Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:03 PM
From Devils Pride 26:
It's about being smart. Going to sporting events is like a rite of passage. I remember being 5-6 and hearing foul language. It's the nature of the beast. You hear things, you learn about it, and if you have good parents they'll tell you not to repeat things you hear or you'll get a spanking (if we really want to get heated, this is a good argument).
Now being a 20 something on the other side of the coin, there's a responsibility not to look like a fycking moron in the place. I always take a good look around during the game making sure there aren't kids around. When they are, you try and set an example and keep it respectful. F bombs I front of children are just classless. I'll heckle teams and players , part of that is the fun of being at the arena. But people need to use common sense. I wouldn't want to be swearing up a storm in front of CRs daughter or anything but I don't think any parent brings a child to game without expecting to hear some foul language. Morale of the story: use some fvcking common sense
This is always such a tough argument. I can't stand people who go to a game for the sole purpose of getting drunk and cursing and acting like morons. If you can't be a normal human being, stay home.... But on the other hand, the snobby, holier-than-thou attitude of the people on the other side of the argument is so over the top. It's one rung below "i'm a better person than you so I get to decide what's ok".
Devils Pride 26 has it right. You can't pretend you can stop all of the naughty words of 16000 other people. You need to understand that's part of a sporting event, however, people should also have the responsibility to know their surroundings, realize that they are in a public place, and try to act accordingly.
Having said that, I must add that heckling players, coaches, and the dirty evil cheating refs is every fan's god given right, and can be done quite creatively without having to drop f-bombs.
Pretty much agree with you two (no shock in the case of DD56, as me and him seem to be of like minds of just about everything Devil-related).
I've always said I don't expect the world to sanitize itself in my daughter's presence...when I take her to a Devils game, she will hear bad words, see drunk people (some of which will act like a$$holes), might even see fans fist-fighting. I've always taken the approach that it's not necessarily on the rest of the world to snap to attention and clean up their acts because my child is in their presence...rather, I explain to her why it's not really in her best interests to follow their leads. I can hope that people won't be letting f-bombs fly left and right when it's obvious that she can clearly hear them, but I don't ever bank on it, and like I said in another post, I go to games to watch the games, not to confront people on their behavior.
Re: the card, I'm guessing the people who wind up getting them are probably going over-the-top to get them...enough so that those around them start complaining. Obviously everyone's tolerances vary on what is too much. For me, it's someone who is cursing just for the sake of cursing and being endlessly obnoxious for the sake of being endlessly obnoxious. Some random f-bombs and other four-letter frothings don't really bother me (I curse plenty myself, though like DP26 says, I do it using common sense). The suck-swallow chant is more lame to me than anything else...not because it's foul...just because it's lame and not all that funny.
Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 05 December 2013 - 04:03 PM.
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