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#921 thefiestygoat

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:22 PM

If the Devils struggle to pick up points in 4 games after the break, does Jagr request a trade?


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:26 PM

Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller:
Patrkk Elias on if #Devils need to trade for a scorer to reach playoffs. "It seems that way".


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller:
Patrkk Elias on if #Devils need to trade for a scorer to reach playoffs. "It seems that way".


The idea of a trade at this point is starting to scare me. I'm afraid that Lou still thinks it's 2000 and we're a Mogilny trade away from being a Cup team. Unfortunately he'll end up trading someone like Gelinas, a young player that has provided actual documented help on the offense, for someone like Erat.

My hope among hopes is that Lou gets rid of Salvador. And it's not because I think he's a bad as people think. Even if Salvador is actually a "shut down defenseman", the team has plenty of those guys, and needs to score some fvcking goals. Even the most deluded Salvador advocate realizes he doesn't contribute to that at all.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:41 PM

The idea of a trade at this point is starting to scare me. I'm afraid that Lou still thinks it's 2000 and we're a Mogilny trade away from being a Cup team. Unfortunately he'll end up trading someone like Gelinas, a young player that has provided actual documented help on the offense, for someone like Erat.

My hope among hopes is that Lou gets rid of Salvador. And it's not because I think he's a bad as people think. Even if Salvador is actually a "shut down defenseman", the team has plenty of those guys, and needs to score some fvcking goals. Even the most deluded Salvador advocate realizes he doesn't contribute to that at all.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 12:00 AM

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 05:00 AM

I get that Gelinas' defense needs some work, but our power play really needs help right now. Some PP numbers: Gelinas FF20: 22.9. Greene: 20.1 Zidlicky: 16.4. That's a difference of ~18 unblocked shots per 60 minutes between Gelinas and Zidlicky. Yet Zidlicky got more PP icetime. GF20: Gelinas 3,1 Greene 2,25 Zidlicky 1,97.

 

Zidlicky: 161 minutes, 24 shots on goal.

Greene: 133 minutes, 21 shots on goal.

Gelinas: 94 minutes, 32 shots on goal.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:18 AM

I think we can agree both Larsson and Gelinas both played their best when they were playing together which I believe they are doing it down in the AHL - at return from the break, it will be a month. So I don't see where the issue could be, given we need some more scoring and shot generation to get those two up here who can help move the puck and get them on net. Of course we'd need to move a D or 2 to do that.

 

I think it's time to trade Zidlicky. Get a pick for him.

 

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:43 AM

I would honestly like to see how he would do in a forward position.. just for a game or two if it doesnt work it doesnt work..I wonder if theyve tried him up front in practice
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:25 PM

I get that Gelinas' defense needs some work, but our power play really needs help right now. Some PP numbers: Gelinas FF20: 22.9. Greene: 20.1 Zidlicky: 16.4. That's a difference of ~18 unblocked shots per 60 minutes between Gelinas and Zidlicky. Yet Zidlicky got more PP icetime. GF20: Gelinas 3,1 Greene 2,25 Zidlicky 1,97.

 

Zidlicky: 161 minutes, 24 shots on goal.

Greene: 133 minutes, 21 shots on goal.

Gelinas: 94 minutes, 32 shots on goal.

 

Thank you!  We agree!  We're 0-12 on the PP since sending him down.  We dropped from 7th in the league to 14th.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:26 PM

Can anyone please tell me what they think the chances of Larsson re-signing with the team in the summer are? It seems his reward for playing well and getting injured is getting dumped into the AHL. Which must be really discouraging for him especially when the likes of Harrold get injured and then come straight back to the team and rookies like Merril are kept up ahead of him.

 

I'd hate to see Larsson go but I'm not sure Lou rates him as he's spending more time in the AHL now than when he was a rookie.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:30 PM

Can anyone please tell me what they think the chances of Larsson re-signing with the team in the summer are? It seems his reward for playing well and getting injured is getting dumped into the AHL. Which must be really discouraging for him especially when the likes of Harrold get injured and then come straight back to the team and rookies like Merril are kept up ahead of him.

 

I'd hate to see Larsson go but I'm not sure Lou rates him as he's spending more time in the AHL now than when he was a rookie.

 

he's not going anywhere and couldn't if he wanted to, he's not a UFA for a looooong time


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:00 PM

I get that Gelinas' defense needs some work, but our power play really needs help right now. Some PP numbers: Gelinas FF20: 22.9. Greene: 20.1 Zidlicky: 16.4. That's a difference of ~18 unblocked shots per 60 minutes between Gelinas and Zidlicky. Yet Zidlicky got more PP icetime. GF20: Gelinas 3,1 Greene 2,25 Zidlicky 1,97.

 

Zidlicky: 161 minutes, 24 shots on goal.

Greene: 133 minutes, 21 shots on goal.

Gelinas: 94 minutes, 32 shots on goal.

 

The Devils know this.  They know it because they tried to use Gelinas as a PP specialist for a few games.  But it wasn't doing anyone any favors - they aren't going to potentially mess up Gelinas's future by continuing to use him that way (or using him at ES when he's been bad there for the last 20+ games).


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:55 PM

Can anyone please tell me what they think the chances of Larsson re-signing with the team in the summer are? It seems his reward for playing well and getting injured is getting dumped into the AHL. Which must be really discouraging for him especially when the likes of Harrold get injured and then come straight back to the team and rookies like Merril are kept up ahead of him.

 

I'd hate to see Larsson go but I'm not sure Lou rates him as he's spending more time in the AHL now than when he was a rookie.

 

Yeah the Devils own Larsson for a while thankfully.  He's not going anywhere soon, unless he holds-out for a better contract/trade ..but I don't think he's the kinda player who will do that.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:00 PM

Trade Marty, Jags, Zids, Sal, Volch and Gio. Replace them with Kinkaid, Buoch, Gelinas, Larsson, Severson and JJ. Let the youth movement start this season.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:32 AM

Yeah the Devils own Larsson for a while thankfully.  He's not going anywhere soon, unless he holds-out for a better contract/trade ..but I don't think he's the kinda player who will do that.

 

The latter part I think is very true with Adam. It's been floated that he might go KHL/SHL after this season but I can't see it. KHL has zero appeal to young Swedes capable of playing in the NHL.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:51 AM

Can anyone please tell me what they think the chances of Larsson re-signing with the team in the summer are? It seems his reward for playing well and getting injured is getting dumped into the AHL. Which must be really discouraging for him especially when the likes of Harrold get injured and then come straight back to the team and rookies like Merril are kept up ahead of him.

 

I'd hate to see Larsson go but I'm not sure Lou rates him as he's spending more time in the AHL now than when he was a rookie.

 

His time in the AHL is probably mostly due to them wanting him there for the Olympic break. It wouldn't shock me to to either see a move to make room for him when they come back, or at the very least, him being swapped for Merrill. Nothing against Merrill, he's just the only guy who wouldn't have to pass waivers. 


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 11:03 AM

The latter part I think is very true with Adam. It's been floated that he might go KHL/SHL after this season but I can't see it. KHL has zero appeal to young Swedes capable of playing in the NHL.

 

SHL?  That'd be utterly ridiculous.  He's waiver-eligible next year, so he'll be on the team no matter what.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 11:15 AM

The latter part I think is very true with Adam. It's been floated that he might go KHL/SHL after this season but I can't see it. KHL has zero appeal to young Swedes capable of playing in the NHL.

 

Tim Erixson has been jerked around more than Larsson, and he's still here.  He has to have a real chip on his shoulder to leave the NHL.  And even then, he'd probably ask Lou for a trade before he goes down that road, sort of like what Niedereitter was reported to have done. 


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 12:04 PM

Tim Erixson has been jerked around more than Larsson, and he's still here.  He has to have a real chip on his shoulder to leave the NHL.  And even then, he'd probably ask Lou for a trade before he goes down that road, sort of like what Niedereitter was reported to have done. 

 

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 11:23 AM

Well some fans get their wish. Gelinas in and Volchenkov steps out. It's unfortunate that Anton was always going to be the odd man out whenthe coaching staff realized that him and Sal both couldn't hold 2 of the 6 spots. Salvador's spot was always going to be safe.


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