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#141 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:48 PM

Preds fans do it too.  "Sucks" after each opposing player name during intros was their's before it was ours.  I'm pretty sure.

 

Sorry Mike, but you are wrong on this one.  They weren't even a team when the Devils fans started doing it.  I specifically remember hearing it during the '95 Cup run.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:48 PM

Preds fans do it too.  "Sucks" after each opposing player name during intros was their's before it was ours.  I'm pretty sure.

 

This is old too. I can remember the Avalanche fans doing that to us in the 2001 finals. The word "sucks" has been used profusely throughout all sporting events (and almost all events involving beer I've noticed) 

I don't know that we'll ever get to the bottom of this.

I liked the YS chant and I hope it stays.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:48 PM

A number of colleges had done it prior.  The Devils and Preds were the first NHL fanbases that I can remember doing it, with the Devils fanbase adding sucks at the end of the names being annouced for the starting lineups and scratches of the opposing team dating back to the 90's.  Is that a tradition of ours?  Just wondering.

 

I figured we weren't the first in the world to conceive the chant, I'm just saying, it's a chant that just "came about" and stuck around for the years it did. If "short tradition" had its own word, that's what it'd be considered.

 

And yes it's a tradition that Devils fans say "..sucks!" after the opposing team's starting lineup is called out. What would you (or DevsMan84 or anyone) like to call it?


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#144 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:55 PM

I figured we weren't the first in the world to conceive the chant, I'm just saying, it's a chant that just "came about" and stuck around for the years it did. If "short tradition" had its own word, that's what it'd be considered.

 

And yes it's a tradition that Devils fans say "..sucks!" after the opposing team's starting lineup is called out. What would you (or DevsMan84 or anyone) like to call it?

 

I actually agree with you on all your points.  IMO, it doesn't have to be 50 years old to be a tradition.  I was being sarcastic, which doesn't always come across well on these boards.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

you guys are so young and naive

 


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#146 TheRedStorm

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:07 PM

I actually agree with you on all your points.  IMO, it doesn't have to be 50 years old to be a tradition.  I was being sarcastic, which doesn't always come across well on these boards.

 

tra·di·tion   [truh-dish-uhthinsp.pngthinsp.pngn]  Show IPA
noun
1.
the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs,information, etc., from generation to generation, especially byword of mouth or by practice: a story that has come down to us bypopular tradition.
2.
something that is handed down: the traditions of the Eskimos.
3.
a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting: Therebellious students wanted to break with tradition.
4.
a continuing pattern of culture beliefs or practices.
5.
a customary or characteristic method or manner: The winner took avictory lap in the usual track tradition.
 
 
Here's the defintition of tradition from dictionary.com. Notice the words "generation to generation", "long established", "inherited", "continuing pattern"? These are words that are used to describe something that is done over a long period of time. Not 1 year, not 5 years and not 10 years. A generation certainly isn't 10 years. As a matter of fact, the Devils are arguably only in their 2nd generation of fans. So if we're going to play it by definition you're going to need something that stretches all the way back to early "Brendan Byrne" to hold some weight.
 

Edited by TheRedStorm, 26 November 2013 - 06:12 PM.

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#147 DJ Eco

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:09 PM

All of this is irrelevant though. Someone made a good point on Page 6 that all the new owners had to do was make the team financially stable and not meddle/micromanage in the everyday goings on of the arena and fans. What is and isn't a tradition is irrelevant. 

 

In the grand scheme of things, this year having the worst attendance in years, getting rid of Earl's Dance Party and the YS chant should be at the bottom of the priority list, and yet, every game that goes by, these little things are being changed and meddled with, when there's absolutely no need.


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#148 DJ Eco

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:14 PM

As a matter of fact, the Devils are arguably only in their 2nd generation of fans.

 

So is it a matter of fact or arguable?

 

 

 

 

^^See how annoying that is? That's what you're doing. This is all irrelevant nonsense. Do you think this stuff is the most important series of issues this franchise is facing or not? If not, then you agree with my general point.


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#149 TheRedStorm

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:32 PM

So is it a matter of fact or arguable?

 

 

 

 

^^See how annoying that is? That's what you're doing. This is all irrelevant nonsense. Do you think this stuff is the most important series of issues this franchise is facing or not? If not, then you agree with my general point.

 

I said arguably because i'm sure someone won't agree but, IMO, it's fact. This team is only in it's 2nd generation.

 

 It's all good, though  :thumbsup:  Yeah, i'd be more worried about the on-ice product  :doh1:


Edited by TheRedStorm, 26 November 2013 - 06:37 PM.

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#150 Mike Brown

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 07:15 PM

Well oops on my part.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 07:16 PM

Sorry Mike, but you are wrong on this one.  They weren't even a team when the Devils fans started doing it.  I specifically remember hearing it during the '95 Cup run.

 

I use to go to Flyers games in the late 80's early 90's and they did it then.

 

Earle's Dance Party is eerily similar to the husky kid that used to do that(dance about) as a fan in 200's at the Flyers arena. He is now the on ice promotions guy for the team during games.

 

The only tradition this team has is problems scoring goals.


Edited by hystyk28, 26 November 2013 - 08:46 PM.

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#152 devilsfan26

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:04 PM

I said arguably because i'm sure someone won't agree but, IMO, it's fact. This team is only in it's 2nd generation.

Haha no offense and I think I agree with your point, but I find this hilarious.  First it's an arguable matter of fact, and then in your opinion, it's a fact.  :lol:


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

a generation in sports is not on the same timeline as its fans.

 

id say 3rd 4th or even fifth gen

 

like a car


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

Haha no offense and I think I agree with your point, but I find this hilarious.  First it's an arguable matter of fact, and then in your opinion, it's a fact.  :lol:

 

lol, didn't notice that!  :doh1:


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:11 PM

Some Jaundiced Patrons in here, for sure


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:29 PM

tra·di·tion [truh-dish-uhthinsp.pngthinsp.pngn] Show IPA

noun[/size]
1.
the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs,information, etc., from generation to generation, especially byword of mouth or by practice: a story that has come down to us bypopular tradition.

2.
something that is handed down: the traditions of the Eskimos.

3.
a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting: Therebellious students wanted to break with tradition.

4.
a continuing pattern of culture beliefs or practices.

5.
a customary or characteristic method or manner: The winner took avictory lap in the usual track tradition.


Here's the defintition of tradition from dictionary.com. Notice the words "generation to generation", "long established", "inherited", "continuing pattern"? These are words that are used to describe something that is done over a long period of time. Not 1 year, not 5 years and not 10 years. A generation certainly isn't 10 years. As a matter of fact, the Devils are arguably only in their 2nd generation of fans. So if we're going to play it by definition you're going to need something that stretches all the way back to early "Brendan Byrne" to hold some weight.

tra·di·tion [truh-dish-uhthinsp.pngthinsp.pngn] Show IPA

noun[/size]
1.
the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs,information, etc., from generation to generation, especially byword of mouth or by practice: a story that has come down to us bypopular tradition.

2.
something that is handed down: the traditions of the Eskimos.

3.
a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting: Therebellious students wanted to break with tradition.

4.
a continuing pattern of culture beliefs or practices.

5.
a customary or characteristic method or manner: The winner took avictory lap in the usual track tradition.


Here's the defintition of tradition from dictionary.com. Notice the words "generation to generation", "long established", "inherited", "continuing pattern"? These are words that are used to describe something that is done over a long period of time. Not 1 year, not 5 years and not 10 years. A generation certainly isn't 10 years. As a matter of fact, the Devils are arguably only in their 2nd generation of fans. So if we're going to play it by definition you're going to need something that stretches all the way back to early "Brendan Byrne" to hold some weight.

See 4 and 5 under the definition of tradition. I could easily make an argument that the YS, rangers suck, earls dance party, etc. all fall under those portions of the definition. Nice try though. Now go get your shine box! I agree with DJ. None of this is all that important and we are arguing over nothing.

Edited by Chuck the Duck, 26 November 2013 - 10:33 PM.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

I just think the new ownership group is taking a new approach. JVB was great towards die-hards and established fans, but his marketing was laughably bad and promotion was almost non-existant other than practically giving away tickets to almost every game.

These new owners want to attract casual fans and families. Can't really argue with that approach as he is looking for new opportunities to expand and not just concentrating almost their entire efforts on fans whose money they already have like JVB did. That business model usually fails in the long run and JVB did just that.


I don't agree at all that the new owners are trying to attract casual fans. High ticket prices, dousing the atmosphere, and cruddy social media marketing is called doing well with casual fans?? they're doing a terrible job. I also don't agree that JVB was terrible with marketing. Granted, devils marketing is always a joke, but under JVB it grew leaps and bounds. Attendance was tremendous last season and the atmosphere got much better. Lets see if Harris' approach of pissing off hardcore fans and STH while simultaneously taking a piss poor approach to casual fans results in good attendance. I doubt it will.
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:57 PM

Don't chant YS during the goal song. Any chant during the goal song should be a positive chant showing actual support for the team. I really like how they worked "Let's go Devils" into the goal song.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:59 PM

One thing I'm not happy with at the arena is how they moved all the HS Hockey Jerseys and youth team jerseys to one corner of the arena. I thought it was awesome that they were spread throughout the arena and seeing kids looking for them and it was something pretty unique. I'm not blaming the owners for this but I would just like to know who idea it was; some of them are now so high up on the wall it's hard to make some of them out. Thankfully my HS's jersey is lower.

 

Conversely I do like how they have tried to make that area a destination with NHL 14, table top hockey, face painting, etc.. after years of just acting as a storage area with old jerseys from the Devils organization. They do need to do some house keeping on that jersey case. The Jersey Devils minor league team description sign has fallen down and the Lokomotiv pictures of fallen over. Also on the top concourse the Jersey Rocks window display on NJ music history needs some TLC; posters falling off and hanging off their easels. Finally some of the paper section numbers on the walls in the upper concourse are curling up; how about plastic section numbers with devils coleration. Would look more professional.

 

I also agree how the atmosphere at last nights game was down right awful. I can't believe how much attendance is down compared to last year!!


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:37 PM

Now you've just exposed yourself as a devil employee


I wish I was.

But really here's why I like it. The "woahhhhhhhhh oh oh oh oh oh oh ohhh ohhhh" would get too redundant and annoying by itself. I'm glad they mixed it up with something in the middle of the song.
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