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#781 2ELIAS6

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:54 AM

And yet it didn't help Josefson get playing time, I guess Pete's tone-deaf to Jagr wanting to play with the kid.

doesnt matter what anyone thinks will be better or successful pete does whatever he wants regardless ..big boss pete
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:32 AM

The trouble wasn't that Josefson wasn't doing much with that line, it was that every other line was doing nothing.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:39 AM

The trouble wasn't that Josefson wasn't doing much with that line, it was that every other line was doing nothing.

 

Well he didn't leave much of an impression because Pete moved up Gionta in his place for one shift in the middle of the third. Gionta proceeded to get abused by Sobotka leading to the Blues getting an incredible chance. Later in that shift Salvador took his penalty and the game was over. Luckily, Pete saw enough and put Jacob back...but it shows how little faith or opportunity Pete is giving any of these young guys.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Well he didn't leave much of an impression because Pete moved up Gionta in his place for one shift in the middle of the third. Gionta proceeded to get abused by Sobotka leading to the Blues getting an incredible chance. Later in that shift Salvador took his penalty and the game was over. Luckily, Pete saw enough and put Jacob back...but it shows how little faith or opportunity Pete is giving any of these young guys.

 

Well, the good news is that if Josefson holds on for 4 or 5 years in Albany and becomes a 'veteran' in Pete's eyes, he'll have a Teflon-coated spot on the roster.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:22 PM

PDB drives me insane.  I don't know what more JJ has to do to earn regular time.

 

Pete loves his vets too much.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:52 PM

PDB drives me insane.  I don't know what more JJ has to do to earn regular time.
 
Pete loves his vets too much.

i dont really get it either.. i mean someone screws up and they cut their time cut or they get scratched but then you take salvador who plays like crap game in and game out most of the time and he has a ton of play time
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

PDB drives me insane.  I don't know what more JJ has to do to earn regular time.

 

Pete loves his vets too much.

 

He has to score.  He has 4 points in his last 40 games here.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

PDB drives me insane.  I don't know what more JJ has to do to earn regular time.

 

Pete loves his vets too much.

 

If he puts up some points, it'll be impossible to scratch him with how this team struggles. Of course those words from Jagr don't hurt.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

He has to score.  He has 4 points in his last 40 games here.

What would Zajac put up with the same linemates as Josefson over those 40 games?


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

What would Zajac put up with the same linemates as Josefson over those 40 games?

 

More, because he's a better player.  Josefson's problem is that he doesn't shoot and he doesn't score when he does shoot.  6 goals in 100 games.  That's bad regardless of who you play with, and Josefson hasn't played with chopped liver the whole time he's been here.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

Tri's got it here. JJ doesn't produce enough. Now, I think he'd be worth more on the 4th line where can produce terribly and still play better than Gionta - but this is the position he's in. At somepoint you need to get on the scoresheet or do other things.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

He has to score.  He has 4 points in his last 40 games here.

 

Well HE has to score, but obviously that isn't case for all the players on this team. And I know that you know that there isn't much Gio does better than Josefson.  But with the different standards for different players, then yes, he has to score. 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

Zajac put up .44 points per game with Kovalchuk and Jagr the last 3 years getting a large amount of PP time. You put Josefson in the same situation and he would put up similar numbers. 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

There is different standards for different players.

 

Bernier can do some other stuff, but let's be honest - do we want CBGB around anymore Gio and Bernier are FAs...Slot JJ in there and a guy like Sislo and I'm happy. Bernier doesn't do much either.


Zajac put up .44 points per game with Kovalchuk and Jagr the last 3 years getting a large amount of PP time. You put Josefson in the same situation and he would put up similar numbers. 

 

My only thing with JJ is put him with Brunner and Elias. Those guys should play together and let's keep Zubrus/Zajac/Jagr as a line and see what happens. I'm not sure the kind of possesion they are going to get but it's worth a shot.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:01 PM

Zajac put up .44 points per game with Kovalchuk and Jagr the last 3 years getting a large amount of PP time. You put Josefson in the same situation and he would put up similar numbers. 

 

I doubt it because again, he's a worse shooter and shoots less.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:03 PM

I doubt it because again, he's a worse shooter and shoots less.

He is also a more creative player and a better passer, I believe for sure he would be a better power play guy. That is a discussion for another day however, lets work on 5 on 5 first.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:36 AM

What time is practice today? Anyone know what the lines are? I'm hoping Merrill is in at least...
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:41 AM

What time is practice today? Anyone know what the lines are? I'm hoping Merrill is in at least...

 

11:30 CET.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:50 AM

11:30 CET.

thanks! It'll be interesting to see how Pete responds- he usually is quick to tinker with things if we're going bad, but at the same time there's not a lot of room for error here.
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

What time is practice today? Anyone know what the lines are? I'm hoping Merrill is in at least...

 

Practice? Practice!? We talkin 'bout practice!? Not a game, practice....

 

Game day.


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