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#141 PWW

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:37 PM

The Devils now have a 4th line with Gionta and Janssen together. So much for depth. 

 

Well so much for the production we were getting from the 4th line. Even Janssen can't make that line productive with Gio on it.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:40 PM

Well so much for the production we were getting from the 4th line. Even Janssen can't make that line productive with Gio on it.

im not sure i care for gio much anymore.. i know he isnt too liked around here but i too am starting to join that club.. however it seems like it would be him or JJ and im not sure im too high on him either so...whatever
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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:44 PM

The Devils now have a 4th line with Gionta and Janssen together. So much for depth. 

 

i know where you're going with this, but they actually do have depth. its what kept someone like tim fvcking ses-TI-to off the big club the last couple of weeks while clowe, elias, zajac, carter, and gionta went down. gionta and janssen aren't playing because the devils don't have depth. they're playing because janssen is providing a role that nobody else can (the importance of that role if up for debate) and pete insists that gionta is better than josefson.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:14 PM

I am excited about Brunner-Elias-Ryder. Maybe not ryder. But yeah.


I love it, two guys who like to shoot and can actually bury the puck being set up by Elias. Also, Patty seems to play faster on the rush in the few times he's been paired up with Brunner.
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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:20 PM

brunner and elias like playing together.. is elias back in the line up for tonight?

@TGfireandice: Elias said he plans to play tonight. Gionta siad he's good to go.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:16 PM

@TGfireandice: Elias said he plans to play tonight. Gionta siad he's good to go.

 

Elias:  Yay!
 

Gionta:  Meh

 

Janssen obviously can't stick on the 4th line for the rest of the season.  But..it's working for now, so why mess with it?


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:22 PM

Elias:  Yay!
 

Gionta:  Meh

 

Janssen obviously can't stick on the 4th line for the rest of the season.  But..it's working for now, so why mess with it?

Because it's truly unbelievable it's worked to this point, so it continuing to work seems unlikely to me.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:27 PM

Gionta:

16 0 1 1 -5 4 0 0 0 19 0.0

 

Janssen:

4 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 3 66.7

 

Stat's don't lie man!  Play the better player until he faults!  :thumbsup:


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:00 PM

I love it, two guys who like to shoot and can actually bury the puck being set up by Elias. Also, Patty seems to play faster on the rush in the few times he's been paired up with Brunner.

the problem is patty also likes to cycle and work the boards and neither Ryder or Brunner could do that to save their lives.
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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:11 PM

I love it, two guys who like to shoot and can actually bury the puck being set up by Elias. Also, Patty seems to play faster on the rush in the few times he's been paired up with Brunner.

I also like it since it moves Henrique to the wing. I always felt like he is more suited there than center in the long run.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:36 PM

Elias still isn't 100%.  But glad he's back in.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:38 AM

Per TG, Volchenkov to IR, Merrill to Albany.


Also at yesterday's practice, DeBoer had Larsson paired with Harrold and Gelinas paired with Fayne. Not sure I like breaking up Larsson and Gelinas.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:41 AM

Per TG, Volchenkov to IR, Merrill to Albany.

 

Does this mean Salvador's back?  Hopefully not..  :noclue:

 

Also at yesterday's practice, DeBoer had Larsson paired with Harrold and Gelinas paired with Fayne. Not sure I like breaking up Larsson and Gelinas.

 

Gelinas hasn't looked good for the past few games unfortunately, might be time to change it up for him.

On the other hand, however, Larsson has looked really good.  Hopefully he can keep it up with Harrold.  If Larsson starts to falter, hopefully PDB uses his brain and puts him back with Gelinas.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:57 AM

Does this mean Salvador's back? Hopefully not.. :noclue:


Gelinas hasn't looked good for the past few games unfortunately, might be time to change it up for him.

On the other hand, however, Larsson has looked really good. Hopefully he can keep it up with Harrold. If Larsson starts to falter, hopefully PDB uses his brain and puts him back with Gelinas.

Salvador isn't skating yet per TG. No one is getting called up (for the moment anyway) and we're rolling with 6 D.


That's also according to TG.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:02 PM

I imagine the Devils want Merrill to get in some games. Which defenseman would be called up from the AHL?


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:38 PM

I imagine the Devils want Merrill to get in some games. Which defenseman would be called up from the AHL?

 

I think it would be Helgeson.  I mean, there's not many NHL contracts left down there - just him, Burlon, Scarlett, and Hraberenka.

 

As for breaking up Larsson and Gelinas, I'm in favor - it's time to take the kid gloves off on Larsson, he's playing too well to be relegated to that role.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

I think it would be Helgeson.  I mean, there's not many NHL contracts left down there - just him, Burlon, Scarlett, and Hraberenka.

 

As for breaking up Larsson and Gelinas, I'm in favor - it's time to take the kid gloves off on Larsson, he's playing too well to be relegated to that role.

Agreed, but I'm not sure what Deboer or Stevens think. It's not abnormal for Gelinas to get more time than AL, sometimes by 3+ minutes

 

Last 5 games- 

 

Pitt- Larsson (15:56) Gelinas (18:30)

 

LA- L (17:01) G (16:46)

 

NYR- L (17:06) G (20:24)

 

NSH- L (17:07) G (19:44)

 

TOR- L (18:35) G (16:28)

 

Now, it's obvious that Larsson is the better dman and was carrying that pair at ES.  Gelinas gets a lot of PP time whereas Larsson sees a decent amount shorthanded. Difference shouldn't be that large though. 


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:07 PM

Agreed, but I'm not sure what Deboer or Stevens think. It's not abnormal for Gelinas to get more time than AL, sometimes by 3+ minutes

 

Last 5 games- 

 

Pitt- Larsson (15:56) Gelinas (18:30)

 

LA- L (17:01) G (16:46)

 

NYR- L (17:06) G (20:24)

 

NSH- L (17:07) G (19:44)

 

TOR- L (18:35) G (16:28)

 

Now, it's obvious that Larsson is the better dman and was carrying that pair at ES.  Gelinas gets a lot of PP time whereas Larsson sees a decent amount shorthanded. Difference shouldn't be that large though. 

 

Larsson hasn't been getting much time shorthanded in the last few games, that's part of where the difference is.  Also I think in games NJ trails, the Devils pair Gelinas with Zidlicky for some offensive zone draws.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:33 PM

 

 

As for breaking up Larsson and Gelinas, I'm in favor - it's time to take the kid gloves off on Larsson, he's playing too well to be relegated to that role.

 

Why do you see that as taking off the kid gloves?  If anything, pairing Larsson with a rookie would be an indication that De Boer trusts Larsson more to carry his own weight. 

 

If it's at the cost of a few extra shifts, I don't mind.  As Gelinas gets better, the two should get more icetime.   And by next year, there's going to be no choice but to give Larsson 20+ minutes per game. 


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:08 PM

Why do you see that as taking off the kid gloves?  If anything, pairing Larsson with a rookie would be an indication that De Boer trusts Larsson more to carry his own weight. 

 

If it's at the cost of a few extra shifts, I don't mind.  As Gelinas gets better, the two should get more icetime.   And by next year, there's going to be no choice but to give Larsson 20+ minutes per game. 

 

Gelinas will get lots of o-zone starts and if you pair him with Larsson that'll give Larsson 'soft minutes'. Gelinas should get those zone starts because of his shot but Larsson is playing very well and some might see him used better in a role with tougher minutes/more d-zone starts. 

 

I personally think they should let things be as they've been. Team is winning more often than not and Larsson is starting to look real good. No need to change things just yet.


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