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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:34 PM

I think we can agree daniel that if miami had wilson you would have a few more wins.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:34 PM

Tampa. They lost that game but Wilson won it. Without that its a loss. He is young but he is on his way to elite

We'll see about elite. But yeah, he can be the QB on my team any day.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:38 PM

Wilson's definitely taken a step above the other two ballyhooed rookie QB's from last year (RG3, Luck) this season.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

He isnt far from elite. At all

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:44 PM

Wilson's definitely taken a step above the other two ballyhooed rookie QB's from last year (RG3, Luck) this season.


Certainly RGIII. That trade could end up being the Rams version of the Herschel Walker deal. And imagine if the Rams end up drafting one of the big three QBs and they end up better than RGIII.

I wouldn't say Luck though. With Wilson, the rest of the team is so good, it's hard to compare him to other QBs, at least right now.

A big test will be the road game against the Niners.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:50 PM

And the saints with that offense
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:59 PM

Was anyone else surprised that the Steelers had that late TD called back because the RB had his helmet knocked off inches before crossing the goal line? The refs had ruled it a TD on the field but then reversed the call after a review.

 

I understand that there is a rule that says that as soon as any player with the ball loses his helmet the play is dead, but I don't think that it should be a reviewable play.

 

I guess maybe it had to be reviewed because it happened with under two minutes left, but still, it just seems strange to me that that can be overturned.

 

I know the Steelers ended up scoring anyway a couple of plays later, but maybe if they hadn't had to run a few more unsuccessful attempts, they would've still had something up their sleeve for the two-point conversion.

 

I had no stake in that game -- just my thoughts.

 

 

All TDs are automatically reviewed....the guy's helmet coming off is no different then a replay showing his knee down before he gets in the end zone....it sucks the guy almost died in the process :blink:

 

but the way the rule is written they DID get it right.....for what it's worth....


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:13 PM

And the saints with that offense


True, but Seattle's playing at home.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:21 PM

Its drew Bree's boss.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:12 PM

All TDs are automatically reviewed....the guy's helmet coming off is no different then a replay showing his knee down before he gets in the end zone....it sucks the guy almost died in the process :blink:

 

but the way the rule is written they DID get it right.....for what it's worth....

 

I agree that it sucks the guy got hurt on that play. Is he in the hospital right now -- I haven't checked. I imagine in the very least he suffered a serious concussion.

 

But while it is apparent that the officials were correct in reviewing the play according to the rules as they are written -- Collinsworth made that point clear in his analysis -- the fact that the guy got hurt shouldn't have a say in whether or not they review the spot of the ball IMO.

 

To me, where they spot the ball on a play like that shouldn't be reviewable even on a potential TD just as they wouldn't review a possible holding call on a potential TD.

 

To me, it should be all about when the refs blew the whistle. And in this case, the refs said he had gotten into the end zone, which he clearly did.

 

Going back and looking for the exact moment his helmet came off doesn't change anything about the play. If anything, it inadvertently penalizes the team whose player got hurt rather than the team that committed the fineable transgression -- helmet to helmet.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:57 PM

I agree that it sucks the guy got hurt on that play. Is he in the hospital right now -- I haven't checked. I imagine in the very least he suffered a serious concussion.

 

But while it is apparent that the officials were correct in reviewing the play according to the rules as they are written -- Collinsworth made that point clear in his analysis -- the fact that the guy got hurt shouldn't have a say in whether or not they review the spot of the ball IMO.

 

To me, where they spot the ball on a play like that shouldn't be reviewable even on a potential TD just as they wouldn't review a possible holding call on a potential TD.

 

To me, it should be all about when the refs blew the whistle. And in this case, the refs said he had gotten into the end zone, which he clearly did.

 

Going back and looking for the exact moment his helmet came off doesn't change anything about the play. If anything, it inadvertently penalizes the team whose player got hurt rather than the team that committed the fineable transgression -- helmet to helmet.

 

But see according to the letter of the rule...it DOES....once the helmet comes off the play is dead...errr....finished....BAD word choice....and the second the helmet comes off its like a knee or an elbow hitting the ground....since it's a TD its also reviewed automatically....the intent of the rule conflicts with the execution....much like when a receiver ducks and gets clocked in the head the DB still gets 15 yards....


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Posted 30 November 2013 - 02:56 PM

How about those Ravens. We may actually make the playoffs!!!
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Posted 30 November 2013 - 06:53 PM

I want to know where the media outcry is for Tomlin to be fined or suspended (should be suspended) what he did was worse than Alosi and Tomlin is the freaking head coach. If Ryan pulled something like that Mike Francesa would have a stroke screaming about it.

 

Don't like the Jets chances tomorrow. Dolphins will get to Geno as the Jets blitz pickup is generally atrocious. I think we can get to Tannehill but Tannehill actually has the weapons to beat the Jets deep. Cromartie is going to be staring at the back of Wallace's jersey for much of tomorrow afternoon and Hartline will kill is underneath as always. Geno will stare his receivers down and do something stupid. 27-9 Miami.


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Posted 30 November 2013 - 09:04 PM

Totally agree with you about Tomlin. He was actually ON the field and altered the course of Jones.
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Posted 30 November 2013 - 09:07 PM

Totally agree with you about Tomlin. He was actually ON the field and altered the course of Jones.

 

We all here pretty much agree with you....I added in how potentially dangerous it is what Tomlin did too....but Jacoby Jones isn't a quarterback so the rules of safety and protection don't apply to him :P


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 04:49 AM

Oh and Bree's isnt good in cold weather. Wilson hasn't seen defeat in his home territory back into hod college days. Browner wouldnt be playing even if he wasn't suspended. They did fine last year when he was suspended. Harvin not playing sucks bad. But wilson hasn't been playing with rice and harvin for a bit. They'd be a lot worse if they had them since day one and both. I'd be surprised if rams win yeah they are playing good but map hasn't had his boys all season now there coming back. That'd great for the team so look out
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Posted 01 December 2013 - 09:10 AM

It's not the weapons on the 49ers I question....its what's between the ears of #7 I wonder about....St. Louis gave them all they could handle last year when the Niners were rolling, that game (like most) is hardly a gimmie.....


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 01:54 PM

GOOD!!!!!

 

REPORT: STEELERS, TOMLIN FACE BIG FINE, COULD LOSE DRAFT PICK OVER SIDELINE MOVE - Mike Tomlin’s blunder when he stepped onto the playing field during a kickoff return by the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night might cost the Pittsburgh Steelers big-time.

According to an ESPN report, Tomlin and the Steelers both could face big fines, and that the Steelers could lose a draft pick. ESPN reported that Tomlin and the Steelers could face six-figure fines.


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 02:07 PM

Another banner day for the Genius' D so far. 


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 02:19 PM

That one's a shocker, I thought it'd be 24-0 the other way by now.  Houston quit weeks ago, eight-game losing streak and the Pats don't generally **** around against patsies.

 

I might wind up turning on the RedZone channel during the second half of the Jet game at this rate, especially if Rex comes out with Geno for the second half.


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