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#1 Blown01NJ

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 12:37 AM

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Poor SOB. He will never ever live up to that contract. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:20 AM

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Poor SOB. He will never ever live up to that contract.

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I read the posts. I feel the same way about Clowe
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:43 AM

Well read a lot posts and there are quite a bit intelligent ones who disagree and says he's been fine.
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 03:36 AM

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I read the posts. I feel the same way about Clowe

 

Now, while I reckon we will feel the same way about Clowe, let the guy play some games first. Guy has played six games two months ago. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 05:15 AM

Now, while I reckon we will feel the same way about Clowe, let the guy play some games first. Guy has played six games two months ago.


Understood but playing doesn't make the contract any better. Doesn't shorten the length or low the yearly amount.
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 05:27 AM

Understood but playing doesn't make the contract any better. Doesn't shorten the length or low the yearly amount.

 

Depends on how he plays. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 08:19 AM

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 08:46 AM

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:02 AM

Well, the expectations were absurdly high and we all know that he is a good player, especially in Deboers system but he is only good, not great. Although, I would have rather keep him over Clowe. At least his brain doesn't have the consistency of mashed potatoes.
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:12 AM

already talked about this in another thread
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:52 AM

Predictable, but poor bastard. It's not his fault Toronto's brain trust decided he was Wendell Clark despite no evidence.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

How many times have we seen this?  When will GMs learn that overpaying will not make the overpaid player perform better than what he is? 

 

I never blamed Clarkson for taking the money (that was waaaaaay more than he ever had any right to expect), but as is always the case, once the lovefest press conferences and backpage news stories end, people expect production for those dollars. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:02 AM

This is one giant whatever. I'd enjoy rivals' failures a little more if the Devils didn't have there own. After all, the Devils replacement for David Clarkson is Ryane Clowe, a player that makes a smidgen less a season, who was coming off a season with as many goals as concussions. They committed a lot of years to him too, and guess what, shockingly he has missed most of the season so far with a concussion...and when he played...he was so slow and pretty awful.

 

So while we can say we told you so Toronto, the entire league can say we told you so about Ryane Clowe.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:07 AM

This is one giant whatever. I'd enjoy rivals' failures a little more if the Devils didn't have there own. After all, the Devils replacement for David Clarkson is Ryane Clowe, a player that makes a smidgen less a season, who was coming off a season with as many goals as concussions. They committed a lot of years to him too, and guess what, shockingly he has missed most of the season so far with a concussion...and when he played...he was so slow and pretty awful.

 

So while we can say we told you so Toronto, the entire league can say we told you so about Ryane Clowe.

 

Clowe is an absolute disaster, no question, and like you point out, it's not like he didn't have a concussion history before this season.  Lou took a big gamble on that one and appears to have lost (for the moment, anyway). 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:10 AM

At this point I hope Lou uses his one remaining compliance buyout on Clowe.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:21 AM

If Clowe spends the majority of this contract on IR, it's paid by insurance, right?  So..beside the cap hit (which also gets removed if he's on LTIR I believe?) he's not really affecting anything by being injured..correct?

 

And yeah, when will GMs learn to not overpay for Devils players that excel in a system.  Holik, Gionta, Gomez, Clarkson, Parise in a few years..the list goes on.

 

Owners and GMs can (and will continue to) lock out the players all they want claiming they make too much money, but maybe the owners should stop buying into the hype machine and betting against each other every freakin offseason so these ridiculous contracts don't occur.

 

Clarkson return tour in about 3 years after he's bought out? 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:22 AM

At this point I hope Lou uses his one remaining compliance buyout on Clowe.

 

i'd still hold on to Clowe, he's not playing a lot but he can score and produce. Volchenkov or Sal on the other hand has become useless. Even without those 2 we're one of the team allowing the less shots on net. 

 

We need scoring more than anything. Slow defensive dman who can barely handle the puck seems useless to me and expandable. They are getting beaten just as much as any of our more offensive guys, at least the offensive dmen are bringing points so its somewhat compensating. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:29 AM

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But first he has to get up because he tripped over the blue line...again!

 

 

At this point I hope Lou uses his one remaining compliance buyout on Clowe.

 

Can they use it one a player signed after the new CBA went into effect, or is it only reserved for signing that occurred as part of the last CBA?

 

 

If Clowe spends the majority of this contract on IR, it's paid by insurance, right?  So..beside the cap hit (which also gets removed if he's on LTIR I believe?) he's not really affecting anything by being injured..correct?

 

And yeah, when will GMs learn to not overpay for Devils players that excel in a system.  Holik, Gionta, Gomez, Clarkson, Parise in a few years..the list goes on.

 

Owners and GMs can (and will continue to) lock out the players all they want claiming they make too much money, but maybe the owners should stop buying into the hype machine and betting against each other every freakin offseason so these ridiculous contracts don't occur.

 

Clarkson return tour in about 3 years after he's bought out? 

 

Parise is a straight up good player.  He would excel in any system.  While he is overpaid, to lump him in with players like Gomez, Holik, and Clarkson is unfair.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:34 AM

At this point I hope Lou uses his one remaining compliance buyout on Clowe.

you cannot use compliance buyouts for contracts signed after the new cba. Per the last line in this page of capgeek:

http://www.capgeek.c...do-buyouts-work

Also, the difference between clowe and clarkson is the hype that the respective fanbase and organization gave to the signing. The contracts are equally as bad but Toronto has been hyping clarkson like he is bringing then a cup single handedly.
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:37 AM

If Clowe spends the majority of this contract on IR, it's paid by insurance, right?  So..beside the cap hit (which also gets removed if he's on LTIR I believe?) he's not really affecting anything by being injured..correct?

 

And yeah, when will GMs learn to not overpay for Devils players that excel in a system.  Holik, Gionta, Gomez, Clarkson, Parise in a few years..the list goes on.

 

Owners and GMs can (and will continue to) lock out the players all they want claiming they make too much money, but maybe the owners should stop buying into the hype machine and betting against each other every freakin offseason so these ridiculous contracts don't occur.

 

Clarkson return tour in about 3 years after he's bought out? 

 

In fairness, the guys on that list really didn't perform that badly (not at first, anyway), and Parise is putting up Parise-like numbers in Minnesota (still vastly overpriced though).  Holik and Gomez actually performed at the level they should've been expected to as Rangers, but Sather is one of those idiots who thinks paying guys like superstars and bringing them to Broadway is somehow going to make them exponentially better than they really are, and the idiot Ranger fans bought into that as well.  Gionta was overpaid, but definitely not to the silly level that Holik and Gomez were, and to his credit, he did score 57 goals in his first two Canadien seasons...and is their captain to boot. 


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