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#901 Triumph

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 01:55 PM

Where he'll play for all of 10 minutes, maybe.  PDB will then throw him onto the 4th line or bench him, and go back to his familiar lines.  Just like he did with JJ.

 

Loktionov has played in 42 games this year.  He has played most of them off the 4th line - indeed, he averages 13:31 ice time per game.  I can understand this attitude, though, because Loktionov has not done all that much with that ice time, so sometimes it can be hard to notice him.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 05:21 PM

Where he'll play for all of 10 minutes, maybe.  PDB will then throw him onto the 4th line or bench him, and go back to his familiar lines.  Just like he did with JJ.

 

This is what bugs me.  If you're gonna make a move like that, play them for the same 17-20 minutes as a normal top line center would play.  Boucher when here was getting 12 minutes a game.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 06:33 PM

This is what bugs me. If you're gonna make a move like that, play them for the same 17-20 minutes as a normal top line center would play. Boucher when here was getting 12 minutes a game.

this is fair so long as you understand that toi doesn't occur in a vacuum- by giving loktionov more minutes it takes away from zajac's and henrique's, and I'm jot sure that's the right thing to do. Similarly with Boucher you'd be taking minutes from clowe zubrus and elias(when he was healthy).

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:10 PM

this is fair so long as you understand that toi doesn't occur in a vacuum- by giving loktionov more minutes it takes away from zajac's and henrique's, and I'm jot sure that's the right thing to do. Similarly with Boucher you'd be taking minutes from clowe zubrus and elias(when he was healthy).

 

True but I don't think an additional 3-4 minutes is a huge deal.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:24 PM

True but I don't think an additional 3-4 minutes is a huge deal.

 

3-4 minutes a game becomes a big deal. Since you play that much more over a longer period of time. You can't score if you're not on the ice. If you consistently take that time away from a better player to give to an inferior one, you will get less goals overall.  


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:02 AM

3-4 minutes a game becomes a big deal. Since you play that much more over a longer period of time. You can't score if you're not on the ice. If you consistently take that time away from a better player to give to an inferior one, you will get less goals overall.  

 

Well you can simply take away minutes from the CBGB line as well.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:12 AM

Well you can simply take away minutes from the CBGB line as well.

that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:37 AM

that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...

 

(technically.. People are complaining way too much all the time) (but that's just me... ) 

(and i'm French.. it's second nature to complain for me ! So.. that speak volume ) 


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:44 AM

(technically.. People are complaining way too much all the time) (but that's just me... )
(and i'm French.. it's second nature to complain for me ! So.. that speak volume )

hey don't be so hard in the french- when I visited Paris I found very little complaining.

Now those french canadiens are another story...
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:50 PM

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:38 PM

that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...

 

I'm talking about Loktionov and only Loktionov.  Give Gionta like 8 minutes.  And give Loktionov like 15 minutes.  That way, the whole line can get a good amount of ice time, and not 2/3 of it.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 02:51 PM

So it turns out a couple of us here called it.. Lokti got booted off that top unit pretty early on.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 02:57 PM

Other then a tap in goal, Loktionov really wasn't playing that well. Boucher will be back up after the Olympic break and NJ will assess if they need to make a move. 


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 03:38 PM

Other then a tap in goal, Loktionov really wasn't playing that well. Boucher will be back up after the Olympic break and NJ will assess if they need to make a move. 

 

Kind of irrelevant. He got that goal and was decent enough. What more could you ask in 5-6 min of hockey? Once again the mid game line changes did nothing. Stephen Gionta was continuing to throw pucks at teammates' feet and was having trouble corralling a pass, yet he gets moved up to the second line, which everyone knows will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be a good move. I don't think that line had a good shift after.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:22 PM

At the very least Gelinas needs to be in the lineup after the Olympic break. This team needs every goal it can possibly get.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:29 PM

Erat lmfao. I'm following online because I'm not home, I'm gonna need a recap of the Pete presser. TG better fire away.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:35 PM

Yeah wrong thread there obviously lol.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:44 PM

At the very least Gelinas needs to be in the lineup after the Olympic break. This team needs every goal it can possibly get.


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Agreed.  We're 0-12 on the PP since sending him down.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:04 PM

Erat lmfao. I'm following online because I'm not home, I'm gonna need a recap of the Pete presser. TG better fire away.

 

Nothing to recap, they showed three meh questions all from Deb.  Maybe Lou barred the other beat guys from asking anything :P


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:11 PM

Nothing to recap, they showed three meh questions all from Deb.  Maybe Lou barred the other beat guys from asking anything :P

 

LOL. Deb. That's great. This organization has absolutely zero accountability from top to bottom and everyone in it knows it. Brooks was spot on in his article a month or two back. 


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