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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:45 AM

Most underreported important result:  Indianapolis coughing up a hairball to the Rams at home.  Yes its a non-conference loss but in the quest for the #2 seed and the bye that's going to hurt the Colts a lot.

 

The race for that #2 is wide-open, it really is.  Pats are 7-2 but still have to deal with Carolina (5 wins in a row where they've given up less that 12 points per game), Denver (no matter how I look at that one, I don't see the Pats winning that game...terrible matchup), and Baltimore (always a tough game for the Pats, and the game's in Baltimore).  It wouldn't surprise me if the Pats lose one of the other remaining four games against "should beat them" teams.  That gives them 10-11 wins.

 

And we're finally going to find out what KC is really made of...two games against Denver and two against San Diego, another one against the Colts.  They are not a lock to stay at #1 by any stretch. 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

The race for that #2 is wide-open, it really is.  Pats are 7-2 but still have to deal with Carolina (5 wins in a row where they've given up less that 12 points per game), Denver (no matter how I look at that one, I don't see the Pats winning that game...terrible matchup), and Baltimore (always a tough game for the Pats, and the game's in Baltimore).  It wouldn't surprise me if the Pats lose one of the other remaining four games against "should beat them" teams.  That gives them 10-11 wins.

 

And we're finally going to find out what KC is really made of...two games against Denver and two against San Diego, another one against the Colts.  They are not a lock to stay at #1 by any stretch. 

 

I would say the same about Denver.....San Diego hung around with them too....people get Peyton-blinders as he does cover some holes (in the regular season at least)....but that team is hardly invincible...especially when the weather starts getting bad......

 

Was good to see Seattle take apart a bad Atlanta team after two shaky outings in a row....they're still my favorite to win it all right now.....


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:51 AM

This year's Broncos are like the Pats of the last several seasons.  As we saw, the Pats' O was able to cover up for a lot of D ills (especially against crap teams), but the D couldn't do the same when the O would get shut down.  San Diego had their chances to beat the Broncs, but the Chargers (and Rivers) never seem to be able to get over the hump when they really need to.  Rivers is one of those guys whose career numbers are going to look a lot better than he actually WAS.

 

For a team that's scoring an insane amount of points, the Broncos' +133 point differential really isn't that great...shows how much points they're giving up on defense.  The Manning fanboys are all losing their minds over the eye-friendly numbers, but Peyton's always been a guy who puts up "easy on the eyes" numbers in the regular season.  Then there's the playoffs.  Take out three games where Peyton basically beat up on two teams that had NO defense to speak of (Denver twice, in 2003 and 2004, and KC in 2003), and his numbers are very ordinary...in his other 17 career playoff games, his TD-to-INT ratio is 20-to-20.  His greatness has not really carried over to the postseason (8 one-and-dones to boot). 

 

And Brady's three rings, five SB appearances and 17-7 record means he gets more of a pass on certain things than Peyton does (QBs tend to get too much of the credit and the blame for wins and losses, so Peyton probably takes more heat than he should for his lifetime 9-11 playoff record, just like a little too much gets made of Brady winning 17 playoff games).  But the recent playoff numbers really show that Brady and Manning are really very similar at this stage of their careers.  They can beat up on mediocre-to-bad defenses, both in the regular season and the playoffs, they can do some things that a lot of QB flat-out can't in some key spots...but when the playoffs roll around, they CAN be stopped with solid D and strong game-planning, even if their Os look unbeatable in the regular season. 

 

The one thing I think is unfair is, as great as Joe Montana was, people almost act like he never ever lost in the playoffs.  His teams lost 7 playoff games.  He was awesome in Super Bowls, no one would dispute that...11 TDs with 0 INTs...but he's almost remembered as never having lost come playoff time. 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:19 PM

How about my Ravens? Awesome comeback from us. Our division is so bad, we may still win it in spite of the fact we suck!
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:50 PM

Crabtree is his receiver of choice he makes a difference for them. Not having him half a year does something. Injuries did it for them. Seattle plays the same system and same type of qb with Wilson and there doing just fine. There better then sf and there seems not to be many teams that can take them down.once they get rolling and on the same page its a different story
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

You've basically got 6 teams fighting for one playoff spot:  Jets (5-4), Miami (4-4), Tennessee (4-5), Cleveland (4-5), Baltimore (4-5) and San Diego (4-5).  Not one of these teams looks like it's fully capable of going on a create-some-distance kind of run.  Jets have a pretty favorable schedule, but it's so hard trying to figure out what the hell these .500ish are going to do week-to-week...they're all around .500 for a reason (even if the reasons vary from team to team). 

 

It feels like the Jets have more going for them than anyone else at the moment, but I'd like to see them win two games in a row.  Baltimore's last 6 games have been decided by 6 points or less, and since giving up 49 points against the Broncos, they've been keeping the opponent's scoring down...just 17.5 points per game in their last 8 games.  Would help if Flacco wasn't in another one of his Average Joe funks...that's what seems to happen to him whenever it looks like he's ready to mentioned among the NFL's elite QBs (and now he's getting paid like one too). 

 

And KC has #5 seed written all over them.  I can't see them winning more than 12 games with their remaining schedule.  And I get the feeling that Denver will hold the tiebreaker against them by the end of the season, so 4-3 might be enough for the Broncos to take the division.  And the best thing to happen to Denver was losing to the Colts...no talk about 16-0 and the distractions that come with it...they can go 14-2 or 13-3 and do their thing in the playoffs (even with their defensive issues, I can't see them winning less than 13 games, unless Manning gets hurt, or unless the team is 12-3 and the last game means nothing to them).  


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:11 PM

Colorado. Manning got hurt last night. And he's been sustaining inquiries of lesser kind the last few games. I think personally he needs to rest if they want to make a run for the super bowl.

You've basically got 6 teams fighting for one playoff spot: Jets (5-4), Miami (4-4), Tennessee (4-5), Cleveland (4-5), Baltimore (4-5) and San Diego (4-5). Not one of these teams looks like it's fully capable of going on a create-some-distance kind of run. Jets have a pretty favorable schedule, but it's so hard trying to figure out what the hell these .500ish are going to do week-to-week...they're all around .500 for a reason (even if the reasons vary from team to team).

It feels like the Jets have more going for them than anyone else at the moment, but I'd like to see them win two games in a row. Baltimore's last 6 games have been decided by 6 points or less, and since giving up 49 points against the Broncos, they've been keeping the opponent's scoring down...just 17.5 points per game in their last 8 games. Would help if Flacco wasn't in another one of his Average Joe funks...that's what seems to happen to him whenever it looks like he's ready to mentioned among the NFL's elite QBs (and now he's getting paid like one too).

And KC has #5 seed written all over them. I can't see them winning more than 12 games with their remaining schedule. And I get the feeling that Denver will hold the tiebreaker against them by the end of the season, so 4-3 might be enough for the Broncos to take the division. And the best thing to happen to Denver was losing to the Colts...no talk about 16-0 and the distractions that come with it...they can go 14-2 or 13-3 and do their thing in the playoffs (even with their defensive issues, I can't see them winning less than 13 games, unless Manning gets hurt, or unless the team is 12-3 and the last game means nothing to them).


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:52 PM

I know Manning got hurt, but not enough to miss the next game.  If Denver wins their two games against KC, they're in great shape...if they beat NE (sandwiched in between the KC games), they'll be 11-1 and really in the driver's seat.  They'll only have to go 2-2 after that to win 13 games...they'll have two home games, then two away.  In a perfect world, they get to 13-1 and rest Manning as much as possible the final two games of the season.  I think the Colts (6-3), Pats (7-2) and KC (9-0) are going to have at least 4 losses by the time the season's over.   


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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:06 PM

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Would help if Flacco wasn't in another one of his Average Joe funks...that's what seems to happen to him whenever it looks like he's ready to mentioned among the NFL's elite QBs (and now he's getting paid like one too).


Flacco doesn't have the supporting cast anymore to get him in the elite conversation.

His contract may have ended his consecutive playoff streak.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 05:28 PM

Colorado your right my man but kc won't be an easy game for denever neither will the pats. Manning's history against Brady doesn't favor him either.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:07 PM

Flacco doesn't have the supporting cast anymore to get him in the elite conversation.

His contract may have ended his consecutive playoff streak.

 

If he was truly elite he wouldn't need a supporting cast...look at Brady, look at the no-names he won super bowls with

I didn't see David Tyree going to the all pro team after his velcro helmet catch

Drew Brees was chalking up 5,000 yard years before there was Jimmy Graham

Look what Rivers is doing this year with a cast of who and an aging Antonio Gates

 

say what you want about Dumbo, he makes his 3rd WR into a STAR ....every year....

 

this goes for Kapernick too

 

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

I'd add luck and Wilson in their two crasher. They have a stat that no one else does.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

I'd add luck and Wilson in their two crasher. They have a stat that no one else does.

 

We'll find out about Luck NOW without Wayne....though I don't think either one is really considered elite yet anyway..... Wilson has a special ability though, he could be....and he's got the running game, but a very unreliable passing game.....


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

Well he's 2-0 like luck from major come back victories while Manning is 1-1 and the rest of the league is 0-58 that's Sam good. I think Indy is over rated personally. Wilson is like map though. They have the best arms out their. They won't run unless they can do it safely and good. Unlike rg3. Both are lucky to hold two of the best rbs in the league alongside them as well as defense. Seattle's refievers aren't the best but it'll make due. I'd be surprised if a team so strongly built like San Fran or Seattle doesn't have a super bowl each within the next seven years. There built better then most teams.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:04 PM

If he was truly elite he wouldn't need a supporting cast...look at Brady, look at the no-names he won super bowls with
I didn't see David Tyree going to the all pro team after his velcro helmet catch
Drew Brees was chalking up 5,000 yard years before there was Jimmy Graham
Look what Rivers is doing this year with a cast of who and an aging Antonio Gates

say what you want about Dumbo, he makes his 3rd WR into a STAR ....every year....

this goes for Kapernick too

elite QBs make their weapons BETTER....not the other way around


It's a two way street:

Brady's championships had more to do with the Pats D, and a running game: Dillion and Faulk as their key 3rd down back. Brady's best year was when he had Randy Moss.

Drew Bree's has always had the same WR corps (Colston, Moore and Meechem)

Rivers in his best years had Gates, Jackson and LT

Flacco, like Brady are struggling with a new, inexperienced corp of WR's.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:53 PM

Shocked Miami didn't pull away with this after the Rishard Matthews swing pass touchdown

 

Tampa with key pressure late in the game. And Miami was doing a good job until then with the quick passing game...short slants and curls. But as soon as Tannehill needed and extra 2-3 seconds, the pocket collapsed


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:48 PM

Good for Tampa they have playing some good football the past few weeks.
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 07:48 AM

It's a two way street:

Brady's championships had more to do with the Pats D, and a running game: Dillion and Faulk as their key 3rd down back. Brady's best year was when he had Randy Moss.

Drew Bree's has always had the same WR corps (Colston, Moore and Meechem)

Rivers in his best years had Gates, Jackson and LT

Flacco, like Brady are struggling with a new, inexperienced corp of WR's.

 

Without going too much into this, you're strictly going by the numbers, re:  Brady.  He's always been good, always found ways to make every group of receivers both "meh" and terrific work.  Even with all of the receiver losses he had to deal with, the Pats have scored 27 or more points in 5 out of their last 6 games (a little misleading, in that offense didn't account for ALL of those points, but the Pats O is at least heading in the right direction).  Brady put up fine numbers prior to 2007, before he and several other QBs started putting up silly Madden numbers.

 

He was more than a guy along for the ride in those championships.  There's a reason the team seemed to improve overnight once Bledsoe got hurt. 


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:42 AM

Good for Tampa they have playing some good football the past few weeks.

 

Bite your tongue sir, that slimeball coach deserves to crawl back into his hole of obscurity where he belongs :P

 

He was truly worth of the honor of 0-16......


Without going too much into this, you're strictly going by the numbers, re:  Brady.  He's always been good, always found ways to make every group of receivers both "meh" and terrific work.  Even with all of the receiver losses he had to deal with, the Pats have scored 27 or more points in 5 out of their last 6 games (a little misleading, in that offense didn't account for ALL of those points, but the Pats O is at least heading in the right direction).  Brady put up fine numbers prior to 2007, before he and several other QBs started putting up silly Madden numbers.

 

He was more than a guy along for the ride in those championships.  There's a reason the team seemed to improve overnight once Bledsoe got hurt. 

 

I would say Brady won Super Bowls with receivers and backs worse then what the Ravens put on the field this year (case in point this season)


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2005 Fantasy Football League Champion... Bow to my Football knowledge !!!!!!

2003-04 NJDevs.com winner of the Masterton Award for Dedication to the Devils(still proud of that one !)

4, Four (!?!?) Time (2005-2008) NJDevs.com winner of the Whoever the damn Award for the funniest poster in the land is named after...(geesh... post pressure, but I seem ok with it!)
TWO TIME (2005, 2006) Award Winner and the man who can show Jeremy Roenick what a REAL loudmouth is all about.... hell this mouth roars SO loud, they retired the DAMN AWARD!!!! But how do you be emotional about an award for being most emotional when you're sharing it?

2008 NJDevs Stanley Cup Winner for best overall poster... where's my damn ring?

June 6, 2007... the NHL dies just a little bit.....
.. April 20, 2008...it gets a little better :)

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:13 PM

Brady's SB wins had more to do with the Pats D.
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I was wrong to ever doubt the powers of Lou Lamoriello.
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