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#161 DevsMan84

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:05 PM

We're not even halfway into the season yet. Standings don't mean much right now.


Tonight was game thirty something out of 82 for Christ sake! So when do you suppose they mean something? This isn't game 1 through 5.
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#162 bobilly45

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:06 PM

We're not even halfway into the season yet.  Standings don't mean much right now.

halfway will be about new yrs, give or take a few games, so we are almost 1/2 way.  Standing do start to matter, esp with our division with alot of teams trying to get third.

 

I think the last full season the teams that were in the playoff spots in the stadings by thanksgiving, were the teams that actually made the playoffs.  I think doc said this in one of his games 


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:09 PM

So?? As i said he got tougher starts with vancouver.

 

Gotta build his confidence back up and give him some "gimmes" so to speak. If a fighter loses a title fight, he doesn't go right back out against top-level competition, you build him back up. That's what Cory needs right now to get into a groove. Or ya know, we could just ruin him totally. Also, to the people saying he gave up bad goals *coughMartyisth3b3stcough* (also, no clear bias there), which ones are you even talking about? The breakaway? The top shelf wrister while screened? Leddy walking in with no one in the same area code? Or the one that deflected off of his defenseman? 

 

Also, man, are people really this upset about a loss to the defending champs? If they would've won this I would've been really surprised and happy, but I had no expectations of that happening. What are the actual expectations around here that we should beat the Hawks when we get 12 shots and what are you people drinking/smoking and can I have some?


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:09 PM

The team is much better now than it was back when we played Vancouver.


 

Which 3 were sh!t?

 

And what about Marty?  He gave up 4 on 22 shots last game.  We wouldn't have had to go to OT had he not played like crap against Washingotn.

 

Bottom Line: Marty gets better offensive support, run with Marty.

In addition I don't get upset when Marty gives up a bad goal. He's old and tired and he's always given up bad goals. Cory? I don't know about that guy.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:11 PM

Bottom Line: Marty gets better offensive support, run with Marty.

 

That's like saying guys hit better for a certain pitcher in baseball. It just doesn't make any sense.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:11 PM

Play better?  He's been a freaking trainwreck this month.  Tri keeps pointing out how he gets the tougher starts, maybe that isn't such a good thing at this point considering he has 4 wins in 17 games.  He looked totally shot confidence-wise tonight.


They need to give him a step down in weight class for a while.

I wouldn't blame Schneider for having his confidence shot. Team averages around 2.85 goals per game for Brodeur and 1.64 goals per game for him. Not playing regularly, being in another goalie battle/controversy, must be a nightmare situation for him.

 

A lot of people are getting on this guy but quickly forget that in 108 regular season + playoff games with Vancouver he had a 2.23 GAA and .927 SV%.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:12 PM

cory's save % vs the hawks was by far and away better than marty's sv% vs the caps


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:12 PM

We're not even halfway into the season yet.  Standings don't mean much right now.

 

They mean plenty if you're buried ten points out at the halfway point behind multiple teams.  The only reason we're not buried already is because most of this conference has stunk so far.  But you can't keep banking on EVERYONE aside from the Pens and Bruins stinking forever.

 

The team is much better now than it was back when we played Vancouver.

 

I was referring to Vancouver, when Schnieder was on the Canucks cause someone brought up how he played 'better' teams there more frequently (which is impossible to tell, we didn't follow them enough to know what kind of distribution they had of games played).


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:12 PM

Tonight was game thirty something out of 82 for Christ sake! So when do you suppose they mean something? This isn't game 1 through 5.

 

We've played 38 games.  Wait until January to truly worry about the standings.  We need Schneider in order to make the playoffs.  We need him at the top of his game, and he won't get there unless he plays.

 

halfway will be about new yrs, give or take a few games, so we are almost 1/2 way.  Standing do start to matter, esp with our division with alot of teams trying to get third.

 

The last 30 games is when you really start watching the standings.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:13 PM

Tonight was game thirty something out of 82 for Christ sake! So when do you suppose they mean something? This isn't game 1 through 5.

They'll be at the halfway point on New Year's Eve, in fact.  It's getting late early.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:20 PM

Cory was lights out earlier in the season and we pissed it away. Think of highway robbery in la. Ever since he's been yanked around and played ridiculously inconsistently
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:20 PM

Cory stunk the forwards stunk the defensemen stunk deboer stunk the breakout stunk everything stunk. Scary bad tonight
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:21 PM

Bottom Line: Marty gets better offensive support, run with Marty.

In addition I don't get upset when Marty gives up a bad goal. He's old and tired and he's always given up bad goals. Cory? I don't know about that guy.

 

Which is why the younger and better goalie needs to be the guy who gets the net on most nights.

 

They mean plenty if you're buried ten points out at the halfway point behind multiple teams.  The only reason we're not buried already is because most of this conference has stunk so far.  But you can't keep banking on EVERYONE aside from the Pens and Bruins stinking forever.

 

Yes, but there's so much left in the season to where anybody can fall out or get back into the playoff race.  You also can't bank on Pittsburgh and Boston staying this good forever.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:21 PM

Bottom Line: Marty gets better offensive support, run with Marty.
In addition I don't get upset when Marty gives up a bad goal. He's old and tired and he's always given up bad goals. Cory? I don't know about that guy.


This exact mentality is what's going to doom this team, if PDB thinks like this.

Cory needs 4-5 consecutive starts. He needs to get on a roll. Playing one game every week and a half is no way to build confidence.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:22 PM

which game do you think will be easier for marty to get a win, friday or saturday?


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:24 PM

which game do you think will be easier for cory not to lose, friday or saturday?

 

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:24 PM

This exact mentality is what's going to doom this team, if PDB thinks like this.

Cory needs 4-5 consecutive starts. He needs to get on a roll. Playing one game every week and a half is no way to build confidence.

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This!  I couldn't agree more.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:27 PM

They'll be at the halfway point on New Year's Eve, in fact. It's getting late early.


Apparently it looks like I shouldn't worry until sometime until the middle to late January.
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:28 PM

This!  I couldn't agree more.

 

 

Cory played a backup role in Vancouver, he should be used to this, but hey what do I know? Start the guy who hasn't done much of anything since coming here based on the speculation that 4 or 5 starts in a row, without regard to outcome, should help in some way.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:28 PM

This! I couldn't agree more.


How do you justify giving Schneider 5 starts in a row? You keep saying "look at that LA game!!", but are you really going to tel me in his last few starts he's a bonifide #1 goalie? I don't care how poorly New Jersey played, 5 goals is 5 goals is 5 goals is 5 goals. When Marty let's them in, we all say "turn to Schneider next game". When Corey does, why can't we turn to Marty?
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