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#1421 Mike Brown

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:26 PM

Do you ever fvcking read anything before you post?  Jesus christ.  I'm normally one of your defenders but PEOPLE HAVE POSTED THIS ALREADY

 

I always post first then read the thread.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:28 PM

Do you ever fvcking read anything before you post?  Jesus christ.  I'm normally one of your defenders but PEOPLE HAVE POSTED THIS ALREADY

 

Nah, why would he do that? The post count is more important than the content.

 

Also, I'm so done with DeBoer. The double standard is awful and just flat out unacceptable.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:29 PM

How about Detroit at home the day before the trade deadline? Yeah, Cory lost to San Jose but he beat Columbus coming out of the break and Marty beat the Isles. Why should MB41 have gotten the first Detroit game? He stood to get one of the back to backs the following weekend anyway.

 

Schneider wasn't good in either game - it's not really defensible, given that we've seen that the Devils season is like Whose Line Is It Anyway - the rules are made up and the points don't matter.  But if you were starting each guy on an equal footing, for some reason, that's what you'd do.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:30 PM

Schneider wasn't good in either game - it's not really defensible, given that we've seen that the Devils season is like Whose Line Is It Anyway - the rules are made up and the points don't matter.  But if you were starting each guy on an equal footing, for some reason, that's what you'd do.

 

That's a great fvcking line. Bravo sir.

 

I for one was fine with Mike Brown's post. I had taken a nap and thought the whole thing was a dream until he reminded me it wasn't.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:30 AM

Honestly, I'm still not completely over the Johnny Mac for Doug Bodger trade. Maybe I should be at this point, but he was my favorite player and it was heartbreaking to see him in another jersey after I really thought he'd be our first number retired.

 

I remember when he had stated that he had asked Lou for a trade in a pre-game interview...actually made me feel a little sick.  Really bummed me out at the time.  Kind of sucked that he never gave his new role a chance.  That's part of what made Stevens so special...the guy has an awesome offensive season in '93-'94, and the Devils ask him to become more of a defensive guy.  He did it without complaint. 

 

 

I always annoy first then derail the thread.

 

Fixed.

 

Seriously, what was the point of posting something everyone already knew?  You'll play the "who, me?" card, but you know full well what you're doing when you pull crap like that.  Is it so hard to heed the advice that YOU yourself asked for in PMs to multiple members?  If you took any of it, you wouldn't keep pissing people off. 


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:13 AM

I don't have an issue with Marty starting.  I am fine with either guy getting the start because I think they can both play and get us a W.  I think Marty is starting because we've had 3 days off as a team, and 4 for him.    If we are actually able to sneak into the playoffs, who do people think is going to be the starter then?  Do you think we'll continue to see the back and forth time splitting stuff that we have seen pretty much all season?    I see that people are furious already, and even though I'm not in that group at the moment, I would in fact be beyond pissed if they continued in the post-season because I do not believe in that in the playoffs when there's pretty much a game every other day and it matters the most.   If we sneak in, personally I think Brodeur gets most of the starts initially because he's the proven guy with experience and it could be his last shot at it.  I think he's on a short leash though and if he chokes or has trouble in 1 or 2 games at most then I think Cory gets the nod from there on and that is effectively the end of Brodeur.    That's how I'd do it, anyway. 

 

Oh, and speaking of our lineup...I am not in favor of Gelinas as a forward.  He just needs further development at DEFENSE.  No need to remove his offensive talents from the blueline and take up a forward spot.  Do no like that move at all, even if it's not "permanent" as DeBoer has said.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:50 AM

Just saw this- Marty in net tomorrow per mike brown on njdevs.com.

He's usually pretty reliable but a little slow.
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:51 AM

I remember when he had stated that he had asked Lou for a trade in a pre-game interview...actually made me feel a little sick.  Really bummed me out at the time.  Kind of sucked that he never gave his new role a chance.  That's part of what made Stevens so special...the guy has an awesome offensive season in '93-'94, and the Devils ask him to become more of a defensive guy.  He did it without complaint. 

 

Stevens was still getting a bilion minutes a game, or at least I'd assume.  MacLean wasn't, IIRC, and he was up for a new contract - it's hard to blame him.  Somehow he played almost 22 minutes a game for the Rangers the next season.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:41 AM

Stevens was still getting a bilion minutes a game, or at least I'd assume.  MacLean wasn't, IIRC, and he was up for a new contract - it's hard to blame him.  Somehow he played almost 22 minutes a game for the Rangers the next season.

 

That 22 mins per game was out of necessity...that Ranger team had a hell of a time putting the puck in the net.  MacLean was actually second in goals on that team, with 28.  There were some young players on that team went on to do a lot more with other teams (Savard, Knuble and Malhotra), and some others that had already had their better days elsewhere (Kevin Stevens, Ulf Samuelsson). 

 

In MacLean's defense, he was only 33 when he decided he didn't like his new role...if he was 35-36, maybe he wouldn't have fought it.  I never held it against him, but I think it's too bad only from the standpoint that I would've loved it if he enjoyed more years here in his new role.  Outside of that 28-goal season on a bad team, it's not like he enjoyed a lot of prolific scoring seasons after he left.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 11:53 AM

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

The important thing here is that Gelly gets to play, Yayo gets to play as well.  I really really hope that Josefson can solidify a spot as our 3rd line or 4th line center for a while.  Give him some ice time, he could really take on the role.  You know, that checking center who can score some goals.  On a positive note, that young D-man, can't seem to remember his name.....Oh Larsson! That's his name.  He's scoring a decent amount in the A and gaining a lot of confidence it seems.  We can hope that this improvement carries over into the NHL when we see him again.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:08 PM

would like to see what gelinas looks like up front.. although i think pete already said thats not going to happen..atleast i think i read that somewhere
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:32 PM

I am quoting DR33 three times to highlight just how over the top and unilateral this Brodeur hate is getting:

 

I've never been more upset to be right about anything...well ever. When you look back at some of the games that Brodeur cost the Devils all season, the 3-2 loss to the Yotes comes right to mind. Marty let in 3 atrocious goals in that one.

 

Maybe Marty asked for this one too...

 

In the past month I have written a post or two complimenting your status on the boards and your credibility around here. This imho, is not a welcome tactic.

 

Brodeur being rusty wasn't an issue when Cory played how many games in a row after the outdoor classic. 

 

They needed to play Brodeur before the Outdoor game , so he wouldn't be rusty for the outdoor game. That worked well. Now they need the one of the worst goalies statistically not to be rusty for...for...for...The fvcking playoffs are on the line. Go with the better goalie and not worry about anyone else.

 

Again, for me this goes back to the chat Lou and Marty had after the break. Marty was down and out, but came back after the deadline really happy with his role. A role that I imagine was told would change. He wanted to be part of the push for the playoffs, and I think he was guaranteed he would. No reason to start him tomorrow otherwise. If Cory posted a shootout, you "risk" losing Marty again like Pete did after the Rangers debacle. This was probably promised to Brodeur that it would not happen again. 

 

"imagine" is a great word to use here. You are letting your imagination get the better of you.

 

Sadly, the only fool Marty has been fooling is the GM of the New Jersey Devils. The rest of the league is not going to be interested. When I say the rest of the league, I mean the 3-4 teams that Brodeur has on his "want to sign with" list, which right now probably reads..."whomever the Eastern and Western Conference Finals' representatives will be" 

 

 

i must admit - these jabs at marty are great and i agree that he's more harm than good these days, but you'd think it's now a question whether DM will put his jersey on the header of the page when it's retired...

 

QFT.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:35 PM

@TGfireandice: Schneider will start vs. Isles Saturday. Salvador seeing doctor today, won't play Saturday.


Glorious news on both fronts.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:47 PM

I am quoting DR33 three times to highlight just how over the top and unilateral this Brodeur hate is getting:

 

 

In the past month I have written a post or two complimenting your status on the boards and your credibility around here. This imho, is not a welcome tactic.

 

 

"imagine" is a great word to use here. You are letting your imagination get the better of you.

 

 

 

 

QFT.


 

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I see things one way. You see things the other. Going back and looking at ridiculous posts isn't a great game you should play. I have no problem with any of the posts you have quoted for me.

 

I have never said Brodeur playing has cost us the playoffs. Just that it is very clear him playing so many games does not give the team the best chance to win. I don't hate Brodeur. I think you can find dozens of more spiteful posts around here than anything I have said or you quoted. 

 

I don't mind cheering for a losing team. I cheer for a lot of losers and the Devils. What I hate is complete and utter roster mismanagement. I hate inept people having jobs in either management, coaching or playing. This year there has been a lot of ineptitude around this organization. Enough smart people around hockey see it.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:20 PM

@TGfireandice: Schneider will start vs. Isles Saturday. Salvador seeing doctor today, won't play Saturday.


Glorious news on both fronts.

 

What's wrong with Salvador's eyes?   :lol:


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:33 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:42 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?

 

I don't think he's much more than a big body at this point.  A PDB type player for sure, can forecheck but can't score.

 

Therefore, he'll be around a for a few years yet.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 04:45 PM

I see things one way. You see things the other. Going back and looking at ridiculous posts isn't a great game you should play. I have no problem with any of the posts you have quoted for me.

 

I have never said Brodeur playing has cost us the playoffs. Just that it is very clear him playing so many games does not give the team the best chance to win. I don't hate Brodeur. I think you can find dozens of more spiteful posts around here than anything I have said or you quoted. 

 

I don't mind cheering for a losing team. I cheer for a lot of losers and the Devils. What I hate is complete and utter roster mismanagement. I hate inept people having jobs in either management, coaching or playing. This year there has been a lot of ineptitude around this organization. Enough smart people around hockey see it.

 

In bold: If this is all you think than no, we don't see things differently. I completely agree with that thought. However, and maybe I have been misreading, it seems to me that you believe that starting Marty has been a MUCH bigger deal to this team than I do.

 

Bold2: I think this is a fair position, the implication being frustration on your part that is manifesting itself on the board. However, if IIRC you have been pretty supportive of keeping DeBoer on board no? Is it Marty's fault that he's starting? What would you expect him to do, ask not to start? That has been a large part of my point.

 

But I get it though, your real beef is with Lou:

 

http://www.njdevs.co...howtopic=133429

 

There is no Brodeur in his prime. No HOF defensemen in Stevens and Niedermayer. No Rafalski. No A-line to wonder WTF is happening with this team.

If Lou fired Deboer, he should just fire himself. His coaching change worked once with Robinson.

It always amazes me that people will sh!t on the players and sh!t on the coach, but no one even questions the GM much.

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