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#1441 devilsrule33

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:47 PM

I am quoting DR33 three times to highlight just how over the top and unilateral this Brodeur hate is getting:

 

 

In the past month I have written a post or two complimenting your status on the boards and your credibility around here. This imho, is not a welcome tactic.

 

 

"imagine" is a great word to use here. You are letting your imagination get the better of you.

 

 

 

 

QFT.


 

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I see things one way. You see things the other. Going back and looking at ridiculous posts isn't a great game you should play. I have no problem with any of the posts you have quoted for me.

 

I have never said Brodeur playing has cost us the playoffs. Just that it is very clear him playing so many games does not give the team the best chance to win. I don't hate Brodeur. I think you can find dozens of more spiteful posts around here than anything I have said or you quoted. 

 

I don't mind cheering for a losing team. I cheer for a lot of losers and the Devils. What I hate is complete and utter roster mismanagement. I hate inept people having jobs in either management, coaching or playing. This year there has been a lot of ineptitude around this organization. Enough smart people around hockey see it.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:20 PM

@TGfireandice: Schneider will start vs. Isles Saturday. Salvador seeing doctor today, won't play Saturday.


Glorious news on both fronts.

 

What's wrong with Salvador's eyes?   :lol:


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:33 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:42 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?

 

I don't think he's much more than a big body at this point.  A PDB type player for sure, can forecheck but can't score.

 

Therefore, he'll be around a for a few years yet.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 04:45 PM

I see things one way. You see things the other. Going back and looking at ridiculous posts isn't a great game you should play. I have no problem with any of the posts you have quoted for me.

 

I have never said Brodeur playing has cost us the playoffs. Just that it is very clear him playing so many games does not give the team the best chance to win. I don't hate Brodeur. I think you can find dozens of more spiteful posts around here than anything I have said or you quoted. 

 

I don't mind cheering for a losing team. I cheer for a lot of losers and the Devils. What I hate is complete and utter roster mismanagement. I hate inept people having jobs in either management, coaching or playing. This year there has been a lot of ineptitude around this organization. Enough smart people around hockey see it.

 

In bold: If this is all you think than no, we don't see things differently. I completely agree with that thought. However, and maybe I have been misreading, it seems to me that you believe that starting Marty has been a MUCH bigger deal to this team than I do.

 

Bold2: I think this is a fair position, the implication being frustration on your part that is manifesting itself on the board. However, if IIRC you have been pretty supportive of keeping DeBoer on board no? Is it Marty's fault that he's starting? What would you expect him to do, ask not to start? That has been a large part of my point.

 

But I get it though, your real beef is with Lou:

 

http://www.njdevs.co...howtopic=133429

 

There is no Brodeur in his prime. No HOF defensemen in Stevens and Niedermayer. No Rafalski. No A-line to wonder WTF is happening with this team.

If Lou fired Deboer, he should just fire himself. His coaching change worked once with Robinson.

It always amazes me that people will sh!t on the players and sh!t on the coach, but no one even questions the GM much.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 10:02 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?

 

I think he's having his typical Zubrus-esque year.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:05 PM

Does anyone else feel like Zubrus has regressed this year?

i always kind of felt like zubrus was just a so so type of player i dont recall myself ever really being like oh wwow zubrus coming in clutch... not saying he never has had one of those moments here.. but hes been nothing more then dead weight added to the pile this season.
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:14 PM

Zubrus is showing his age. Even though he never put up astonishing numbers he was always a beast along the boards and a great puck possession player. He is mot as beastly these last two seasons, he's wearing down.

Edited by Zubie#8, 28 March 2014 - 11:15 PM.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:35 AM

On top of wearing down, he was never really a speedy player, but for a big guy his speed is acceptable.  But I think that regression is mostly in his legs.  He can keep up with Jagr, but that's not saying much unfortunately.  I feel for the guy, he is a role player on this team, he can kill penalties and I believe he still has a place in the bottom 6, but keeping him in the top 6 for the simple reason, "Oh he's a big body and will win puck battles.", it just isnt good enough when we need players who will put points on the board.  Zubrus has never been known for doing that.  Use Zubrus as a 4th line anchor or wing with Gionta and Carter.  Gionta and Carter are both physical players and Zubrus would help that lines possession numbers in theory. 


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:46 AM

zubie of the SC run and this zubie are very different. then he could dump in at the blue line single handed and pin the Dman at will, those days seem gone, his hands are slowing too.  still a better puck carrier than most here give him credit for and he played as well as anyone with zajac and jagr.(not saying much, I know) at 3 mil people are making more of an issue than he really is. the guy will play on the 4th line if needed.  clowe plays and important role, but lets be honest hes horrible in our end, ditto ryder. and ruutu is no big upgrade.  I reserve the right to change my opinion if we lose jagr next year, lol


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:56 AM

Zubrus is 35, which doesn't seem 'that' old compared to a few guys on our team but he's been in the NHL since he was 18...that's a lot of miles playing the way he does (and he's been pretty durable).  Unfortunately giving him three years last offseason may wind up becoming a Pandolfo like deal where we have to buy out the final year.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 12:26 PM

Buying out the final year only saves the Devils money because it's a 35+ contract.  I could see them convincing him to walk.

 

It's not mileage, it's just that Zubrus was never a great player and players who aren't great tend to slow down at Zubrus's age.  Like Edge said, he just doesn't get in on the forecheck as fast and so that really limits what good he's doing out there.  He's still a smart player with the puck and on defense but he's basically contributing at a 3rd/4th line level at this juncture.  I'm not concerned about the salary, but I am concerned that coaching/management usually takes at least a year what shrewd people can see in 20 games - this is why old players suck, it isn't just because they start to get worse, it's that the coaching staff doesn't notice until it's already cost the team points.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:22 PM

At this point, if Zubrus plays on the 4th line I have no problem with him being here. You'll get your share of posters upset that a 4th liner is making $3 million but I don't really see it as a big deal compared to Salvador and Volchenkov's contracts.


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:11 AM

@dchesnokov: Ilya Kovalchuk will have a knee surgery in Munich later this week and will not play for Russia at the IIHF Worlds in Minsk.



Didn't know where to put this, so I figured here was as good a place as any.


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:15 AM

@dchesnokov: Ilya Kovalchuk will have a knee surgery in Munich later this week and will not play for Russia at the IIHF Worlds in Minsk.



Didn't know where to put this, so I figured here was as good a place as any.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:20 AM

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Devils have recalled Adam Larsson (emergency).


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:22 AM

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Devils have recalled Adam Larsson (emergency).

 

Guess Merrill is out.

 

He isn't the saviour, but nice to see him back.


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:23 AM

Guess Merrill is out.

 

He isn't the saviour, but nice to see him back.

Hopefully he plays well enough to stay in the lineup the rest of the way.  We need SOMETHING to feel good about going into the offseason


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:36 AM

Adam Larsson, back from the Crusades!


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:38 AM

And looks like Marty is starting!


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