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#241 John Wensink

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:47 PM

if jagr maintains this pace for the rest of the season there is no way he doesn't return to the NHL next year. It's clear to me he's not only playing at a high level but he loves doing it.

He'll go oversees when he can't compete here anymore.


If he doesn't fade I really hope he will come back.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

its true but having picks will always be better than nothing, it's helping your chances to find a gem at some point. With our forwards depth in the minors i'd really try to get as much picks as i could, who knows which 4th pick could be a Gallagher/Loktionov or wtv. Worth the try. 

 

There's no way around it, it's always better to have assets to deal with than not having them. It gives you options.

 

edit : about the Jagr thing, i'd like to see him retire as a Devil really

 

It's a weak draft and the Devils have 4 RH defensemen but no one behind that in the system.  Fayne's value is not 'nothing' to the Devils right now.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:46 PM

It's a weak draft and the Devils have 4 RH defensemen but no one behind that in the system. Fayne's value is not 'nothing' to the Devils right now.

yeah if fayne can't fetch anything better than a third rounder it's just smarter to keep him and let him walk... If we make a playoff push and (maybe even a) run he could very well be a key to have if injury hits (this assumes sal and Volch get back)

A contender in need of a nice 3rd pairing d may be willing to bid up to a 3rd rounder for him, but even then if we're still in it is rather keep him.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:04 AM

yeah if fayne can't fetch anything better than a third rounder it's just smarter to keep him and let him walk... If we make a playoff push and (maybe even a) run he could very well be a key to have if injury hits (this assumes sal and Volch get back)

A contender in need of a nice 3rd pairing d may be willing to bid up to a 3rd rounder for him, but even then if we're still in it is rather keep him.

 

This.  Some people don't get that you can't always try to horde mid-round picks for the future at the expense of the present.  I'm sure Fayne isn't thrilled with the way he's been used, but the fact is he's a good depth player who will get chances to play (he's played in over half of the Devils' games this season), and there's d-men on the Devils that have trouble staying healthy (exactly two have played in every game this season).  If the Devils are firmly in playoff contention as the season goes on, I'd rather have Fayne on the roster...even if the Devils are going to lose him for nothing.  Only exception would be if someone was willing to give up something more than he's worth to get him (which doesn't seem likely). 


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

This.  Some people don't get that you can't always try to horde mid-round picks for the future at the expense of the present.  I'm sure Fayne isn't thrilled with the way he's been used, but the fact is he's a good depth player who will get chances to play (he's played in over half of the Devils' games this season), and there's d-men on the Devils that have trouble staying healthy (exactly two have played in every game this season).  If the Devils are firmly in playoff contention as the season goes on, I'd rather have Fayne on the roster...even if the Devils are going to lose him for nothing.  Only exception would be if someone was willing to give up something more than he's worth to get him (which doesn't seem likely).

i feel like fayne gets cought often and cant make it back to the zone fast enough.. atleast last night anyway i noticed more then once he was behind the puck racing back to the zone with opposition in front of him already
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 11:09 AM

i feel like fayne gets cought often and cant make it back to the zone fast enough.. atleast last night anyway i noticed more then once he was behind the puck racing back to the zone with opposition in front of him already

It's because he pinches more than some of the other D. I don't think it was his best night, but I mean, c'mon, the whole team was god awful last night except for Schneider.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:31 PM

It's because he pinches more than some of the other D. I don't think it was his best night, but I mean, c'mon, the whole team was god awful last night except for Schneider.

I also think some guys like fayne who are sitting often then get in a game due to injury or just to rest another guy feel like they have to make a mark on the game to warrant the coach to keep them in the lineup.

They may take a few more risks to try to make something happen than if they knew they had a solid spot in the lineup.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:54 PM

I also think some guys like fayne who are sitting often then get in a game due to injury or just to rest another guy feel like they have to make a mark on the game to warrant the coach to keep them in the lineup.

They may take a few more risks to try to make something happen than if they knew they had a solid spot in the lineup.

Maybe so. I think Fayne actually does a good job of pinching at the right times, which is basically just knowing whether you can get to the puck before the other guy. I agree that him being in and out of the lineup would effect him. Not sure if it's him trying to impress or if it's just he can't get into a groove always being in and out.

What I don't get is how he goes from playing with Greene against top lines to sitting in the press box. That's what is baffling to me. I just don't think he's lost whatever he had two years ago to the point where he deserves this treatment.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:59 PM

Maybe so. I think Fayne actually does a good job of pinching at the right times, which is basically just knowing whether you can get to the puck before the other guy. I agree that him being in and out of the lineup would effect him. Not sure if it's him trying to impress or if it's just he can't get into a groove always being in and out.

What I don't get is how he goes from playing with Greene against top lines to sitting in the press box. That's what is baffling to me. I just don't think he's lost whatever he had two years ago to the point where he deserves this treatment.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:39 PM

two words...Pete Deboer

I also don't think JJ should be rotting away......does anybody know if he's still alive? 

Also agree there. JJ is better at everything than Lil Gio. He's worth having in if only for the PK where he actually looks like he belongs compared to the stretching and waving the stick while way out of position that Gio does.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:33 PM

Also agree there. JJ is better at everything than Lil Gio. He's worth having in if only for the PK where he actually looks like he belongs compared to the stretching and waving the stick while way out of position that Gio does.

I wish Debo put JJ in on a line with Teddy for a few games (sit Cam and Gio) I think Teddy and JJ could mesh like Larsson and Gelinas did when Gelly started playing a few games back. It seemed to make Larsson way more comfortable...and I bet the Teddy/JJ thing could work........I mean we need all the offense we can get.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:47 PM

It might work, if you had a physical, at least semi-skilled RW'er to balance out the line the way Clarkson did in late '10/11 when he was put with Josefson/Tedenby.  But we don't really have that player.  Cam's just physical and Clowe's staying in Chris Pronger's condo for a while.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:54 PM

It might work, if you had a physical, at least semi-skilled RW'er to balance out the line the way Clarkson did in late '10/11 when he was put with Josefson/Tedenby.  But we don't really have that player.  Cam's just physical and Clowe's staying in Chris Pronger's condo for a while.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:02 PM

lol true.  I guess that could work.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:21 PM

Bernier says hello.

yeah, he was hitting everything that moved last night


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