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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

There's no way it's Zidlicky or Greene.  It's gotta be Volch or Harrold, assuming Fayne doesn't qualify as a 'vet' defenseman.  I don't see how they get rid of Volch though unless they take back half the cap hit/salary.  Would someone take him at $2.1 million for 3 years?  Possibly.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:29 AM

 I don't see how they get rid of Volch though unless they take back half the cap hit/salary.  Would someone take him at $2.1 million for 3 years?  Possibly.

 

Edmonton would...when Tambellini was the GM. '

 

What sucks about this is that I see three scenarios...none too pleasing.

 

- Waive Harrold. Then you get Larsson/Fayne/Gelinas rotating in/out, until Volchenkov's game drops off enough so that he's the scratch.

- Trade Fayne. Which just sucks. 

- Demote Gelinas. Things go back to normal.

 

I can't see a scenario where they somehow get rid of Salvador or Volchenkov. Not as the land lies now. To me the future needs to be the present and I'd sure as hell rather see them miss the playoffs with Merrill, Gelinas and Larsson than Salvador, Volchenkov and Harrold. In many ways I like their chances better with the youngsters, because I'm not confident in what the veterans bring.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:29 AM

From Bruce Garrioch http://www.ottawasun...good-trade-bait

Now Bruce is usually full of speculation and junk, but this is a direct fact he's alledging happened.

I can't imagine it being Andy or Marek. As much as people love or hate Zid, he's our top scorer at the moment...and adding it into Gelly, Greene - we have more offensive minded that I can remember having in quite some time. If we drop out of the playoff, but Zid continues to produce, he will be worth a small ransom given his contract status and ability.

It's not going to be Sal.


I could actually see it being Sal.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:30 AM

I could actually see it being Sal.


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Elaborate.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

Elaborate.


He doesn't have an NTC, which Vokchenkov has. And he has that "leadership" quality that some GMs like. That he was the captain during one of the worst stretches in the teams history won't save him.

Without knowing that much about their defensive depth, I could see Minnesota as a possibility.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

He doesn't have an NTC, which Vokchenkov has. And he has that "leadership" quality that some GMs like. That he was the captain during one of the worst stretches in the teams history won't save him.

Without knowing that much about their defensive depth, I could see Minnesota as a possibility.


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Would mean Devils retain salary and take a crap contract back, which essentially would be a wash. Though it saves you the embarassment of demoting your captain (which of course won't happen).


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:04 AM

St. Louis fans still seem pretty high on Sal. Do they need a defender like him right now? I know they have some good pmds.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:06 AM

It would be a waste to have him in over JJ at forward. Rather see him waived.


Yeah I guess it would have made more sense last year when guys like poni were in our line up.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:35 AM

Larsson is playing pretty good right now. But god I wish he would've turned into an OEL type of player, Larsson is playing good right now imo , but watching highlights by Oliver Ekman-Larsson, I mean this kid is something.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:44 AM

I think the most eye-opening and surprising part of that whole Garrioch blurb is that Lou uses e-mail. :P


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:48 AM

I think the most eye-opening and surprising part of that whole Garrioch blurb is that Lou uses e-mail. :P

 

Yeah, this is why I thought this story was a lie.  I'd believe he uses carrier pigeons over email.

 

Fayne's been in the league 3 years and probably has as many if not more games played than Peter Harrold.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:51 AM

Larsson is playing pretty good right now. But god I wish he would've turned into an OEL type of player, Larsson is playing good right now imo , but watching highlights by Oliver Ekman-Larsson, I mean this kid is something.

 

OEL is also 18 months older than Larsson. Yeah, OEL was a superior defender in every way last year. But there's that at least.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:25 AM

OEL is also 18 months older than Larsson. Yeah, OEL was a superior defender in every way last year. But there's that at least.

Yeah I agree, but I don't think that in 18 months, Larsson will be at the same level as OEL is right now. Granted, OEL plays a lot more, but still.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 12:56 PM

Yeah I agree, but I don't think that in 18 months, Larsson will be at the same level as OEL is right now. Granted, OEL plays a lot more, but still.

 

You basically have two, maybw three defensemen under 25 that you can say is on the same level as OEL. Adam Larsson will not be as good as OEL, and if Larsson is as good at 25 as OEL is at 22, then we should be doing cartwheels of joy.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 01:56 PM

He doesn't have an NTC, which Vokchenkov has. And he has that "leadership" quality that some GMs like. That he was the captain during one of the worst stretches in the teams history won't save him.

Without knowing that much about their defensive depth, I could see Minnesota as a possibility.


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I don't think that rationale holds up since Pete's still hanging around despite the record mostly because the team hasn't quit.  If the team's effort has saved Pete as coach, it'll probably save Sal as captain too.  Especially since he's actually been playing better this year than last.

 

The only sliver of a reason they might trade Sal is they need to get rid of a lefty defenseman if they want to keep Gelinas around and satisfy Pete's need to have three lefties and three righties in the lineup.  It's clearly not going to be Greene and it likely can't be Volch.  But I don't see it happening, I think they just McGillis Volch first and buy him out at the end of the year.  Or trade Fayne and force Pete to play four lefties.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:09 PM

Anton is the one guy they've showed a willingness to play the left and right. He's been paired with Sal for long stretches at evens as a RD.

It can happen.

We won't be happy, but it makes sense that Fayne is dealt - hopefully for a 3rd. I wonder if a Fayne/Tedenby package could bring something worthwhile back.

Fayne/Teddy/2nd for Edmonton 1st?

Then you go:

Greene-Zidlicky
Salvador-Volchenkov
Gelinas-Larsson
Harrold

Merrill as 1st call up in case of injury.

Fayne will likely be gone next year anyway.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:52 PM

Haha c'mon, Edmonton isn't making a trade like that.  They're not dealing their 1st except for a star.

 

My guess is that Tedenby is waived, and this will buy them some time.  They shouldn't deal Fayne to make room for Gelinas.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:04 PM

Haha c'mon, Edmonton isn't making a trade like that.  They're not dealing their 1st except for a star.

 

My guess is that Tedenby is waived, and this will buy them some time.  They shouldn't deal Fayne to make room for Gelinas.

 

going with 8 d is a mistake. i don't know what other d move there is other than IR harrold. that buys you a little time. i don't know who else they're dealing. i think we've seen enough from gelinas to prove he's not going to turn into a pumpkin. do i expect a point per game performance and PP points galore? probably not. but he has clearly proven that he's a PP weapon and doesn't appear overmatched at all at this level.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:35 PM

going with 8 d is a mistake. i don't know what other d move there is other than IR harrold. that buys you a little time. i don't know who else they're dealing. i think we've seen enough from gelinas to prove he's not going to turn into a pumpkin. do i expect a point per game performance and PP points galore? probably not. but he has clearly proven that he's a PP weapon and doesn't appear overmatched at all at this level.

 

I guess it all depends on how confident they are that Merrill can play the right side.  The Devils look like they have a ton of D depth now, but one injury to the wrong guy (Greene, maybe Zidlicky) and all the sudden it could look ugly.  That's why I want Fayne - I know he can play 22 minutes a game in the NHL and do well.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:37 PM

Haha c'mon, Edmonton isn't making a trade like that.  They're not dealing their 1st except for a star.

 

My guess is that Tedenby is waived, and this will buy them some time.  They shouldn't deal Fayne to make room for Gelinas.

I agree. Trading Fayne isn't a step forward, it's a step backwards.Even if Gelinas or Merril could come up and play well, it's unlikely they would play better than Fayne, at least consistently.


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