make the plays offensively. Trust me, I could see it right away from the first practice."

 

http://www.nj.com/de...vs_rangers.html


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 04:27 PM

Jagr on Josefson:


http://www.nj.com/de...vs_rangers.html

hopefully Pete gives him an extended and legitimate look on that line. I feel like it's been a revolving door for a while. Let him get at lest 15 minutes a night and see what happens before you try to trade for a winger.
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 04:36 PM

Hell yeah Jagr, I really hope JJ gets an extended look now with Jagr backing him, I still haven't given up on Josefson.
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

I love seeing Jagr stand up for Josefson and lobby for him publicly.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:49 PM

Very interesting indeed. I sense a little disapproval on Jagr's part of DeBoer's treatment or impatience with Josefson.

 

He's talking about things like ice time and people not giving "him enough credit", and really, who else could he be talking about? Does he read message boards, or...?


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:52 PM

Josefson has the skillset of a top 6 forward, not the way he has been used. I feel once he get on a little bit of a role he will be an above .5 PPG player.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:13 PM

Josefson has the skillset of a top 6 forward, not the way he has been used. I feel once he get on a little bit of a role he will be an above .5 PPG player.

 

This is so incredibly unlikely.  He can't finish.  At best he's a Mikael Backlund sort.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:42 PM

i just hope jj finds some rhythm with the other 2 and they can finally have a solid first line
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:07 PM

This is so incredibly unlikely.  He can't finish.  At best he's a Mikael Backlund sort.

I don't know, but I'd at least like to see him get time with quality line mates like zajac and jägr. Th poor kid has been bouncing around line mates such as ponikarovsky, clarkson, Barch, Janssen, etc.

Nobody is going to look good constantly playing with those players.
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:50 PM

Elias - Zajac - Jagr

Clowe - Henrique - Ryder

Zubrus - Loktionov - Brunner

Carter - Gionta - Bernier

 

Greene - Fayne

Gelinas - Larsson

Volchenkov - Zidlicky

 

Do it Pete!


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