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#121 EdgeControl

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

Great game overall. I felt that the Gelinas /Larsson pairing wasn't the greatest. Seemed like whenever the presa has Long offensive pressure, that pairing was on the ice. At least they are young.

a closer look would reveal ryder and brunner were also on the ice during those moments


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:41 AM

lol Janssen is never coming out of the lineup.

 

It looks like the new players are finally starting to buy into the system. Ryder playing a lot better. No clowe is a plus. Expect better from Brunner, I hope he plays with Elias when he gets back even though he'll be back with Jagr.

 

Met 2 guys from the Czech republic. They said they were there for our Czechs. Then the 2 playing scored and I told them they have to come to every game.

 

The first time hearing the goal song I liked it. But after last night it doesn't cross over well. It's a techno version of the song where the "lets go devils" sounds more like an snes soundboard. The crowd is still throwing YOU SUCK into it. Just doesn't have the right feel to it.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:45 AM

not to dampen the excitement here but Nashville was terrible, Marty was very good and taking penalties winning 3-0 in the third is unacceptable

I am a big Carter fan but he took 2 dumb ones including an inexcusable one on the offensive zone

Ryder and Brunner did not look good either.

Or defenders were spectacular foe 2 games now..not usre why Zidlicy would take a one year contract

I never buy into "we'll the other team is terrible" reasoning... if we consider ourselves a playoff contender we SHOULD be beating Nashville 5-0. Because that's exactly what we did, you can't take away from it.

And Carters hooking penalty or whatever it was was extremely questionable. Refs are always trying to give the losing team every opportunity to get on the pp and make the game interesting.

I was actually pleased the way we played in the 3rd... It was totally different from past games where we just ended terribly and couldn't close any game out.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:54 AM

No clowe is a plus.

 

He's on a 5-year deal...whenever he's healthy enough to return to the lineup, he's going to get a lot of chances.  But I hope those chances don't start to come until he's absolutely 100% healthy and ready to go. 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:27 AM


Volch has played better this year in general.  Maybe it's actually possible he WAS hurt in the '12 playoffs, and the lockout screwed him up last year.  The '12 playoffs is really when he went from serviceable to hideous and that continued through last year but this year he's been a bit better.

 

he was hurt during those playoffs. he got hurt in russia. then he got hurt last year that you knew about when he was out of the lineup. then he was hurt again when he was back in that you didn't know about.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:59 AM

meh at this point volchenkov is pretty much always going to be playing through something, so if he's not hurt now it's only a matter of time until he is.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:05 AM

Jagr's been great for that lockerroom, no question...I remember him having a rep as being moody back in the day, but he really to seems to love what he's doing...just seems so happy to be playing in the NHL at 41.  I like that he appears to be genuinely vested in the Devils turning this around...there's guys that definitely would've gone into "Let me bide my time here until I get moved to a contender" mode, and become aloof and disinteresed (a guy like Jagr knows he's going to get to play for a good team, as long as he's merely decent if he's stuck on a bad team).  But Jagr clearly gives it everything he's got.  If only he was a few years younger...I like what he brings to the Devils in all aspects. 

 

I don't think Marty ever needed much outside motivation, but I think Jagr's been good for just about everyone on the Devils.  Yeah, Marty and Jagr are probably good for each other. 

 

I don't think Jagr has the luxury of playing for a contender if he doesn't have a good season - if he's playing all the games and sitting at 30 points at the deadline, there's not going to be a ton of interest in him.  So while I'm not cynical about his motivations - I think he does like being here and is giving 100% to the team - he can't just pull an Arnott and wait until he gets the call.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:15 AM

I don't think Jagr has the luxury of playing for a contender if he doesn't have a good season - if he's playing all the games and sitting at 30 points at the deadline, there's not going to be a ton of interest in him.  So while I'm not cynical about his motivations - I think he does like being here and is giving 100% to the team - he can't just pull an Arnott and wait until he gets the call.

 

Arnott put up 4 goals and 5 assists in his last 30 GP as a Devil, and the Devils managed to get both a relatively young body and a second-round pick out of the Caps.  And if there was ever a guy who seemed like he was in "Counting down the days until I'm out of here" mode, it was Arnott. 

 

If Jagr tails off and winds up with 30 points at the deadline, and the Devils are sellers, I think there would be a contender willing to make a move for him...nothing great would be coming the other way (if Jagr was moved under the hypothetical "30 points at the deadline" scenario, and the Devils got a 3rd-rounder for him, I'd be overjoyed), but with his pedigree, kind of hard to think someone wouldn't take a shot at him.  Low cost, decent potential reward. 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:25 AM

The most exciting thing about holding them to 22 attempts is that they were trailing the whole damn game too. Normally teams get more aggressive. 

 

If the Devils can hold teams to 20 shots a game AND get the quality goaltending they have been, they are going to be winning more often than not very quickly 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

I never buy into "we'll the other team is terrible" reasoning... if we consider ourselves a playoff contender we SHOULD be beating Nashville 5-0. Because that's exactly what we did, you can't take away from it.

And Carters hooking penalty or whatever it was was extremely questionable. Refs are always trying to give the losing team every opportunity to get on the pp and make the game interesting.

I was actually pleased the way we played in the 3rd... It was totally different from past games where we just ended terribly and couldn't close any game out.

 

 

Nashville has been on the road for a bunch of games in a row.. they looked slow to everything and weak on the puck

 

We did play well in the third, except for the penalities


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

Eh it was incredibly forced, and the canned version didn't even sound that great.  Have it after the goal song is over (not during it), that's when the crowd usually chants Let's Go Devils.


I don't think they wanted it to sound like an actual LGD chant.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:47 AM

He's on a 5-year deal...whenever he's healthy enough to return to the lineup, he's going to get a lot of chances.  But I hope those chances don't start to come until he's absolutely 100% healthy and ready to go.


A healthy Clowe will help this team. I don't know if or when that'll be though.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:51 AM

I don't think they wanted it to sound like an actual LGD chant.

 

I liked the new goal song and the crowd even found a somewhat clever way to incorporate "you suck" into it pretty seemlessly.

 

IDK about some people here but the crowd was pretty weak last night, though I am not surprised.  I was sitting in one of the balcony sections and I could hear individual fans yelling from the 200's as well as the lower level and even the refs/linesmen and players.  At one point the crowd went completely silent for about 2 seconds during play and I swear you could hear a pin drop.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:59 AM

I liked the new goal song and the crowd even found a somewhat clever way to incorporate "you suck" into it pretty seemlessly.
 
IDK about some people here but the crowd was pretty weak last night, though I am not surprised.  I was sitting in one of the balcony sections and I could hear individual fans yelling from the 200's as well as the lower level and even the refs/linesmen and players.  At one point the crowd went completely silent for about 2 seconds during play and I swear you could hear a pin drop.


I thought the crowd wasn't terrible. The YS chant was to be expected. Hopefully management can find a way to drown it out which shouldn't be too hard since the fans only have a split second to work it in to the song. But then again I'm right in front of the Crazies section. They're the ones who started it.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:06 PM

I thought the crowd wasn't terrible. The YS chant was to be expected. Hopefully management can find a way to drown it out which shouldn't be too hard since the fans only have a split second to work it in to the song. But then again I'm right in front of the Crazies section. They're the ones who started it.

 

Eh at this point you can't change a segment of fans who insist on chanting a childish chant after every goal.  I don't like it and wish it was gone 100% but at this point I think its impossible and just talking about it now is just beating a dead horse.  I don't like it, I don't participate in it and that's that.

 

The Crazies along with Diablos are just cliques.  For the past 2 years I have been purposely trying to get seats as far away as possible from them, even if it means spending a little extra $.

 

And for christ sake can someone just take those vuvuzela's away from the Diablos?  I was getting a headache from hearing those all night.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:06 PM

Nashville has been on the road for a bunch of games in a row.. they looked slow to everything and weak on the puck

We did play well in the third, except for the penalities

I know how bad Nashville played and he road trip and all that, and I believe that a team that fancies itself a playoff contender should beat them 5-0.

It's not like we barely squeaked by with a 1-0 win (which has too often been the case with this team)

To me we were due a dominant win even if it is against a bad team making a long road trip. In the very least it gives us something to build on going into a tough few games here.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:14 PM

 

And for christ sake can someone just take those vuvuzela's away from the Diablos?  I was getting a headache from hearing those all night.

 

I complain about the vuvuzelas every game and my friends laugh at me for it cause that damn instrument irks me so damn much.

I hated it ever since that South Africa World Cup where it became more popular....


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:14 PM

"Great game overall. I felt that the Gelinas /Larsson pairing wasn't the greatest. Seemed like whenever the presa has Long offensive pressure, that pairing was on the ice. At least they are young."

 

As someone else pointed out it's not always the defencemen's fault the team is trapped in their own end. I think what's more important is how many scoring chances the other team gets while your hemmed in. I thought all the D pairings did a good job keeping the Predators to the outside or stuck behind the net while in the zone --- similar to what teams do to us sometimes.

 

Chico mentioned at one point that Zidlicky was playing his former team, and I thought who cares?  It's been about 10 years. It's crazy that when he broke in though he had Barry Trotz as a coach. He's been coaching the team since 1998! 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

Eh at this point you can't change a segment of fans who insist on chanting a childish chant after every goal.  I don't like it and wish it was gone 100% but at this point I think its impossible and just talking about it now is just beating a dead horse.  I don't like it, I don't participate in it and that's that.

 

The Crazies along with Diablos are just cliques.  For the past 2 years I have been purposely trying to get seats as far away as possible from them, even if it means spending a little extra $.

 

And for christ sake can someone just take those vuvuzela's away from the Diablos?  I was getting a headache from hearing those all night.

 

I just don't understand why the YS chant can't wait until after the goal song.  Wait until play resumes before chanting that.  All the other mocking chants after a team scores don't happen until play resumes.

 

The guy who starts Bauman's chant in 233 has a really annoying voice.  I do like their enthusiasm though.  The Crazies are more of what fans are.  The Diablos are more of a cheering squad.

 

I actually wish there was another way they could do the "kill" chant.  Vuvuzelas suck.  I enjoy the Kill chant though.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

I just don't understand why the YS chant can't wait until after the goal song.  Wait until play resumes before chanting that.  All the other mocking chants after a team scores don't happen until play resumes.

 

The guy who starts Bauman's chant in 233 has a really annoying voice.  I do like their enthusiasm though.  The Crazies are more of what fans are.  The Diablos are more of a cheering squad.

 

I actually wish there was another way they could do the "kill" chant.  Vuvuzelas suck.  I enjoy the Kill chant though.

 

The guy who does the Baumann chant in 233 is terrible at it.  Can barely hear him.

 

As for the 1 or 2 guys who do it in the Diablos, someone needs to tell them that its 1 time per game max.  Hearing it 1-3 times per period takes the novelty of it away.


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