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#21 devilsrule33

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:27 PM

And people say fighting is bad for hockey. Because of this every hockey message board is jumping, fans are texting back and forth "hey did you see what happened!?", the folks that went to that game have a story to tell and a memory for life, hockey will actually make it in some national sports highlight packages, a former rivalry that has since died may now be rekindled. Washington should be looking for revenge the next game.

 

All in all, this incident is a net game for the league.

 

There is no one who enjoyed that other than a few angry Flyers fans at the game. Everyone is disgusted by what happened. 

 

Most people like a good hockey fight when two goalies look down the ice each other, shrug their shoulders and say 'let's go' or where they dramatically clash at center ice (pointless, but entertaining), but what Emery and the ref did was disgusting. Emery going after Holtby and sucker punching him and beating him down is the equivalent of George Parros jumping a Sedin and beating the sh!t out of him for no reason. And the linesman or ref letting this go while blocking Capitals players from stepping in...holy sh!t.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:28 PM

I'm indifferent towards fighting.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:28 PM

You stay classy Philadelphia!
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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:36 PM

There is no one who enjoyed that other than a few angry Flyers fans at the game. Everyone is disgusted by what happened. 

 

Most people like a good hockey fight when two goalies look down the ice each other, shrug their shoulders and say 'let's go' or where they dramatically clash at center ice (pointless, but entertaining), but what Emery and the ref did was disgusting. Emery going after Holtby and sucker punching him and beating him down is the equivalent of George Parros jumping a Sedin and beating the sh!t out of him for no reason. And the linesman or ref letting this go while blocking Capitals players from stepping in...holy sh!t.

 

I agree that the Caps should've jumped in and pounded Emery, and Emery was very wrong in what he did to Holtby (and will get suspended justifiably so)

 

But it's not that unusual for a team that's being humiliated to try and start something, and sometimes cheap shots are involved. I've watched a lot of hockey in my life...this used to be a fairly regular  "team building/wake the fvck up" moment

 

Look at the Lemieux hit on Draper. Ugly incident...and the NHL turned around and milked it for all its worth, and got a dynamic new rivalry and tons of $ in its pocket because of it.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:45 PM

I agree that the Caps should've jumped in and pounded Emery, and Emery was very wrong in what he did to Holtby (and will get suspended justifiably so)

 

But it's not that unusual for a team that's being humiliated to try and start something, and sometimes cheap shots are involved. I've watched a lot of hockey in my life...this used to be a fairly regular  "team building/wake the fvck up" moment

 

Look at the Lemieux hit on Draper. Ugly incident...and the NHL turned around and milked it for all its worth, and got a dynamic new rivalry and tons of $ in its pocket because of it.

 

It's a team building exercise when you don't get one of your star players hurt during it.    There's going to be a ton of negative attention on this.   The league now has to suspend people for borderline (or formerly legal) hits, and you have the only goalie who could hold his own with goons rabbit punching another goalie while he's down... while a ref is watching. 

 

That was a total mess.   It's pretty much 180 degrees from the perception the league wants, rightly or wrongly


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:50 PM

emery.. scum bag fits in perfect there..
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Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:28 AM

It's a team building exercise when you don't get one of your star players hurt during it.    There's going to be a ton of negative attention on this.   The league now has to suspend people for borderline (or formerly legal) hits, and you have the only goalie who could hold his own with goons rabbit punching another goalie while he's down... while a ref is watching. 

 

That was a total mess.   It's pretty much 180 degrees from the perception the league wants, rightly or wrongly

 

Thing is, I don't see what Emery did that's suspendable, at least according to previous interpretations of the rules.  It's perfectly okay to pound the crap out of someone like that, you just get an instigator penalty and a game misconduct.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:29 AM

Francois St Laurent was the moronic ref allowing Holtby to get jumped.

I believe instigator penalties are suspendable.Further edit: I think when you rack up 29 mins the league can find a way to suspend you

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:45 AM

Thing is, I don't see what Emery did that's suspendable, at least according to previous interpretations of the rules.  It's perfectly okay to pound the crap out of someone like that, you just get an instigator penalty and a game misconduct.

 

Yep, but that's the mixed message they send.   I guess he can get one of those comic 4 figure fines for being a nuisance, that's about it.   Still, no goalie should be fighting that guy and for the Caps to stand around and let Holtby get pummeled by him is just soft.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:59 AM

Francois St Laurent was the moronic ref allowing Holtby to get jumped.

I believe instigator penalties are suspendable.Further edit: I think when you rack up 29 mins the league can find a way to suspend you

the first person to be suspended out of all if this is st Laurent who literally watched holtby take ten knocks to the head while he was on the ground.

Second person should be Simmons as his hit that started the whole thing was an elbow targeting the head.
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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:11 AM

Thing is, I don't see what Emery did that's suspendable, at least according to previous interpretations of the rules.  It's perfectly okay to pound the crap out of someone like that, you just get an instigator penalty and a game misconduct.

 

Carkner got 1 playoff game for beating the crap out of Boyle in 2012. 

 

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:19 AM

I think if the Flyers didnt fight no one would watch their games


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:43 AM

Broad street pansy cats more like it. So irresponsible and disrespectful to others. Giroux has sucked since jagr left. The team seems like. Nothing. Defense sucks. Goalies inconsistent. The offense is all always down and all over the place like NY ex.
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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:11 AM

Referees rarely break up fights, that is the linesmen's job.  The refs need to keep an eye out to make sure they get the calls right and also to make sure no cheap shots are thrown behind their back while the linesman jump in to break up the fight.  Of course, the linesmen were busy already, and since Holtby obviously did not want to fight, St. Laurent tried to stop the fight from happening until Holtby took his mask off and started throwing punches of his own.  From then on, it's a normal fight between two willing combatants, and while Holtby was getting the crap kicked out of him, he kept trying to get back up and continue fighting.  Holtby was not getting sucker punched, no punches were thrown until he was a willing participant.  When he was eventually taken down with Emery on top of him, it seems like Emery stopped throwing punches and the linesmen jumped in to separate them.  Seemed like normal fight protocol to me.

Emery is a tool, though.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:33 AM

1) simmonds is a phenomenal hockey player that I would kill to have on my team. One of the top power fowards in the league without a doubt, and this play just shows the fire he has to compete.

2) Im fully for the frame of thought that if you can't beat em, beat em up. No team should take a 7-0 beating lying down. Put a little bit of doubt in your opponents for the next time yous play, this way you're not seen as a pushover. Yeah people are going to hate you, but you're not out there to make friends or impress fans from other teams.
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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:07 AM

The only thing sickening about that goalie fight is no one jumped in to protect their goalie on the Washington side.  That is pathetic.  Other than that it's great for the game.  Fighting belongs in hockey its been there since the beginning and should never be banished.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:24 AM

If anything last night was bad for hockey because it gives the anti-fighting people more ammo.  You want real fighting, passion in close games...you don't want goon action in blowouts where guys get hurt and bully guys who don't want to fight.  


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:44 AM

all I care about is beating these punks twice while they're down and before the tough part of the schedule upcoming.  we NEED this win!


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:22 AM

Yep, but that's the mixed message they send.   I guess he can get one of those comic 4 figure fines for being a nuisance, that's about it.   Still, no goalie should be fighting that guy and for the Caps to stand around and let Holtby get pummeled by him is just soft.

 

The ref blocked anyone from coming to Holtby's aid.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:27 AM

Carkner got 1 playoff game for beating the crap out of Boyle in 2012. 

 

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He punched Boyle when he was on the ice, that's against The Code.  Emery didn't do that.


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