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#141 Triumph

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:55 PM

That's what's weird about DeBoer. He'll change the line-up after a win but will stick with the same guys in the shootout. I don't understand why he'll be so stubborn with some things and not with others.

 

There have been 9 different guys to take the shootout.  I don't really understand why you think he is using the same guys.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 03:06 PM

There have been 9 different guys to take the shootout.  I don't really understand why you think he is using the same guys.

 

Elias and Clowe keep getting shots and have been unsuccessful all season. Henrique can't even put it on net. Boucher wasn't in the next shootout after scoring our only shootout goal of the season. I definitely exaggerated and it feels like it's been the same few guys when it really hasn't  but man, if NOTHING has worked, next in line. Half the time it feels like they're not even getting shots off for an entire shootout. After losing 9 straight how can you be against trying anything to break the mentality? Maybe the guys who haven't tried won't have the pressure or losing mindset. It can't possibly hurt.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 08:47 PM

Anyone still doesn't think this is mental?  I honestly think if we had 100 attempts we may score on one more at this rate.


And Cory's Yann Danis-type bad in the skills competition too.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:35 PM

Anyone still doesn't think this is mental?  I honestly think if we had 100 attempts we may score on one more at this rate.


And Cory's Yann Danis-type bad in the skills competition too.

 

it's 100% mental. This is the clutch/choke dynamic playing out in front of us. The statisticians says something like this will even out in time...well it should've happened months ago. This shootout streak how now reached lottery-type odds of impossibility

 

When the Devils are trying to score in the shootout...all they think about is past results...oh my god I have to score here we're 1-300 etc. Goalies thinking the same thing

 

They all need psychiatric counseling. That's the only way to beat this type of situational anxiety


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:40 PM

Andrei Loktionov unsuccessful attempt versus Ben Bishop

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Steve Sullivan unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Reid Boucher successful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Damian Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

 

1-33 in shootout attempts dating back to last seaseon. 0-14 shootout streak (new NHL record) dating back to last season


The Devils now need just 6 more misses to tie their NHL record for consecutive shootout attempts missed 20, which they just set (they started on the record after the Boucher goal by missing the next 14 in a row)


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:07 PM

it's 100% mental. This is the clutch/choke dynamic playing out in front of us. The statisticians says something like this will even out in time...well it should've happened months ago. This shootout streak how now reached lottery-type odds of impossibility

 

When the Devils are trying to score in the shootout...all they think about is past results...oh my god I have to score here we're 1-300 etc. Goalies thinking the same thing

 

They all need psychiatric counseling. That's the only way to beat this type of situational anxiety

 

Which is why I wanted them badly to go with Ruutu at SOME point in the last two, he's not bogged down by the team-wide failure and has a decent career record anyway.  Pete seems confused and equates actual hockey play with being worthy to be tabbed in the shootout, many times the best hockey players aren't the best shootout players.  Hell, even a guy like Zidlicky has experience and hasn't been personally part of any of the failures yet.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:14 PM

Which is why I wanted them badly to go with Ruutu at SOME point in the last two, he's not bogged down by the team-wide failure and has a decent career record anyway.  Pete seems confused and equates actual hockey play with being worthy to be tabbed in the shootout, many times the best hockey players aren't the best shootout players.  Hell, even a guy like Zidlicky has experience and hasn't been personally part of any of the failures yet.

 

Exactly, but at this point I think Pete is so dim that I'm not even upset at him not figuring this out. What do you expect from such a moron coach? Look at the way he's mismanaged the goaltending circus


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:23 PM

Exactly, but at this point I think Pete is so dim that I'm not even upset at him not figuring this out. What do you expect from such a moron coach? Look at the way he's mismanaged the goaltending circus

 

 

I think it is time for Pete to be shown the door....

 

I would have liked to see 3 completely random guys tonight in the shootout....Harrold, Bernier and Zubrus woulda been fine with me.  ANYTHING FOR A CHANGE!!  The regulars have not got it done all season, so any 3 guys would have been a better selection tonight.

 

Thanks for the 2012 run Pete...your surely a dead man walking


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:58 AM

Asking for random players is idiotic.  Would you do that normally?  'Well, we gave up 10 goals the last two games, so let's let our 4th line be our 1st line and vice versa today, because we have to do ANYTHING for a change!'

 

They've tried 8 guys.  They have to stop trying Henrique obviously, and probably Elias too, but hey.

 

Lottery odds of impossibility - people win the lottery.  Crazy streaks happen across sports.  This is one of them.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:11 PM

Asking for random players is idiotic.  Would you do that normally?  'Well, we gave up 10 goals the last two games, so let's let our 4th line be our 1st line and vice versa today, because we have to do ANYTHING for a change!'

 

They've tried 8 guys.  They have to stop trying Henrique obviously, and probably Elias too, but hey.

 

Lottery odds of impossibility - people win the lottery.  Crazy streaks happen across sports.  This is one of them.

 

It is one of them, but they aren't doing themselves any favours. When you go in that slowly, you better have some real nice moves or exceptional hands. Guys like Parise and Kozlov could pull off some impressive stuff. Elias and Henrique can not.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 06:08 PM

Pretty sure the hockey gods are just against us at this point - Rod Pelley scored a shootout goal to win a game today.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:24 PM

It amazes me how a smart player like Elias cannot make the simple adjustment of keeping the puck closer to him on his one move so he can elevate it at least 2 feet. He would have scored on each one with that adjustment, so frustrating. 


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 03:36 AM

When they get to the shootout... I think, that they think they're done, like we are with the season. The mentality isn't there.

It amazes me how a smart player like Elias cannot make the simple adjustment of keeping the puck closer to him on his one move so he can elevate it at least 2 feet. He would have scored on each one with that adjustment, so frustrating.


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 07:47 AM

Not even sure what to say at this point, Elais & Henrique are too good to miss that many, but they have... IMHO another failure by LL, this team is so lack in the skills dept they cannot even score on a shoot out... again, LL chose the players....
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:56 AM

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:22 AM

 

lol. Is this Karma for "Did Gomez Score?"


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:43 PM

Andrei Loktionov unsuccessful attempt versus Ben Bishop

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Steve Sullivan unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Reid Boucher successful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Damian Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

Shootout GOAL scored by Jacob Josefson on Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Damien Brunner saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Marek Zidlicky saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout GOAL scored by Jaromir Jagr on Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Travis Zajac MISSES

Shootout attempt by Tuomo Ruutu saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Patrik Elias saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Adam Henrique MISSES

Shootout attempt by Mike Sislo saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Travis Zajac MISSES Wide of Net

Shootout attempt by Adam Larsson saved by Robin Lehner

Shootout attempt by Jaromir Jagr saved by Robin Lehner

Shootout attempt by Dainus Zubrus MISSES wide of the net

 

3-48. An NHL team has scored 3 goals on 48 shootout attempts vs mostly backup goalies

 

a sledge hockey team, literally...could do better. If you give a sledge hockey player 48 attempts I am positive he could score 4 goals against these guys

 

this is just beyond comprehensible. And some people though it would "even out!" ha.

 

Elias now 0-10, Zajac 0-8.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 07:34 AM

Interesting... We are historically still among the best in the shootout at 56-48 (http://goo.gl/Mj2Tou). I guess things are evening out. Just not in the way we all would like.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:20 PM

Andrei Loktionov unsuccessful attempt versus Ben Bishop

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Mathieu Garon

Steve Sullivan unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Ryan Miller

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Evgeni Nabokov

Damien Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jason LaBarbera

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Roberto Luongo

Michael Ryder unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Reid Boucher successful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Travis Zajac unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Peter Budaj

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Curtis McElhinney

Jaromir Jagr unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Ryan Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Jonathan Bernier

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Semyon Varlamov

Damian Brunner unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Ryane Clowe unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Greiss

Adam Henrique unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

Patrik Elias unsuccessful attempt versus Nilsson

Shootout GOAL scored by Jacob Josefson on Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Damien Brunner saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Marek Zidlicky saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout GOAL scored by Jaromir Jagr on Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Travis Zajac MISSES

Shootout attempt by Tuomo Ruutu saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Patrik Elias saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Adam Henrique MISSES

Shootout attempt by Mike Sislo saved by Nathan Lieuwen

Shootout attempt by Travis Zajac MISSES Wide of Net

Shootout attempt by Adam Larsson saved by Robin Lehner

Shootout attempt by Jaromir Jagr saved by Robin Lehner

Shootout attempt by Dainus Zubrus MISSES wide of the net

Shootout attempt by Damian Brunner SCORES on Nilsson

Shootout attempt by Jaromir Jagr MISSES wide of the net

 

And it continues to define explanation. 0-17 in shootouts. At least they got a goal today. Of course we didn't even get 3 tries at it because Blowdeur was busy humiliating himself on the other end

 

BUT BUT CORSIWICK SAID IT WOULD EVEN OUT

 

still waiting. the odds of this happening are like 1 in 6000

 

4 for 50 now since winning that shootout last March against philly

 

4 goals in 50 shootout attempts. An NHL team did this.


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