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#21 RizzMB30

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:38 PM

He's slow and old. Salvador in for volch, sure no arguments there. But are you serious? Zids and Gelinas bring something that makes up for there defensive flaws, overall I'd rather have either one of them over him any day. Merrill isn't as physical but he's pretty good in his own end, barring some rookie mistakes.

 

I don't care what Salvador did 2 years ago, he's not the same player he was, he is 2 years older and it shows. I imagine you are a hard core proponent of letting Marty split/get more starts than Cory.

 

That being said I like him ALOT more than I like Volchenkov, but they both are way to slow. And this team did just fine with him not in the locker room for the majority of the year, I don't think he brings anything to the Locker room that we don't have without him. The guys are tough, are they never give up.  

I really don't want Merrill sent down, I think he's getting more than enough ice time, to the point where if its between learning up here or down there, I'd prefer it be up here. But you are right Salvador is not going to get benched and he's not going to be traded, so looks like Fayne needs to be moved. Fayne + teddy, lou should work some magic and hose someone.

I don't think that Mark Fayne is a superstar by any means, but I'd rather move Zidlicky before moving Mark Fayne.  I don't think Mark Fayne would merit a lot of interest.


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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:24 PM

I don't think that Mark Fayne is a superstar by any means, but I'd rather move Zidlicky before moving Mark Fayne.  I don't think Mark Fayne would merit a lot of interest.

 

Can we even move zidlicky? I think he has a ntc, and I think he is really good friends with patty and jagr, and I don't wanna do anything that might upset jags.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 09:39 AM

I've already made my case against zidlicky elsewhere, so I won't get into it again. I agree to an extent that volchenkov's presence on the roster adds fuel to the sal hate, but I stand by my opinion that Salvador is a better defenseman that zidlicky Merrill and Gelinas right now. I want Salvador out there on the pk and in the final minute of a game we're winning before I see zidlicky or gelinas looking like a chicken with their head cut off in their own zone.

I said the other day that I would convert zidlicky to wing and use him sort of like we used harrold a few years back, hopefully that's what happens because I recognize zid has offensive talent but he is just terrible defensively and takes a ridiculous amount of penalties.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 09:49 AM

Anyone who wants to get rid of Zidlicky is crazy... We don't have anyone as offensively talented on D as Zid... I'd elect throwing him into a RW role on the 3rd or 2nd line before I consider trading him.


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#25 Devilsfan118

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:07 AM

I don't see PDB asking a veteran like Zid to play forward - and I also don't see him scratching Salvador and/or Volchenkov when they're both healthy.

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that the team got off to an awful start with them both in the lineup.  

 

Sure, Salvador might be a little better than Merril, but Merril hasn't looked completely out of place up here.  He's had some rookie mistakes, but..he's gaining valuable experience.  Experience that would be wasted on an old, slow defenseman like Salvador.  I don't care how much he seems to be liked in the locker room either..there's enough veteran leadership in that locker room without him.

 

The only reason Salvador is even still in discussion is because of that damn 'C' on his chest that I wish he was never given.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:06 AM

Ugh the prospect of both of the slugs in the line up is very disconcerting.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 09:46 AM

Anyone who wants to get rid of Zidlicky is crazy... We don't have anyone as offensively talented on D as Zid... I'd elect throwing him into a RW role on the 3rd or 2nd line before I consider trading him.

 

Agree.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 09:49 AM

Because of the condensed Olympic schedle I would imaging PDB will be rotating during back-to-back games with all the D men

 

It's actually a pretty decent position to be in.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 11:54 AM

Agree.

id like to see how zid would fit in up front.. there was a little chatter the other day about possibly putting gelinas up front... id prefer to see zid try out that role before gel... its already like zid sometimes forgets that hes a Dman to begin with driving right up to the net etc. he brings a lot to the table offensively and we need all of that we can get on this team.
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